Croft vertical, Tue 07 Nov 2023

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:04 Fri 28 Apr 2023

This post to hold plans as and when agreed.

Theme: Croft.

Location: the Boot & Flogger.

Date: Tuesday 7th November 2023, for which day the Red Room is booked.

Bottles:

1945 (IDJ);
1947 (NAC);
1950 (CPR);
1955 (IDJ, NAC);
1960 (IDJ, CPR, NAC);
1963 (IDJ, GEAG, MC, MPM);
1966 (IDJ, MPM, NAC);
1967 Roêda (NAC);
1970 (IDJ, MPM, CPR, NAC);
1975 (CPR, NAC with dodgy halves and excellent magnums);
1977 (IDJ, MPM, CPR, NAC);
1978 Roêda (NAC);
1982 (MPM);
1987 Roêda (CPR);
1991 (GEAG);
1994 (ZDR, NAC)
2000 (GEAG, MPM, NAC);
2002 Roêda (NAC);
2003 (CPR, NAC);
2004 Roêda (NAC);
2008 Roêda (NAC in halves);
2011 (GEAG);
2015 Roêda (JDAW, NAC halves in bond);
2016 (MC in halves);
2018 Roêda (MC in halves, NAC halves in bond).

People:

Industry guest;
JDAW;
AHB;
IDJ;
PW;
MC;
MPM;
CPR;
TC;
CMAG;
HTHW;
GEAG;
SCD.

Reserves:

NAC;
ZDR.

Draft of the food order.

Current draft of the placemats

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:04 Fri 28 Apr 2023

It’s been too long since we’ve had a Croft vertical (• 29 Oct 2014 at Plantation Place; • 16 Jan 2012 at the Bunghole; • 09 Feb 2008 in Boston).

You know what to do.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:17 Fri 28 Apr 2023

Yes please.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 06:48 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Post by **PhilW** » 07:20 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please.

nac · Post by **nac** » 07:40 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please. Will check what I have.

mcoulson · Post by **mcoulson** » 07:55 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please .... I'm sure I have something reliant to bring

Post by **jdaw1** » 08:18 Sat 29 Apr 2023

People: we are quorate. Please PM me what you could make available, and the £ you’d charge.

Post by **flash_uk** » 08:23 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please!

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 08:26 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please

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akzy · Post by **akzy** » 08:31 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 09:04 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 09:17 Sat 29 Apr 2023

Yes please

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:17 Sat 29 Apr 2023

GEAG is away at the moment, so I’m making an executive decision that he would accept.

hadge · Post by **hadge** » 20:45 Sat 29 Apr 2023

yes please

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:06 Sun 30 Apr 2023

That takes us to fourteen. There will be a reserve list, and I expect that the first one or two reserves will make it.

So far the only bottle we claim to have is Zak’s 1994. Let’s hope that it’s a Nebuchadnezzar.

Adrian Bridge has accepted his invitation.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 09:33 Sun 30 Apr 2023

I have the 45, 55, 60, 63, 66, 70 & 77.

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 09:59 Sun 30 Apr 2023

I am delighted to find that I accepted this while on honeymoon, well done George (Julian). I have 1963, 1991, 2000, and 2011.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 17:03 Sun 30 Apr 2023

Can I please go on the reserve list

Post by **flash_uk** » 18:11 Sun 30 Apr 2023

flash_uk wrote: ↑08:23 Sat 29 Apr 2023Yes please!

I believe I have 63, 66, 70, 77, 82 and 00.

nac · Post by **nac** » 16:37 Tue 02 May 2023

nac wrote: ↑07:40 Sat 29 Apr 2023 Yes please. Will check what I have.

Think I have:
Vintage - 1947, 1955, 1960, 1966, 1970, 1975 bottles in suspect condition & magnums in excellent condition, 1977, 1994, 2000, 2003
Roeda - 1967, 1978, 2002, 2004, 2008 halves, 2015 halves in bond, 2018 halves in bond

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:35 Tue 02 May 2023

The first post now lists twenty-five vintages. Starting to look like a proper tasting. Prices received from Charles (very generous — doffs hat) and and others.

Policy: I’m tempted to restrict this to ≤2003. Perhaps plus 2011. Objections?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 20:55 Tue 02 May 2023

jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:35 Tue 02 May 2023
Policy: I’m tempted to restrict this to ≤2003. Perhaps plus 2011. Objections?

Agree

Post by **PhilW** » 07:30 Wed 03 May 2023

Have 55, 60, 70. Will PM costs. Without your proposal I would have suggested <=87 or <=94 depending on whether we have any further older vintages; but I certainly have no problem with (either of) your proposal(s).

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 07:48 Wed 03 May 2023

I would be tempted to leave out the SQVPs so as to enable us to include all of the full vintage ports.

But, if we do include do Roeda, my spreadsheet alleges I have 1980 Roeda (and I know I have a half of 2005 Roeda).

Maybe a separate Roeda tasting idc?

nac · Post by **nac** » 08:18 Wed 03 May 2023

jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:04 Fri 28 Apr 2023 1975 (CPR, NAC with dodgy halves and excellent magnums);

Minor correction - my 75''s are bottles, not halves.

nac · Post by **nac** » 08:21 Wed 03 May 2023

I'm fine with suggestions to restrict range by date and/or no Roeda.

@JDAW - will send you bottle costs.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 08:48 Wed 03 May 2023

If we have sufficient bottles strong preference to focus on full declarations and omit Roeda

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idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 09:08 Wed 03 May 2023

winesecretary wrote: ↑07:48 Wed 03 May 2023 I would be tempted to leave out the SQVPs so as to enable us to include all of the full vintage ports.

But, if we do include do Roeda, my spreadsheet alleges I have 1980 Roeda (and I know I have a half of 2005 Roeda).

Maybe a separate Roeda tasting idc?

I would agree with George and omit the CrR and focus on the full vintage for which I was going to suggest stopping at 2000. Hopefully, some of those still to show their hands have pre war vintages.

nac · Post by **nac** » 12:00 Wed 03 May 2023

Does look like we have sufficient bottles to do a Roeda vertical. Maybe soon after the Croft?

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 12:45 Wed 03 May 2023

... but not the following night...

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:21 Thu 04 May 2023

We have a problem: the Red Room is booked on Tue 14th Nov. Ouch. So the date is being moved forward by one week, to Tuesday 7^th November 2023, for which the Red Room is now booked. Force majeure, alas.

nac · Post by **nac** » 20:25 Thu 04 May 2023

New date is OK for me.

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 21:18 Thu 04 May 2023

New date is OK for me.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 21:46 Thu 04 May 2023

Works for me too.

pommy42 · Post by **pommy42** » 09:50 Wed 26 Jul 2023

I would love to be added to the reserve list for this, have not tried many Croft vintages, but would need to adopt a bottle...

BRPetrie · Post by **BRPetrie** » 12:33 Wed 26 Jul 2023

Please may I also be added to the list or reserves for this please

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 20:44 Wed 26 Jul 2023

I can’t find the 2000, I have drunk my last 1963, but have the 1991 and 2011 ready and waiting.

mcoulson · Post by **mcoulson** » 21:23 Wed 26 Jul 2023

jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:21 Thu 04 May 2023 We have a problem: the Red Room is booked on Tue 14th Nov. Ouch. So the date is being moved forward by one week, to Tuesday 7^th November 2023, for which the Red Room is now booked. Force majeure, alas.

I'm fine with the new date ....

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 16:33 Thu 03 Aug 2023

Can I go on the reserve list please

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:25 Thu 03 Aug 2023

Amongst others, I have Roeda 1980.

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 14:07 Mon 07 Aug 2023

New date done with me. Would avoid Roeda and keep to classics to see this amazing house changing over time

nac · Post by **nac** » 13:25 Fri 15 Sep 2023

I now have a scheduling clash and may not be able to attend. If my place is required please make use of it.

Can potentially still provide some bottles if needed.

nac · Post by **nac** » 13:49 Fri 15 Sep 2023

...and a separate Roeda tasting might be nice?

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 15:44 Tue 26 Sep 2023

Should still be ok for this date
Cr35?

nac · Post by **nac** » 18:56 Tue 26 Sep 2023

forest26 wrote: ↑15:44 Tue 26 Sep 2023 Should still be ok for this date
Cr35?

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:31 Tue 26 Sep 2023

I believe that the list of acceptances correctly reflects thread. Time to advance the plot.

• For Tuesday 7th November 2023, please confirm or withdraw.

• Bottle offers have been sent from ZDR (Cr94); MC (Cr63, Cr16, CrR18); JDAW (CrR15), CPR (Cr50, Cr60, Cr70, Cr75, Cr77, CrR87, Cr03); and PW (Cr55, Cr60, Cr70). Others: please do likewise.

Post by **flash_uk** » 20:39 Tue 26 Sep 2023

Confirming attendance. I think there have been a lot more bottle offers than those you’ve listed - see top post.

Can I bring the Cr00? Reluctant to take another Cr66 from the same tranche the bottle for the recent ‘66 vertical came from, as that one seemed overly mature.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:14 Tue 26 Sep 2023

flash_uk wrote: ↑20:39 Tue 26 Sep 2023I think there have been a lot more bottle offers than those you’ve listed - see top post.

Yes, and no. Lots of bottles offered, without prices. Only a few people have sent offers with numbers.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 06:24 Wed 27 Sep 2023

Yes, fine for this revised date. Will contact regarding bottle and pricing.