Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
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1992 QdlR decanted at 16:00 (a little late).
Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
ParcelForce have failed: SMS said 09:15 to 10:15; at 15:03 delivery was attempted to the wrong address.
A modest bottle from a larger company will fail to substitute.
Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
Apologies for the failure of my logistics supplier. I shall attempt to get a refund of the carriage charge.
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Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
Rebello '66 decanted 6.30
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I received my La Rosa parcel this morning...
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Thank you Alex for organising.
Great to see you all again. Miss you. Stay safe.
Much looking forward to our next glas together.
Great to see you all again. Miss you. Stay safe.
Much looking forward to our next glas together.
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Many thanks also to both Alex for organising, and for Neil for arranging and sharing some ports for this tasting - much appreciated, thank you both.
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Wonderful seeing everyone. And thanks to Alex for organizing!
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Thanks Alex for organising, it was a lovely evening. Great to catch up with you all, hopefully we'll have another one in December if possible.
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Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
That was a great fun evening, with informative and amusing commentary from Sophia and the audience, and some delicious ports. It was lovely to see you all.
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Thanks Sophia and Alex, a great introduction to Quinta De La Rosa Wines and Port. Definitely looking out for them now. Enjoyed the night.
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Out of interest, is there anyone in particular people would like to have join us for a tasting? No promises, but we can always ask.
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Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
A day late, but nonetheless…
Rs88: dark red, 70% opaque. Thin nose, lacking fruit, with a hint of saccharine. Palate sour and acidic. Sweetness remains; no fruit. Long, but of nothing. Sorry, not liked.
Rs94: red, pink at edge, 70% opaque. Nose not strong, with red grape and sweetness. Plata starts soft, then a mite little Tayloresque grit. Red grape, dry but not very dry, and long with that same red grape. I think this style of Port used to be called “feminine”. I think the ParcelForce delay has left this one-decanted: it might have been more complex yesterday.
Ws15: dark dark red, 80% opaque. Palate very sticky, with blackcurrant and, behind, red grape. Despite the stickiness mid-weight, most of its strength being early and mid. This is lovely for drinking now.
Rs88: dark red, 70% opaque. Thin nose, lacking fruit, with a hint of saccharine. Palate sour and acidic. Sweetness remains; no fruit. Long, but of nothing. Sorry, not liked.
Rs94: red, pink at edge, 70% opaque. Nose not strong, with red grape and sweetness. Plata starts soft, then a mite little Tayloresque grit. Red grape, dry but not very dry, and long with that same red grape. I think this style of Port used to be called “feminine”. I think the ParcelForce delay has left this one-decanted: it might have been more complex yesterday.
Ws15: dark dark red, 80% opaque. Palate very sticky, with blackcurrant and, behind, red grape. Despite the stickiness mid-weight, most of its strength being early and mid. This is lovely for drinking now.
Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
A big thank-you to Alex for organising and to Sophia, who is always engaging.Continuing to drink the 2017 tonight and it's softening out lovely. Will be going back to Waitrose to buy more...
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@ Alex - Would be really nice to get Johnny Graham out to play. The 2000 Churchill was absolutely gobsmacking when I had it early this year.
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Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
We really enjoyed this evening. Thank you very much to Alex for arranging it and for Sophia for taking part.
One of the few good things about 2020 has been the number of online events with people in the Port industry and think Sophia was more interesting than almost anyone else I have heard.
We tried the 2016 Tinto, 2016 DouROSA, 2015 Waitrose Blend VP and 2017 Vintage Ports.
I like the 2016 Tinto a lot which seems to me to be quite a serious wine that needs some more age. Although it is a similar blend, the DouROSA always seems to be a touch simple by comparison.
I really enjoyed both the 2015 and 2017 Vintage Ports, although I don’t think you could describe either of them as possessing traditional Vintage Port characteristics. Both have lovely noses (marzipan on the 2015 and elderflower on the 2017) but very little obvious tannin or acidity. They are also missing the classical “grapyness” that is often present on young Vintage Ports. It will be interesting to see if they have the long term staying power or not. But it also seems perfectly acceptable to drink them young, now.
Incidentally, when I asked Sophia about her views on the QdlR “house style” for Port, she said that she looked to making them on the drier side. Has anyone come across a wine maker who says they like making their Ports on the “sweeter side”? I don’t think her’s have a notable dry finish to them (as might be the case with, say, Dow, Noval or Churchill) and I am beginning to wonder whether there is an element of the champagne industry to this, where people are reluctant to admit they like the sweetness in the wine and think saying that it is drier makes it sound more sophisticated?
One of the few good things about 2020 has been the number of online events with people in the Port industry and think Sophia was more interesting than almost anyone else I have heard.
We tried the 2016 Tinto, 2016 DouROSA, 2015 Waitrose Blend VP and 2017 Vintage Ports.
I like the 2016 Tinto a lot which seems to me to be quite a serious wine that needs some more age. Although it is a similar blend, the DouROSA always seems to be a touch simple by comparison.
I really enjoyed both the 2015 and 2017 Vintage Ports, although I don’t think you could describe either of them as possessing traditional Vintage Port characteristics. Both have lovely noses (marzipan on the 2015 and elderflower on the 2017) but very little obvious tannin or acidity. They are also missing the classical “grapyness” that is often present on young Vintage Ports. It will be interesting to see if they have the long term staying power or not. But it also seems perfectly acceptable to drink them young, now.
Incidentally, when I asked Sophia about her views on the QdlR “house style” for Port, she said that she looked to making them on the drier side. Has anyone come across a wine maker who says they like making their Ports on the “sweeter side”? I don’t think her’s have a notable dry finish to them (as might be the case with, say, Dow, Noval or Churchill) and I am beginning to wonder whether there is an element of the champagne industry to this, where people are reluctant to admit they like the sweetness in the wine and think saying that it is drier makes it sound more sophisticated?
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Many years ago, I spoke to the lady who ran Quinta do Infantado (Paula Roseira, perhaps?) who I thought was really interesting: they were probably the first Quinta to go independent in the modern era; they’ve done a whole load of interesting experiments (like single-varietal Port, I think) and have quite a different approach to Port making. I’d love to have a proper chance to hear about their history. Does anyone know anyone there?
I’d also be interested to hear from someone who is responsible for a more tawny-centric house. Like the chaps who are running Quinta do Mourão but I don’t think I’ve met any of them.
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I am currently in line organising something with them. If successful, I will certainly let you know.
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Re: Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist
I thought the QdlR was quite similar in style to Churchill’s. Both are houses I have tried properly for the first time and both I have enjoyed a lot. I think dryer styles are my preference it seems!winesecretary wrote:@ Alex - Would be really nice to get Johnny Graham out to play. The 2000 Churchill was absolutely gobsmacking when I had it early this year.
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