Warres Vertical October 2nd

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 11:32 Thu 23 Apr 2009

On October 2nd at 7pm at the RAF Club in London a Warre's vertical will be held. Tom and Wolfgang very generously supplied the wines.

We will taste the following VPs of Warre: 94,91,85, 83, 80, 77, 75, 70, 66, 63, 60, 58, 55, 52 and 47.

Participation fee will be 100 GBP (115 EUR) and will include the wines, corc fee and room charges and a 3 dish-dinner that we will be starting with. All additional drinks will be charged.

Confirmed attendees are so far:

Tom
Wolfgang
Julian
Dirk
Derek
Alex B
Alex K
Axel+1
Chris Gee
Ben
Jacob H
Enrico
Ghandi

Please let me know early if you intend to spend the night there (room fee will be around 70 GBP).

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 13:38 Thu 23 Apr 2009

Updated with Jacob

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 14:58 Thu 23 Apr 2009

updated with Ben confirmed

Axel

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 16:48 Thu 23 Apr 2009

Axel,
Can you put me down as tentative. I need to work out logistics, but I should be able to make this as I should be heading through London on my way to Oporto that week. I'll keep you updated as things progress. thanks

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 18:56 Thu 23 Apr 2009

I ll save you a seat. Good to have police protection at the tasting. I do not know wether you heard the stuff going on around the pirates in Africa, but to arrest the pirates legaly on a german frigate you need to have policemen on board as well. We could bomb and destroy poop on our own, but not arrest any. That makes sense, doesnt it?

Axel

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 19:21 Thu 23 Apr 2009

Axel P wrote:I ll save you a seat. Good to have police protection at the tasting. I do not know wether you heard the stuff going on around the pirates in Africa, but to arrest the pirates legaly on a german frigate you need to have policemen on board as well. We could bomb and destroy poop on our own, but not arrest any. That makes sense, doesnt it?

Axel

If you put me in the backseat of your plane, does that count as "policeman onboard?" If so, they we can fly around and take care of those pesky little critters

Oh yeah, can we take a small detour and fly into the Douro for a visit. In the jet it won't take long to get there and I'm sure we can figure out a way to stash some Port on board to quench our thirst after all our hard work

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 17:09 Fri 24 Apr 2009

The ammo box of the cannons holds exactly 2 cases of 6 btl. ea of Vesuvio (thanks to the Symingtons to keep these measurements in mind when they constructed the case).

Axel

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 01:19 Sat 25 Apr 2009

Axel P wrote:The ammo box of the cannons holds exactly 2 cases of 6 btl. ea of Vesuvio (thanks to the Symingtons to keep these measurements in mind when they constructed the case).

Axel

Very nice of the Symington's to take that into consideration...now if only they could design a case that fits into the saddle bag of my police motorcycle

benread · Post by **benread** » 05:11 Sat 25 Apr 2009

Andy V wrote:
Axel P wrote:The ammo box of the cannons holds exactly 2 cases of 6 btl. ea of Vesuvio (thanks to the Symingtons to keep these measurements in mind when they constructed the case).

Axel
Very nice of the Symington's to take that into consideration...now if only they could design a case that fits into the saddle bag of my police motorcycle

I managed to bring 6 bottles of Chateauneuf du Pape back from france in my throw over (soft) panniers along with what little clothing I had deemed appropriate for a 2,500 mile 6 day trip! I am sure whatever model the authorities provide for you is somewhat larger than my 600cc sports bike!

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 18:53 Mon 27 Apr 2009

Well, mine has about 150 kN.

Axel

Post by **jdaw1** » 03:57 Tue 28 Apr 2009

The placemats, or at least a draft thereof, are at www.jdawiseman.com/port/20091002_warre.pdf. Comment welcome.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 09:45 Tue 28 Apr 2009

Would there be any chance of replacing some of the Palantino with Chevalier Open (the typeface I think is currently used for the Warre logo)?

(And as a Mac user, shouldn't you be using Helvetica rather than Arial?

)

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:56 Tue 28 Apr 2009

That’ll cost me $20. I’ll PM what fonts I already have.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 13:29 Tue 28 Apr 2009

jdaw1 wrote:That’ll cost me $20. I’ll PM what fonts I already have.

[reply forwarded to a PM to avoid the wrath of Wolfgang by continuing here]

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 20:08 Wed 29 Apr 2009

I would not say wrath; with reference to the elaborate discussion in the preparations for the Vargellathon I was rather confused and feared initially my English was not good enough to understand the deeper meaning behind the thread. After Alex and you kindly agreed that you also felt it went a bit beyond I was relieved and as far as I remember openly admitted that these sort of technical outbursts should be more controlled.
Again I am very happy that Julian and you work out the placemates. Apologies, I am a bit too focussed on trying/drinking wines (do also not read a lot, too much focused on practical application

) and do avoid looking into these very necessary things.

Especially since they make the tasting so much nicer.

With regards to the Warre vertical I must say I found the Arial issue funny, since I have a "Julian" at work (though I admit not in the same league as him ) who made me change to use Arial (used New Times Roman before which now I admit is horrible).

Hope Julian is now not to cross with me

Wolfgang

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:10 Wed 06 May 2009

Updated!

Axel

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 14:16 Wed 06 May 2009

Axel,
I've not been put into the list and don't want to get left out. Can you add me in, thanks

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:06 Wed 06 May 2009

The friend has said that he won't be able to confirm until much later in the year (September) and has therefore suggested that we offer his place to others but he will ask if he turns out to be free and can join us.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 17:17 Mon 11 May 2009

I've been contemplating a trip to the UK, for port drinking among other reasons, but sadly this is too close to a holiday. Will keep my eyes on your tastings, though

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 18:53 Mon 11 May 2009

Hey Josh,

we will have one on you, though.

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 13:01 Mon 18 May 2009

Andy, for some reason I did not put you in the forum-list yet, but do have you in my internal excel-list. Sorry, but always remember: we will leave no one behind!

So, as from now on you are as well in the official list, too.

Axel

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 23:11 Mon 18 May 2009

Very cool, thanks Axel.

Post by **jdaw1** » 04:04 Sun 12 Jul 2009

What are the first letters of the surnames of Dirk, Enrico, and Maggie?

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 08:46 Sun 12 Jul 2009

Dirk B. Enrico M. and Maggie R.

Thanks for all the work, Julian.

Axel

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:07 Sun 12 Jul 2009

Placemats updated: www.jdawiseman.com/port/20091002_warre.pdf.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:35 Wed 22 Jul 2009

How about we will have a Pink Port side tasting before the meal on Oct 2nd. I could supply the Quevedo and would ask other participants to bring one, too. I guess, a Pink tasting hasnt been organised yet and it wont justify the effort for a single tasting anyway.

Comments, please

Axel

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:39 Wed 22 Jul 2009

I’d rather save my palate for the Warre. But happy to bring Cruz Pink from France, if others want it.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 11:40 Wed 22 Jul 2009

Julian, good point. Maybe before the meal only and then we d start with the real stuff?

Axel

Post by **DRT** » 08:18 Sun 26 Jul 2009

Axel P wrote:How about we will have a Pink Port side tasting before the meal on Oct 2nd. I could supply the Quevedo and would ask other participants to bring one, too. I guess, a Pink tasting hasnt been organised yet and it wont justify the effort for a single tasting anyway.

Comments, please

Axel

I think I could live without a Pink Port tasting.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:04 Sun 26 Jul 2009

Ok, then we skip the pink stuff.

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:43 Mon 03 Aug 2009

Emails with Wolfgangs account will come soon and we added 91 and 94. We left 97 out as being to young to be enjoyed.

Axel

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 20:45 Tue 04 Aug 2009

Yep, but we still also need to check if we can get the Warre 1950. It maybe a bit academic (supposed according to uncle Tom not so good) but nevertherless.

Will update all shortly.

regards

WS1

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 20:07 Wed 05 Aug 2009

supposed according to uncle Tom not so good

Not personally tasted, but Broadbent's comment is a classic: "smell and taste of asbestos filter pads"

Not a strong year, and one of MB's most damning notes ever - but I would like to include it if we could find a bottle - it might just surprise..

Tom

marc j. · Post by **marc j.** » 02:40 Fri 07 Aug 2009

Well, I'm not sure about the appeal of the "smell and taste of asbestos filter pads' - but if an opening does present itself for this tasting, I'd be more than willing to fly over the pond to participate. I've always been interested in doing a Warre's vertical...

Marc

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:50 Fri 28 Aug 2009

Andy V is unable to attend. As his replacement I would very much like to invite a witty port lover from the wine trade would that be OK?

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:44 Mon 31 Aug 2009

Nobody has disagreed with my suggestion in the previous post. Failing cogent objection by Wednesday, an invitation will be issued.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 18:41 Tue 01 Sep 2009

Nobody has disagreed with my suggestion in the previous post. Failing cogent objection by Wednesday, an invitation will be issued.

Ghandhi is noted as being wait listed on the first post - best check with Wolfgang or Axel first, as they are taking care of the attendance list.

Tom

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:29 Tue 01 Sep 2009

My posts, in the thread organising this tasting, were intended to ‟check with Wolfgang or Axel”. Gandi PM’d.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 19:14 Thu 03 Sep 2009

Andy and Maggie will not be able to make it, so Ghandi and Hermann (not in the forum yet = Axel +1) will join.

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 15:48 Fri 04 Sep 2009

Unfortunately Maggie and Andy are out, so Alex and a friend of mine will be in: Hermann.

Axel

Ghandih · Post by **Ghandih** » 20:21 Tue 08 Sep 2009

Friends,

Many thanks for the invitation. I would be delighted to attend. My wife is likely to be "with child" for no more than two more weeks, which will make things a little hectic at home, but I hope that, with careful timing of my request, I will be able to get my card stamped.

Ghandih

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:49 Tue 08 Sep 2009

Ghandih wrote:My wife is likely to be "with child" for no more than two more weeks

Modern technology eh? Moore’s law and all that. When I was young it used to take nine months. Don’t know how they do it, like.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:33 Wed 09 Sep 2009

Ghandih,

please pm to WS1, since he is doing the finances.

Best

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 14:56 Thu 10 Sep 2009

Julian, could I please trouble you for placemats for the Warre Tasting?

Thanks

Axel

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:03 Thu 10 Sep 2009

Sure please post or update a list of who is coming.

Can you print and transport A3?

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:23 Thu 10 Sep 2009

Names: I have:

Julian W.;
Alex B.;
Derek T.;
Ben R.;
Simon G. ” ;
Christopher G.;
Jacob H.;
Tom A.;
Dirk B.;
Alex K.;
Axel P.;
Hermann ?.;
Wolfgang S.;
Enrico M.

Missing a detail about Hermann. Other than that, updated. (Note for Jacob H.: Optima-Bold, AmazeItalic, AmerettoCondensedBold.)

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 18:39 Thu 10 Sep 2009

Thanks, Julian,

Hermann is just Hermann, no middle intials whatsoever. I will ask Wolfgang to get the stuff printed since I will be arriving with the plane.

Axel

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:51 Thu 10 Sep 2009

Updated by the addition of Hermann Stoeckmann.

Printing:

The Manual wrote:The day before the tasting print the mats using a toner printer.
Ensure that ‟No automatic page scaling” (or equivalent) is checked in the print dialogue box. (Automatic page scaling can be very wrong, scaling to invisible and irrelevant artefacts in the PDF.)

On some Konica Minolta printers, and perhaps others, checking ‟Choose paper size by PDF page size” means the output is very small, a mirror image, and on paper of the wrong size. This is not good. On other printers this setting can be useful experiment as necessary.

Print single-sided obviously duplex wouldn’t work.

Use toner not ink, as a single drop of wine or water causes ink to smudge.

Print onto brilliant white paper of the correct size. In the US prefer 96 bright paper to the slightly-yellow 92.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 22:36 Thu 10 Sep 2009

Axel P wrote:I will ask Wolfgang to get the stuff printed since I will be arriving with the plane.

Axel and Wolfgang, if you don’t have access to a A3 laser printer then I’d be happy to arrange the printing as we have one at work.

Julian; is it just me, or is the spacing in the Optima numbers really uneven? Perhaps manually reduce the spacing between 5 and 2, 5 and 5, 7 and 0, and 7 and 5?

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:51 Thu 10 Sep 2009

JacobH wrote:Julian; is it just me, or is the spacing in the Optima numbers really uneven? Perhaps manually reduce the spacing between 5 and 2, 5 and 5, 7 and 0, and 7 and 5?

Oh, I thought that was my renderer. Will try a different typeface for you. Suggestions sans-serif, stylish, not ornate?