Wokingham, Tuesday 20th May 2008
Wokingham, Tuesday 20th May 2008
I might need to be at a conference in London on Thursday 22nd May 2008. Might there be interest in a tasting about then? (Though, for obvious reasons, not on Wednesday 21st May.)
Given my general non-impressedness with Cockburn, this wouldn’t have to be that vertical.
Edit: on 3rd April title changed from “Penultimate week of May 2008† to “Wokingham, Tuesday 20th May 2008†.
Given my general non-impressedness with Cockburn, this wouldn’t have to be that vertical.
Edit: on 3rd April title changed from “Penultimate week of May 2008† to “Wokingham, Tuesday 20th May 2008†.
Last edited by jdaw1 on 22:50 Thu 03 Apr 2008, edited 2 times in total.
my arrangements could … be fitted around others’ plans
As yet, all I know is that I might need to be at that conference on 22nd May. So, if I do need to be there, then my arrangements could, to some limited extent, be fitted around others’ plans.
Re: Penultimate week of May 2008
OK, I have just undertaken to be at the conference, so the “might† can be deleted.jdaw1 wrote:I might need to be at a conference in London on Thursday 22nd May 2008. Might there be interest in a tasting about then? (Though, for obvious reasons, not on Wednesday 21st May.)
OK. I'm in.
Perhaps we need an interesting theme to attract others. Here are some suggestions:
Perhaps we need an interesting theme to attract others. Here are some suggestions:
- Bring a bottle of port wrapped in silver foil
- Single's Night (only SQVP's allowed)
- 1960 Horizontal
- 1980 Horizontal
- The G-Plan (Graham's Vertical)
- Rose Night
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
1980 horizontal
A 1980 horizontal would be of great interest. Possible contributions from me include:I’m willing to facilitate others adopting some of these.
Graham’s vertical
A Graham’s vertical would be of even greater interest. Possible contributions from me include:
- Graham’s 1927 (my only bottle, costing £268·20);
- Graham’s 1945 (my only bottle, part of a mixed lot, and having similar cost);
- Graham’s 1963 (my only bottle);
- Graham’s 1977 (I have too much);
- Graham’s 1980 (I have 23 bottles remaining);
- Graham’s 1985 (a staple of my diet).
I like the idea of all of these, though the date may be tricky for me. I don't think I can make any port contribution, but could presumably find a bribable donor.
J, I like the fact that you have 23 bottles of G80, but too much G77. Is 'too much' more than 23 bottles, or is there a tacit consideration of quality within your assessment?
Sometime we should try a blind tasting. Put the Grahams in year order, or match the 80's against the shippers available. It is an extra logistical challenge, but could be done.
J, I like the fact that you have 23 bottles of G80, but too much G77. Is 'too much' more than 23 bottles, or is there a tacit consideration of quality within your assessment?
Sometime we should try a blind tasting. Put the Grahams in year order, or match the 80's against the shippers available. It is an extra logistical challenge, but could be done.
A man who likes vintage ports, and we're not talking Carthage
G77 not a favourite
Yes.Ghandih wrote:or is there a tacit consideration of quality within your assessment?
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I've just realised that I haven't replied to this post yet, so I am now remedying my oversight.
I like some of the themes that Derek has suggested. I've noticed that there seems to be a macro-theme developing this year.
On Feb 2 there was a 1963 horizontal
On Jan 28 there was a 1966 horizontal
On Feb 14 there was a 1970 horizontal
On Mar 29 there is planned a 1977 horizontal
If we continue this macro theme then a good theme for the end of May might be the 1980 horizontal (I have Fonseca and Smith Woodhouse).
That said, I like all of the other suggested themes. I'm a little light on Grahams, but could probably find a vintage to offer. I very much like the idea of a "silver foil" tasting where I can choose an interesting bottle and offer it blind. A singles night would be easy for me - guess which Quinta's wine Mr Vesuvio would bring along?
Perhaps we should leave the final choice of theme to Julian, since he is providing the excuse for the tasting. If we leave it open to democracy, I'll vote for the 1980 horizontal since I think 1980 is a significantly overlooked vintage.
Alex
I like some of the themes that Derek has suggested. I've noticed that there seems to be a macro-theme developing this year.
On Feb 2 there was a 1963 horizontal
On Jan 28 there was a 1966 horizontal
On Feb 14 there was a 1970 horizontal
On Mar 29 there is planned a 1977 horizontal
If we continue this macro theme then a good theme for the end of May might be the 1980 horizontal (I have Fonseca and Smith Woodhouse).
That said, I like all of the other suggested themes. I'm a little light on Grahams, but could probably find a vintage to offer. I very much like the idea of a "silver foil" tasting where I can choose an interesting bottle and offer it blind. A singles night would be easy for me - guess which Quinta's wine Mr Vesuvio would bring along?
Perhaps we should leave the final choice of theme to Julian, since he is providing the excuse for the tasting. If we leave it open to democracy, I'll vote for the 1980 horizontal since I think 1980 is a significantly overlooked vintage.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
1980 horizontal
Dictatorship or democracy: I could mention Arrow’s Theorem. Anyway, my preference, already stated, is one of 1980 horizontal or Graham’s vertical. Given Alex’s vote it seems that there might be a consensus around a 1980 horizontal. What 1980s do we have?AHB wrote:Perhaps we should leave the final choice of theme to Julian, since he is providing the excuse for the tasting. If we leave it open to democracy, I'll vote for the 1980 horizontal since I think 1980 is a significantly overlooked vintage.
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Re: 1980 horizontal
Warre, heeurrghh, what is it good for? A 1980 horizontal, that's what.jdaw1 wrote:Dictatorship or democracy: I could mention Arrow’s Theorem. Anyway, my preference, already stated, is one of 1980 horizontal or Graham’s vertical. Given Alex’s vote it seems that there might be a consensus around a 1980 horizontal. What 1980s do we have?AHB wrote:Perhaps we should leave the final choice of theme to Julian, since he is providing the excuse for the tasting. If we leave it open to democracy, I'll vote for the 1980 horizontal since I think 1980 is a significantly overlooked vintage.
Port is basically a red drink
Re: 1980 horizontal
Very good.KillerB wrote:Warre, heeurrghh, what is it good for? A 1980 horizontal, that's what.
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Re: 1980 horizontal
I've got another, just as good:jdaw1 wrote:Very good.KillerB wrote:Warre, heeurrghh, what is it good for? A 1980 horizontal, that's what.
Fonseca, heeurrghh, what is it good for? A 1980 horizontal, that's what.
Port is basically a red drink
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I'm happy to take the lead on organising the offline for the moment, but may not be able to be there in person as I have some problems with the dates - my other half is away on a residential course during the week so I am on child-watch duties Monday to Friday. Drinking port during the weekends of May 17/18 or of May 24/25/26 might work for me, subject to negotiations with the wife.
Do either of these weekends work for others?
Alex
Do either of these weekends work for others?
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
A weekend might be doable for me with enough notice to sort out other commitments.
Unfortunately, I only have one bottle of 1980 Vintage Port in my cellar. Fortunately, it's a Quinta do Noval Nacional which I am happy to add to the line-up.
If we are doing this at the weekend I would prefer not to do it in London but happy to go with the majority.
Derek
Unfortunately, I only have one bottle of 1980 Vintage Port in my cellar. Fortunately, it's a Quinta do Noval Nacional which I am happy to add to the line-up.
If we are doing this at the weekend I would prefer not to do it in London but happy to go with the majority.
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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There was also a 1985 Horizontal in JanuaryAHB wrote:On Feb 2 there was a 1963 horizontal
On Jan 28 there was a 1966 horizontal
On Feb 14 there was a 1970 horizontal
On Mar 29 there is planned a 1977 horizontal
There is an urgent need to organise a Horizontal tasting in April
1960 anyone?
Derek
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If we do this on a weekend, I would like to be able to dedicate only a single day to drinking port so that I can spend the other day working on the house or garden.
Because of its rail services, an afternoon in London would work well for me but then so would a Saturday afternoon in Birmingham (2 hour journey, last direct train home leaves New Street at 9pm). Manchester on a Saturday afternoon would be on the absolute boundary of the possible as it is a 4 hour train journey from home with my earliest arrival time at Piccadilly being 10am and my latest departure time being 5:20pm. Believe it or not - this one wouldn't have to be in the South East as far as I'm concerned! I'm open to suggestions as to other possible venues for tastings provided they are reasonably accessible by train for a day trip in and out and also convenient for Julian and others.
Alex
Because of its rail services, an afternoon in London would work well for me but then so would a Saturday afternoon in Birmingham (2 hour journey, last direct train home leaves New Street at 9pm). Manchester on a Saturday afternoon would be on the absolute boundary of the possible as it is a 4 hour train journey from home with my earliest arrival time at Piccadilly being 10am and my latest departure time being 5:20pm. Believe it or not - this one wouldn't have to be in the South East as far as I'm concerned! I'm open to suggestions as to other possible venues for tastings provided they are reasonably accessible by train for a day trip in and out and also convenient for Julian and others.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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AgreedDerek T. wrote:I think we need to wait and see what Julian's thoughts are on this as he may not be planning to be here on the weekends or may already have other plans.
Derek
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.