Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Date is still fine for me and my list of bottles remains the same .... other than the 77 that I've recently aquired
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Date is fine. Still happy to bring Cr94.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
all good for this. I will double check what i have.
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
I’m happy to provide Cr45 so Ian can open his another time.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Still happy to bring 1991 and 2011
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Confirming. Wines and costs as previously advised.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Please can people bring:
AHB: Cr45;
NAC: Cr47;
PW: Cr55;
CPR: Cr50, Cr60, Cr70, Cr75, Cr03;
MC: Cr63;
MPM: Cr82;
GEAG: Cr91, Cr00, Cr11;
ZDR: Cr94;
IDJ or MPM: Cr66, Cr77.
That’s sixteen bottles, between likely, thirteen of us.
Alex: you sent me a message about the ’45, which I have lost. Ian, Mike, George, Neil: please send a message about prices.
AHB: Cr45;
NAC: Cr47;
PW: Cr55;
CPR: Cr50, Cr60, Cr70, Cr75, Cr03;
MC: Cr63;
MPM: Cr82;
GEAG: Cr91, Cr00, Cr11;
ZDR: Cr94;
IDJ or MPM: Cr66, Cr77.
That’s sixteen bottles, between likely, thirteen of us.
Alex: you sent me a message about the ’45, which I have lost. Ian, Mike, George, Neil: please send a message about prices.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Pictures of the current draft of the placemats have been added to the first post.
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Am noting your Cr line-up does not include the offered Cr35 from Tony - is this is a deliberate choice?jdaw1 wrote:Please can people bring:
AHB: Cr45;
NAC: Cr47;
PW: Cr55;
CPR: Cr50, Cr60, Cr70, Cr75, Cr03;
MC: Cr63;
MPM: Cr82;
GEAG: Cr91, Cr00, Cr11;
ZDR: Cr94;
IDJ or MPM: Cr66, Cr77.
That’s sixteen bottles, between likely, thirteen of us.
Alex: you sent me a message about the ’45, which I have lost. Ian, Mike, George, Neil: please send a message about prices.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
I’d be in favour of dropping the 11 for the 35PhilW wrote: ↑23:24 Wed 11 Oct 2023Am noting your Cr line-up does not include the offered Cr35 from Tony - is this is a deliberate choice?jdaw1 wrote:Please can people bring:
AHB: Cr45;
NAC: Cr47;
PW: Cr55;
CPR: Cr50, Cr60, Cr70, Cr75, Cr03;
MC: Cr63;
MPM: Cr82;
GEAG: Cr91, Cr00, Cr11;
ZDR: Cr94;
IDJ or MPM: Cr66, Cr77.
That’s sixteen bottles, between likely, thirteen of us.
Alex: you sent me a message about the ’45, which I have lost. Ian, Mike, George, Neil: please send a message about prices.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
i will most likely be bring a 27, otherwise have others but most are in mags
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Dropped in error: ’35 in.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Unless my eyes mistake me I notice that the Cr85 is absent from the line up? It appears to be available on the retail market for £55. Should I group purchase?
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Not attending, so probably unlikely to be bringing the 47.jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:37 Wed 11 Oct 2023 Please can people bring:
AHB: Cr45;
NAC: Cr47;
PW: Cr55;
CPR: Cr50, Cr60, Cr70, Cr75, Cr03;
MC: Cr63;
MPM: Cr82;
GEAG: Cr91, Cr00, Cr11;
ZDR: Cr94;
IDJ or MPM: Cr66, Cr77.
That’s sixteen bottles, between likely, thirteen of us.
Alex: you sent me a message about the ’45, which I have lost. Ian, Mike, George, Neil: please send a message about prices.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
Sorry, should have confirmed that scheduling clash is unresolvable, so definitely not attending.
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
I confirm attendance with 1991, 2000, 2011.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
It’s reliably awful.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
I shall be in London on the night, which is to note that if a pair of seats become available do put me down +1. The +1 would be a convivial colleague with an appropriate interest in port.
Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
That seems rather harsh. I have had it many times, and while it has probably never been described as fantastic or delightful, it has also never been described as awful.
Using my various scales:
First descriptive word? It's good, even very good. But usually not excellent on first impression. (Sometimes, but not usually.) This implies 87-89.
Do I want to finish the glass? Yes, of course, and if the bottle is to hand/it is the only Port open I will happily pour another glass of my own volition. This implies 90-93.
More formal perspective? It's not usually particularly complex, but is pretty well balanced and pleasant to drink. Lots of bottle variation lately. This implies anywhere from 87 to 93 depending on the bottle.
I have rated good bottles as high as 93, but am more usually in the 90-91 range. I've been as low as 87 that I can quickly find in my notebooks.
Is it worth £55? That's the gamble. Given prices you lot normally see in the UK I'd probably say no, but that's a decent price over here in the US. I would probably happily restock my supply for $60/bottle.
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
I am unfortunately unable to attend this anymore.
My official stance is "absolutely gutted".
If anyone is able to supply the 94 in my absence that would be ideal. Otherwise, I'll find a way to get it to the event.
My official stance is "absolutely gutted".
If anyone is able to supply the 94 in my absence that would be ideal. Otherwise, I'll find a way to get it to the event.
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Re: Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023
I am in favour of not including the 1985. It’s truly horrible, so full of VA that it remains the only wine I have sent back 3 consecutive times at a restaurant.
I rejoice at Glenn’s different experience and vote against including it in the line-up.
It’s not difficult to find so anyone interested in trying it should be able to do so fairly easily.
I rejoice at Glenn’s different experience and vote against including it in the line-up.
It’s not difficult to find so anyone interested in trying it should be able to do so fairly easily.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.