Wimbledon Doty: 1966 Horitzontal - Bunghole, June 27th - 7pm

[RAYC]

I have spoken to the Bunghole. Unfortunately they have a function for 50-70 people in the main room, which means we will be required to eat in the private room alongside our ports.

As far as i am aware based on latest posts and PMs, we have 11 current attendees:

CSD
AHB
jdaw1
DRT
RAYC
PhilW
djewesbury
WS1
JohninNYC
THRA
benread

This seems like a tight squeeze, but not completely unmanageable.

Bunghole are also sending the menu which i will post when received: pre-ordering of main-courses would be appreciated by them.

[jdaw1]

No starter it’s my diet day. Steak burger (rare) and chips, please.

Edit:

- Handmade steak burger made from 100% steak aged for a minimum of 21 days, served with fries and relish.

Rare please.

[PhilW]

No starter it’s my diet day.

Is this an annual event?

[RAYC]

Bunghole are also sending the menu which i will post when received: pre-ordering of main-courses would be appreciated by them.

From the Grill:
Traditionally-matured, grass-fed beef. All served with fries and a grilled tomato. All our beef is sourced and hand selected from cattle that are naturally reared on traditional farms. Our beef is then matured for a minimum of 21 days to ensure maximum tenderness and flavour.
- Sirloin steak 220g £22.75
- Bone-in rib 350g £25.50
- Chateaubriand exquisitely tender fillet head to share. 500g £59.95 serves two
- Fillet steak the classic lean steak, a milder flavour with a succulent tenderness all of its own. Aged for 21 days. 220g £24.75
- Béarnaise or peppercorn sauce £1.95
- Handmade steak burger made from 100% steak aged for a minimum of 21 days, served with fries and relish.
Tell us how you would like it cooked.

Other mains:
- Fish cakes with creamed spinach £12.50
- Bangers and mash, Cumberland sausages served with traditional mashed potatoes and onion gravy £10.95
- Calves liver and bacon with mustard onions and mash £15.25
- Megrim sole with chicory, leeks and cockles £13.50
- Aubergine and red lentil moussaka with feta, artichoke and basil vinaigrette £13.95
- Spiced crab linguine £10.75

Answers by email (not PM) or in thread please.

[djewesbury]

Bone in rib with béarnaise and fries please. Blue.

[jdaw1]

Today Chris has his monthly tasting, so is unlikely to reply until tomorrow.

[jdaw1]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• +Dow, courtesy of PW & RAYC.

 

[benread]

benread - t.b.c.


Bunghole are also sending the menu which i will post when received: pre-ordering of main-courses would be appreciated by them.

Rob,

Consider me more 'c' than 'tbc'. I have sent you an email via TPF.

Ben

[jdaw1]

On whose good printer should the placemats be printed? There is no complex clipping, so printing should be swift.

[JohninNYC]

- Bone-in rib 350g please. No Bearnaise sauce.
Thanks.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Sirloin, medium rare with bearnaise sauce please

[DRT]

Bone-in-rib (medium rare) with fries please.

[RAYC]

Ni66 arrived today - nice looking bottle (bottling date is 69: 3yr post-harvest) - so time for a decision.

Probably best way to determine is for those who want to open it to state the minimum number of other people that they'd consider sharing the cost with (EUR245 for bottle + EUR 35 express shipping). Can happily be saved for another tasting if there is insufficient desire to open next week.

[RAYC]

Consider me more 'c' than 'tbc'. I have sent you an email via TPF.

Doty is organising - i was just doing a round up!

No message received so far.

[djewesbury]

Ni66 arrived today - nice looking bottle (bottling date is 69: 3yr post-harvest) - so time for a decision.

Probably best way to determine is for those who want to open it to state the minimum number of other people that they'd consider sharing the cost with (EUR245 for bottle + EUR 35 express shipping).

I'm in. I'd hope that everyone would want to contribute to such a worthy endeavour... Split that way the cost is very fair. If only some choose to chip in but everyone drinks it seems a bit unfair; likewise we could hardly limit it to those who'd paid.
Rise to the occasion,

[PhilW]

Ni66 arrived today - nice looking bottle (bottling date is 69: 3yr post-harvest) - so time for a decision.

Probably best way to determine is for those who want to open it to state the minimum number of other people that they'd consider sharing the cost with (EUR245 for bottle + EUR 35 express shipping).

I'm in. I'd hope that everyone would want to contribute to such a worthy endeavour... Split that way the cost is very fair. If only some choose to chip in but everyone drinks it seems a bit unfair; likewise we could hardly limit it to those who'd paid.
Rise to the occasion,

I commend Rob for the purchase, but agree with Rob's previously raised concern of opening a "rare" bottle which has just potentially been through a lot due to travel and consequent likely temperature variations, and wonder if it might be able to show better if saved for a future occasion when it has had time to recover. Others with more experience may be better placed to comment on the validity or otherwise of this effect.

If we (Rob) decide to include this next week then as stated previously along with others I would be happy to contribute, whether as a "group bottle" or as costs split amongst those who offer, whoever is drinking.

[PhilW]

Ni66 arrived today - nice looking bottle (bottling date is 69: 3yr post-harvest)

Very interesting to me for birth year reasons; I've recommended a few friends to choose their "birth year" bottles based on bottling date rather than harvest where it improves the options. For 69 we seem to be limited to TV69 and D69colheita so to be able to add a (hopefully very) good 66 bottled in 69 to that list is excellent, if I can now ever find any more of it, of course! (but at least I know to watch out for it).

[RAYC]

and consequent likely temperature variations

I'd hope this was minimised. It was packed in polystyrene, and, since i was worried about the humid weather, collection was arranged to be late in the afternoon (4.30-5ish) yesterday and it was delivered to me by 10ish this morning. But it clearly will have been shaken up some during transport...

[RAYC]

On whose good printer should the placemats be printed? There is no complex clipping, so printing should be swift.

I can print if needed

[djewesbury]

Ni66 arrived today - nice looking bottle (bottling date is 69: 3yr post-harvest)

Very interesting to me for birth year reasons; I've recommended a few friends to choose their "birth year" bottles based on bottling date rather than harvest where it improves the options. For 69 we seem to be limited to TV69 and D69colheita so to be able to add a (hopefully very) good 66 bottled in 69 to that list is excellent, if I can now ever find any more of it, of course! (but at least I know to watch out for it).

72 (me) is even worse.. Definitely better to go for the 70s there.

[DRT]

Probably best way to determine is for those who want to open it to state the minimum number of other people that they'd consider sharing the cost with (EUR245 for bottle + EUR 35 express shipping).

I think this should be all or nothing for the reasons that Phil has stated above. Unless everyone is happy to contribute I suggest it is left for another occasion. I'm in if everyone else is.

[RAYC]

Ni66 arrived today - nice looking bottle (bottling date is 69: 3yr post-harvest)

Very interesting to me for birth year reasons; I've recommended a few friends to choose their "birth year" bottles based on bottling date rather than harvest where it improves the options. For 69 we seem to be limited to TV69 and D69colheita so to be able to add a (hopefully very) good 66 bottled in 69 to that list is excellent, if I can now ever find any more of it, of course! (but at least I know to watch out for it).

There's a rather nice G69 colheita...plus the Prince of Wales "investiture port" is pretty good if you ever come across that.

If you were born in Oct/Nov/Dec, you can always argue that you were part of the annual grapevine cycle that contributed the 1970 vintage....

[RAYC]

nb - this organisation thread must now be a contender for worst post-to-bottle ratio on the site [well, for a London tasting at least...! ]

[DRT]

nb - this organisation thread must now be a contender for worst post-to-bottle ratio on the site [well, for a London tasting at least...! ]

Not even close!

This thread has five pages so far. Looking back in this section of the forum we have three threads with seven pages, two with nine pages, two with ten pages and one with twelve pages. All are UK tastings.

Our American cousins have fewer threads, but I suspect have a higher average page count.

[RAYC]

nb - this organisation thread must now be a contender for worst post-to-bottle ratio on the site [well, for a London tasting at least...! ]

Not even close!

This thread has five pages so far. Looking back in this section of the forum we have three threads with seven pages, two with nine pages, two with ten pages and one with twelve pages. All are UK tastings.

Page count - yes. Page-to-bottle ratio? Not so sure! The Malvedos tasting had 10 pages but resulted in 28 bottles. The Cockburn tasting had 9 pages but resulted in 25 bottles (2.77 bottles per page). TPF offline 2 - you are correct - had 12 pages for a miserly 11 bottles and some t-shirts, but that's the only one that really jumps out at me!

[Chris Doty]

Friends!

Apologies for not having posted more regularly -- I am concluding a busy week by boarding my flight to London this evening (woo woo).

A few things:

1.) Filet steak, medium rare + chips, please.
2.) Would certainly be up for splitting the Niepoort 66 -- I mean, this is a 66 horizontal after all, hard to imagine a more suitable occasion (unless a Niepoort horizontal is imminent)
3.) RAYC is it too much to hope that by now the Doty Cup has been handsomely engraved?!
4.) Oscar had mentioned possibly joining the tasting. I will reach out to him to get a sense of his status.

Look forward to seeing you all soon!

csd

[jdaw1]

I suggest it is left for another occasion. I'm in if everyone else is.

Seconded.

[PhilW]

For 69 we seem to be limited to TV69 and D69colheita ...

There's a rather nice G69 colheita...plus the Prince of Wales "investiture port" is pretty good if you ever come across that.

I had intended to include the Graham 69 colheita in my original post; I wasn't aware of the "investiture port" though, will look that one up.

[RAYC]

1.) Filet steak, medium rare + chips, please.

Can i confirm this is a conscious order for chips (thick-cut) as opposed to the standard fries (McD-style) that The Bunghole serves alongside steaks?

3.) RAYC is it too much to hope that by now the Doty Cup has been handsomely engraved?!

You will not be disappointed!

[benread]

So, thinking the Croft 66 was in a specified box, I went searching for it tonight. It was not there

Are any of the offers of adoption still available please?

Thank you.

[RAYC]

So, thinking the Croft 66 was in a specified box, I went searching for it tonight. It was not there

Are any of the offers of adoption still available please?

Thank you.

I am currently bringing the Fonseca and jointly bringing the Dow with Phil as an extra. You are welcome to adopt the Fonseca and i'll bring the Dow.

[jdaw1]

Tom’s Rebello Valente wasn’t taken. But adopting the Fonseca would probably be better. Please let me know placemats need to be printed.

[benread]

So, thinking the Croft 66 was in a specified box, I went searching for it tonight. It was not there

Are any of the offers of adoption still available please?

Thank you.

I am currently bringing the Fonseca and jointly bringing the Dow with Phil as an extra. You are welcome to adopt the Fonseca and i'll bring the Dow.

Rob, please may I take you up on this offer. Let me know by PM / Email what I owe you for this.

Thank you,

Ben

[jdaw1]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• BMHR bringing the Fonseca;
• RAYC bringing the Dow;
• Resumption of international Cr66 crisis.

   

[RAYC]

So, thinking the Croft 66 was in a specified box, I went searching for it tonight. It was not there

Was it perhaps opened at your 2012 Birthday Boys' Tasting....?!

[djewesbury]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• BMHR bringing the Fonseca;
• RAYC bringing the Dow;
• Resumption of international Cr66 crisis.

If you rearranged the glasses on page one you could spell the word Crofts, this sublimating your anxiety in an aesthetic form.

[jdaw1]

If you rearranged the glasses on page one you could spell the word Crofts, this sublimating your anxiety in an aesthetic form.

Phil has requested the same. Currently:

• The smaller-type Titles are in the same line;
• The brands currently owned by the The Fladgate Partnership are togther;
• And likewise Symington Family Estates;
• And likewise Sogrape.

I favoured these qualities over spelling the name of one of the ports (why privilege that one?). If you can find a contrary consensus, it will be followed.

[djewesbury]

If you rearranged the glasses on page one you could spell the word Crofts, this sublimating your anxiety in an aesthetic form.

Phil has requested the same. Currently:

• The smaller-type Titles are in the same line;
• The brands currently owned by the The Fladgate Partnership are togther;
• And likewise Symington Family Estates;
• And likewise Sogrape.

I favoured these qualities over spelling the name of one of the ports (why privilege that one?). If you can find a contrary consensus, it will be followed.

Your logic is impeccable and I defer to it.

[RAYC]

Any way we can arrange "D", "D,W" and "W" side by side?

[jdaw1]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• Any way we can arrange "D", "D,W" and "W" side by side?

  I can get the ‟D,W” between the D and W, even though, for five glasses, I prefer /RectangularDislocation to /Diamonds. But maybe, with five beside six, I prefer the latter, as the middle rows align. Team choice between this and the previous are these placemats yet sown up?

   

[RAYC]

Discussions are ongoing as to whether "Ni" joins the party. Happily that would seem to fit in with your desired outcome...

[jdaw1]

Discussions are ongoing as to whether "Ni" joins the party.

But we can’t have Ni without Peng and Neee-Wom.

[djewesbury]

Like the /Diamonds, like the alignment.

[djewesbury]

Discussions are ongoing as to whether "Ni" joins the party.

But we can’t have Ni without Peng and Neee-Wom.

This is a frightfully silly thread.

[PhilW]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• Any way we can arrange "D", "D,W" and "W" side by side?

  I can get the ‟D,W” between the D and W, even though, for five glasses, I prefer /RectangularDislocation to /Diamonds. But maybe, with five beside six, I prefer the latter, as the middle rows align. Team choice between this and the previous are these placemats yet sown up?

Alternatively, rather than having the DW between D and W, it could be next to both triangularly; while keeping the ports from the different producers together, this could be done as:
.F..T. .G.GC.
Cr..O. .W..D.
.N..S. ..WD..
This would also reduced the number of glasses in the nearest row, which might help if we are eating and the room is a little CrOWDed. Of course this would be no good if a shrubbery is required.

[jdaw1]

.F..T. .G.GC.
Cr..O. .W..D.
.N..S. ..WD..

Loses the alignment quality liked by djewesbury; and smaller-type Titles no longer in the same line.

[PhilW]

.F..T. .G.GC.
Cr..O. .W..D.
.N..S. ..WD..

Loses the alignment quality liked by djewesbury; and smaller-type Titles no longer in the same line.

damn, I agree

[jdaw1]

Loses the alignment quality liked by djewesbury

Though that could be fixed with [ /Array /Positions [1 2] [0 1] [2 1] [0 0] [2 0] ].

[jdaw1]

Dow or Warre? The capsule:

[jdaw1]

Dow or Warre? The label: