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Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:43 Mon 09 Mar 2026 Churchill, Niepoort and Quevedo are showing 2024 cask samples at the bft.

Do you know if Churchill's is a full declaration or Quinta da Gricha?
(Although I think they sometimes release both)

MigSU

Is this still on? I need to make arrangements if it is.

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I am waiting for the time that someone in the Douro goes completely rogue and makes a Vinho Fortificado de Portugal which falls outside the scope of the IVDP. Almost as if it was a family reserve which hadn't been registered and recorded... AFAIK, you can't, all wine spirit (aguardente) in the Dour...

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Thanks for the heads up, it's on Sogrape's website as well (just checked). Good call from them, it was a good year for their properties, especially in the Douro Superior.

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I am waiting for the time that someone in the Douro goes completely rogue and makes a Vinho Fortificado de Portugal which falls outside the scope of the IVDP. Almost as if it was a family reserve which hadn't been registered and recorded... AFAIK, you can't, all wine spirit (aguardente) in the Dour...

MigSU

Yes, that's the one! In that document, there are 64 Tinto and 46 Branco that are authorized for Port. Plus an additional 1 Tinto and 4 Branco that are only authorized for Douro wines. Also note that Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir, and Chardonnay, are only allowed in Douro DOC sparkling wine, not in DOC st...

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Yes, that's the one! In that document, there are 64 Tinto and 46 Branco that are authorized for Port. Plus an additional 1 Tinto and 4 Branco that are only authorized for Douro wines. Also note that Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir, and Chardonnay, are only allowed in Douro DOC sparkling wine, not in DOC st...

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richmills wrote: ↑12:52 Tue 03 Mar 2026 I'm intrigued by the suggestions to use it in a bolognese. Wouldn't that make it far too sweet?

There be ways.

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Sounds like an excellent bottle of Port.
It happens to be my brother's birth year, so I'll be keeping an eye on this.

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I was looking at a Bonhams affiliate's auction in Denmark and came across this Port. I've never heard of it before. Has anyone ever tried it or heard of it? It's a 1935 bottling. Pimpernel Vintage Port.png I've never seen this before either. Upon closer inspection of the bottom part of the label, &...

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I honestly think the business model for vintage Port has to change so that less is made, a lot less is released 2 years after harvest and most of the production is held back, matured by the producers and sold 20, 25, 30, 40 and 50 years after the harvest. Not a bad model per se, but it presents a p...

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Thanks! I only have two of these, so was hesitant to open one.

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Do you think it has any legs? Or should we drink up?

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Can I please be added?

I can bring the following:

Churchill's
Croft
Fonseca
Graham's
Messias
Quinta do Crasto
Sandeman
Vieira de Sousa

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^^ Ooh, that sounds tasty.

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Yes, Bussaco is a good idea, and their wines are very good.

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Dear members, My colleagues and I (a group of 16) will be visiting the University of Coimbra as part of an educational field trip. While the flights are currently being arranged, I expect we will have one or two days of leisure time during our stay. I was wondering whether any members could recomme...

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Thanks to Miguel for a very enjoyable lunch yesterday, a good choice of location that I wouldn't have found otherwise! Would recommend to anyone who happens to be in Boavista in the daytime: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mercado+Bom+Sucesso/@41.155491,-8.6317833,17z/data=!3m2!4b1!5s0xd2465085a8...

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So sorry to have missed this. It was naïve of me to assume I would arrive home and would be allowed to immediately join this call! I hope everyone had a nice time.

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rich_n wrote: ↑18:28 Thu 29 Jan 2026 I shall aim to join from 7.30-ish.

I'll try to join around 8, but I'll be going dry, today, I think

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mosesbotbol wrote: ↑18:57 Tue 20 Jan 2026 Bourbon market will be good for someone major to add acquisitions. A lot of producers in a dire situation.

The loss of the majority of the Canadian market really was a massive own goal (albeit not entirely of their making).

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Excellent! I'll be arriving late afternoon on the 26th and have work calls I'll have to attend to on the 27th so how about drinks in the evening on the 27th or lunch on the 28th? I'll make the necessary arrangements for lunch on the 28th (the drunks have to be wrangled). If I can make it on the 27t...

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I have just booked a short city break in Porto for a few days at the end of January and was wondering if anyone else is likely to be in the city around that time - if you are please let me know! I might be, I'll wrangle up a few drunks and we can have lunch, if you're available. Just let me know wh...

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rich_n wrote: ↑15:22 Sun 11 Jan 2026 I have just booked a short city break in Porto for a few days at the end of January and was wondering if anyone else is likely to be in the city around that time - if you are please let me know!

I might be, I'll wrangle up a few drunks and we can have lunch, if you're available.

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Not sure if this belongs here. If not, please move it. I don't know if anyone's heard of the Oeno Group (or even - god forbid - invested in it), but apparently it's an investment firm for investing in fine wine and whisky. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it's apparently in big financial trouble (perhaps by ...

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That looks nice.

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I bought 6 bottles of a newly released (still unlabelled) 10 year old by a small producer called Mapa (the owner, Pedro Garcias, also writes a weekly article about wine in the Portuguese newspaper Público). Tasted it at lunch on Friday and it's quite good, more on the fruity side than on the caramel...

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Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑18:41 Sat 20 Dec 2025 Camel Valley Vineyard Brut 2019 to celebrate reaching the Saturday before Christmas.

Congratulations on the milestone.

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This is a lot of festive drinking.

Yesterday I had a festive lunch and a festive dinner but I forgot do document what we drank. Most of us were producers so there were lots of soon-to-be-released wines, mostly unlabelled.

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Today for an impromptu late lunch at Porto's Casa da Música we had , amongst other things, a Vale da Figueira 10yo, a Fonseca 1985, and the remnants of a Vallado 50yo that I had the luck to enjoy a couple of days ago. Non-Port standouts were the quite electric Quinta do Regueiro Maturado em Barricas...

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As a science master and a physics enthusiast, this is one of the best topics on TPF. On topic: I have a cheap temperature/humidity sensor in my cellar that has no wireless or wired capabilities, it just keeps local records of high temps and humidity that I occasionally consult. I have an Arduino and...

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I think Heisenberg will rise from the grave and stop him if he tries!

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Uva Mira? Damn, there goes one potential name for my wines. I should have dibs, though, one of those words is my surname.

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On a side note: I never understand this "It was still a big success but we decided to close" reasoning. It's a shame that a venue with almost half a century of service just closes down like that. I suspect doesn’t want to be too rude about the landlord — people meet again — but the rent i...

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Wow. In 2005 I was actually living in London, as an undergrad.

On a side note: I never understand this "It was still a big success but we decided to close" reasoning. It's a shame that a venue with almost half a century of service just closes down like that.

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It's an 1879 Verdelho.

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I like that what started as an informal chat about thermometers has devolved (evolved?) into a detailed post about the Planck length.

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I use a Thermapen in the kitchen. It is fast and reliable. I believe that mine is a Mk IV. The current Thermapen One claims to be accurate within 0.5 degrees F (0.3 degrees C). Is it really that accurate? I don't know. When I'm smoking a brisket, the difference between 200 degrees and 200.5 degrees...

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It's a trick question. There's nothing "very Port" that you haven't done.

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Those are some very nice wines. Surprised to see a Quinta das Bágeiras there, they're not very well known wines outside of Portugal but they are excellent.

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^^ I think there are 50 white and 65 red varieties, with 64 of those reds being allowed in Port (sorry Pinot Noir, you're only good enough for Douro DOC sparkling wine).

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Does anyone have, or can point me to, a list of the permitted varieties of grapes which can be used in Port production? I’m sure one must exist on the IVDP website, but I can’t find it! The pdf is is Portuguese, but maybe it's this? https://files.dre.pt/1s/2017/12/24300/0665906661.pdf And the broad...

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I had a nice dinner yesterday at Kraneman's Quinta do Convento. Standouts were their 30yo and a 2015 LBV. Kraneman are unfortunately often overlooked but their tawnies are excellent, in my opinion.

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Hello, This is my first post in this forum. I was reading this thread as I will be getting a Coravin 6 system in the idea of finally enjoying some vintage ports that I have been keeping for some 20 years in a cellar. The last posts in this thread goes back a few years so before sticking a needle in...

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£76 is quite nice. £176 not so much!

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I think the real problem here is that far too many people still think of Port as only a dessert wine, which means they don't need very much of it. That tends to cap demand, which suppresses prices of well-aged Port. This is true. What is also true is that people spend less time at the table, unfort...

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I get mine from FTLOP and here, and occasionally from one of the producers or people that I follow on Facebook. Also just word of mouth. Not everything that is known is posted here or on FTLOP, so some of it just floats around in the Portosphere until it occurs to someone to post it somewhere. :rof...

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Interesting. Seems like a great bottle. 1980 bottles from other shippers that I've opened haven't been as young as yours.

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That's a great present, I love this wine. Alas, the only bottle I had (which was also the 2022 bottling) is gone. But at least it went to a worthy cause (my thirst). That said, I'm definitely inviting AHB to my wedding.

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I've yet to fully read the articles (they're open in my browser, waiting for a good time to do so), but I must say that Paul Symington and his family aren't exactly your typical "Douro farmers" that he mentions in the article. Their interests aren't necessarily the same as my interests.

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