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Reminding me of a challenge thrown down more than 5 years ago following a 1966 horizontal, jdaw1, by private message, wrote:

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=9648#p9648]Here[/url] DRT wrote:Now then, the big question is, do we do the 1963 or the 1985 horizontal first?

That decision has been taken. What next?

DRT wrote:

Reminding me of a challenge thrown down more than 5 years ago following a 1966 horizontal, jdaw1, by private message, wrote:

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=9648#p9648]Here[/url] DRT wrote:Now then, the big question is, do we do the 1963 or the 1985 horizontal first?

That decision has been taken. What next?

So, we have now done the 1963 vintage and have re-visited 1966 at least once. We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

djewesbury wrote:We did an 83 v 85 very recently...

DRT wrote:

djewesbury wrote:We did an 83 v 85 very recently...

Are you making a point or an observation?

DRT wrote:Who is in?

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:Who is in?

I would be in. Given the relatively low cost of wines from the year (compared with old verticals), perhaps this could be a pretty broad horizontal (2bt/person)?

DRT wrote:

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:Who is in?

I would be in. Given the relatively low cost of wines from the year (compared with old verticals), perhaps this could be a pretty broad horizontal (2bt/person)?

Agreed. One drinkable and one horribly tainted with VA

PhilW wrote:Given the relatively low cost of wines from the year (compared with old verticals), perhaps this could be a pretty broad horizontal (2bt/person)?

DRT wrote:Agreed. One drinkable and one horribly tainted with VA

jdaw1 wrote:A 1985 Horizontal soon does not preclude another 1985 Horizontal in eighteen months, or after, or before, or all three.

I’m in.

PhilW wrote:Given the relatively low cost of wines from the year (compared with old verticals), perhaps this could be a pretty broad horizontal (2bt/person)?

DRT wrote:Agreed. One drinkable and one horribly tainted with VA

Splendid suggestion and reasoning.

DRT wrote:We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

Is this a preview of the horizontal I have planned for 2015 that you all are going to fly to Seattle to attend?

(Sitting at 24 confirmed bottles with 6 more expected.)

djewesbury wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

Is this a preview of the horizontal I have planned for 2015 that you all are going to fly to Seattle to attend?

(Sitting at 24 confirmed bottles with 6 more expected.)

I'm in!

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

Is this a preview of the horizontal I have planned for 2015 that you all are going to fly to Seattle to attend?

(Sitting at 24 confirmed bottles with 6 more expected.)

AHB wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

Is this a preview of the horizontal I have planned for 2015 that you all are going to fly to Seattle to attend?

(Sitting at 24 confirmed bottles with 6 more expected.)

Hmmm. What time of year? If it is in UK school holidays and doesn't clash with our August plans I might enquire whether Elizabeth would enjoy a trip to Washington in 2015.

Glenn E. wrote:

AHB wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:We now need to do 1985 justice and put the VA question to bed.

Who is in?

Is this a preview of the horizontal I have planned for 2015 that you all are going to fly to Seattle to attend?

(Sitting at 24 confirmed bottles with 6 more expected.)

Hmmm. What time of year? If it is in UK school holidays and doesn't clash with our August plans I might enquire whether Elizabeth would enjoy a trip to Washington in 2015.

I was thinking early in the year, possibly January or February. No definitive time has yet been set - I intend to work around travel schedules as much as possible.

uncle tom wrote:I have:

Burmester
Calem
Churchill
Cockburn
Croft
Delaforce
Dow
Fonseca
Gonzalez, M
Gould Campbell
Graham
Martinez
Morgan
Niepoort
Noval
Pocas
Rebello Valente
Sabordella
Sandeman
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

Notable absentees: Nacional, Offley, Quarles Harris & Ramos Pinto

TLW wrote:My 85s are all in the US, so would order up something from Davy's or BBR or some such.

Is the above list a suggestion that we hold the tasting at your house?

uncle tom wrote:Notable absentees: Nacional, Offley, Quarles Harris & Ramos Pinto

• A. Pinto dos Santos;
• Andresen;
• Barros;
• Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection (perhaps same blend as Smith Woodhouse see below);
• Borges & Irmão;
• Burmester;
• Cálem;
• Churchill;
• Cockburn;
• Croft;
• Dalva;
• Delaforce;
• Dow;
• Feist;
• Ferreira;
• Feuerheerd;
• Fonseca;
• Gilberts;
• Gonzalez Byass;
• Gould Campbell;
• Graham;
• Hooper;
• Hutcheson;
• Kopke;
• Krohn;
• M. Gonzalez;
• Martinez;
• Messias;
• Messias Quinta do Cachão;
• Morgan;
• Niepoort;
• Offley Boa Vista;
• Osborne;
• Poças;
• Quarles Harris;
• Quinta da Romaneira;
• Quinta do Crasto;
• Quinta do Infantado;
• Quinta do Noval;
• Quinta do Noval Nacional;
• Ramos-Pinto;
• Robertson Rebello Valente;
• Romariz;
• Royal Oporto;
• Rozès;
• Sandeman;
• Smith Woodhouse (perhaps same blend as Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection see below);
• Souza;
• Taylor;
• Warre.

• Barbosa;
• Cálem Quinta da Foz;
• Fonseca Quinta do Panascal;
• Kopke Quinta São Luiz;
• Magalhães;
• Pousada Porto;
• Quinta de Avidagos;
• Quinta de Roriz;
• Quinta do Bom Retiro Pequeno;
• Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias;
• Seguro;
• Skeffington;
• Van Zeller.

• Sabordella (from THRA’s list above);
• Quinta do Sibio (see below).

uncle tom has, so he wrote:Sabordella

jdaw1 wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection;

RAYC wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection;

I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration, but if so you should probably include the Mayor Sworder B.o.B / Quinta do Sibio that we tasted last year (link)

RAYC wrote:I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration

djewesbury wrote:

RAYC wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection;

I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration, but if so you should probably include the Mayor Sworder B.o.B / Quinta do Sibio that we tasted last year (link)

I am amazed you want to revisit that, going on your previous TN!

jdaw1 wrote:

RAYC wrote:I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration

Is Berry Bros & Rudd 1985 known to be the same Smith Woodhouse blend? If it is, I’ll add a few words to the list.

jdaw1 wrote:Possible 1985 declarations:...

• Hooper;

PhilW wrote:I have seen several bottles of Hooper's 1985 over the last couple of years at auction, such as this.