I have been trying to stick with the parenting idea of ignoring the bad behaviour and rewarding the good behaviour but this was more in the nature of a cri de coeur.djewesbury wrote:I am entirely in agreement but holding my fire as I am guilty of using a "-1" this morning. You attack, Owen, and I'll hold the rear (please missus). Julian will have descended entirely into text speak by the end of the week.
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It's probably one of those special fruit-flavoured-manufacturer-device-only things, which shows up as a special icon with a man doing a dance on a lilo, but only on those devices... (like the 1,2,3,4 in circles recently which just showed as square boxes everywhere else).LGTrotter wrote:Ghastly, just ghastly...jdaw1 wrote: 1?@aT.
Nothing wrong with +1 or -1.
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Are abbreviations no longer allowed? Has the meaning of a semi-colon changed?LGTrotter wrote:While no crime has been committed I could not stop an involuntary shudder when I read the following;Ghastly, just ghastly...jdaw1 wrote: 1?@aT.
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Good fight back. The best defence is offence.jdaw1 wrote:Are abbreviations no longer allowed? Has the meaning of a semi-colon changed?LGTrotter wrote:While no crime has been committed I could not stop an involuntary shudder when I read the following;Ghastly, just ghastly...jdaw1 wrote: 1?@aT.
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Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Then:
But it would be so disheartening to believe that the accuracy of the first was a fluke. Maybe he meant the theoretical gap as a ratio — even though untastable and unmeasurable in the real world. Maybe.
Yes. If the rate of reaction is proportional to the remaining reactants, the behaviour will be approximately exponential, whether absolute for either bottle size, or as a ratio. I have taught him to write, and also taught him some basic continuous mathematics. Top teaching.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86764#p86764]Here[/url] DRT wrote:If we take 750ml bottle maturity as a baseline I think 375ml bottle maturity almost exactly follows an exponential curve.
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But if the behaviour is exponential, both quantities of both reactants will tend to zero, a narrowing of the gap, and so inconsistent with this statement.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86854#p86854]Here[/url] DRT wrote:I think the gap will widen inconsistently more rapidly with age, which is why I correctly described it as almost exactly exponentially.
But it would be so disheartening to believe that the accuracy of the first was a fluke. Maybe he meant the theoretical gap as a ratio — even though untastable and unmeasurable in the real world. Maybe.
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Bring back the birch.jdaw1 wrote:Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Yes. If the rate of reaction is proportional to the remaining reactants, the behaviour will be approximately exponential, whether absolute for either bottle size, or as a ratio. I have taught him to write, and also taught him some basic continuous mathematics. Top teaching.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86764#p86764]Here[/url] DRT wrote:If we take 750ml bottle maturity as a baseline I think 375ml bottle maturity almost exactly follows an exponential curve.
Then:But if the behaviour is exponential, both quantities of both reactants will tend to zero, a narrowing of the gap, and so inconsistent with this statement.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86854#p86854]Here[/url] DRT wrote:I think the gap will widen inconsistently more rapidly with age, which is why I correctly described it as almost exactly exponentially.
But it would be so disheartening to believe that the accuracy of the first was a fluke. Maybe he meant the theoretical gap as a ratio — even though untastable and unmeasurable in the real world. Maybe.
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Not necessarily; there could still be victory for DRT...jdaw1 wrote:Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
(noting, but otherwise ignoring the implicit acceptance of "almost exactly")jdaw1 wrote:Yes. If the rate of reaction is proportional to the remaining reactants, the behaviour will be approximately exponential, whether absolute for either bottle size, or as a ratio. I have taught him to write, and also taught him some basic continuous mathematics. Top teaching.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86764#p86764]Here[/url] DRT wrote:If we take 750ml bottle maturity as a baseline I think 375ml bottle maturity almost exactly follows an exponential curve.
True, but only for a continuous system; for a discrete system some inconsistency would become apparent once low volumes of the reactant are reached if the period for random reaction comes similar to the measurement period. For example, consider the energy output of a large volume of radioactive material. Initially this will be high, and decay exponentially; however once the number of amount of radioactive material becomes very small, the random nature of particle decay becomes visible because there are no longer sufficient particles to create an statistically valid result within the observation period. The same mechanism could occur in the case under discussion. Additionally, while the exchange of air through the cork may be very small, if it can be assumed to be non-zero then while the additional particles capable of reaction entering the bottle could be irrelevantly small initially, but come to dominate the late effect once almost all of the reactant particles in the original air volume have reacted. Does this return victory to DRT?jdaw1 wrote:Then:But if the behaviour is exponential, both quantities of both reactants will tend to zero, a narrowing of the gap, and so inconsistent with this statement.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86854#p86854]Here[/url] DRT wrote:I think the gap will widen inconsistently more rapidly with age, which is why I correctly described it as almost exactly exponentially.
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Phil, I don't think the previous post should be in Meaningless Drivel; or at least, I think you should quote it in the Maturity thread too.
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PhilW wrote:The same mechanism could occur in the case under discussion. Additionally, while the exchange of air through the cork may be very small, if it can be assumed to be non-zero then while the additional particles capable of reaction entering the bottle could be irrelevantly small initially, but come to dominate the late effect once almost all of the reactant particles in the original air volume have reacted. Does this return victory to DRT?
Maybe, in this unmeasurable sense, it could be argued more than believed.jdaw1 wrote:— even though untastable and unmeasurable in the real world. Maybe.
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Not sure if this is a running joke that i've missed the point of!!LGTrotter wrote:the 77s with a reputation for problems are I think Dow, Nierpoort, Taylor
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No, just my usual inability to spell, punctuate, round up all the bits of a sentence and make them head in the right direction.RAYC wrote:Not sure if this is a running joke that i've missed the point of!!LGTrotter wrote:the 77s with a reputation for problems are I think Dow, Nierpoort, Taylor
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DRT wrote:You see, German white wine can be very useful to have lying around, especially if you accidentally run over your neighbours pet rabbit
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{sackcloth and rabbit's droppings}djewesbury wrote:DRT wrote:You see, German white wine can be very useful to have lying around, especially if you accidentally run over your neighbours pet rabbit
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Appropriate. Apparently you can eat them. Well, rabbits can.
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Christie Manson & Woods, on 21 November 1894:
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No gentlemen in Warwickshire have been disturbed in 30 years. Interesting.
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"farthest", surely?djewesbury wrote:Go to the Graham's Lodge, it's the furthest away from the bridge
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Are you sure, Derek?
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I think you'll find they're the same thing.
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I think you will find they are not.djewesbury wrote:I think you'll find they're the same thing.
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I will only permit citations from Fowler's. You could have written that web page. That's why it took you so long to post here. You were making that web page. Anyway get over to one quiz at a time and stop lounging about here like a corner boy.
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Although the same website does point out:DRT wrote:I think you will find they are not.djewesbury wrote:I think you'll find they're the same thing.
If talking about actual distance, both “farther” and “furthest” may be used. But for more non-physical or abstract usage, “furthest” is the only option.