1983-1985 Double Horizontal on Tuesday 2 April 2013
1983-1985 Double Horizontal on Tuesday 2 April 2013
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Date: Tuesday 2nd April 2013.
Location: The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365. Booked.
Ports: {Dow, Graham, Warre, Taylor, Fonseca} × {1983, 1985}.
People: Current draft of the placemats.
Date: Tuesday 2nd April 2013.
Location: The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365. Booked.
Ports: {Dow, Graham, Warre, Taylor, Fonseca} × {1983, 1985}.
People: Current draft of the placemats.
1983-1985 Double Horizontal
At the tasting of some Churchill and some Dow on Wed 06 Feb 2013 we discussed and liked the idea of an ’83/’85 double horizontal.
Those with long memories will recall that there was an event with the same theme in Brooklyn on Sat 13 Sept 2008, at which we tasted {Dow, Fonseca, Gould Campbell, Graham, Noval Nacional} × {’83, ’85}.
It was a good theme, and well worth doing in London. But when, and with which shippers?
Those with long memories will recall that there was an event with the same theme in Brooklyn on Sat 13 Sept 2008, at which we tasted {Dow, Fonseca, Gould Campbell, Graham, Noval Nacional} × {’83, ’85}.
It was a good theme, and well worth doing in London. But when, and with which shippers?
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
I'm in and offer G83 and T83 as my contribution.
My preference would be to skip the Nacionals on the basis that 80s vintages from that house rarely live up to the hype.
My preference would be to skip the Nacionals on the basis that 80s vintages from that house rarely live up to the hype.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
It wasn’t meant to be a suggestion of NN, merely a reminder of what was previously tasted.DRT wrote:My preference would be to skip the Nacionals on the basis that 80s vintages from that house rarely live up to the hype.
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
I agree that NN is very poor value from that era.
Suggest we avoid those houses that had problems in '85, and go for:
Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre
I can supply any, although my SW83 is still in it's owc
Suggest we avoid those houses that had problems in '85, and go for:
Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre
I can supply any, although my SW83 is still in it's owc
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Works for me. When?uncle tom wrote:Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
I'd like to be there if available; Perhaps one day of weeks starting 4Mar or 11Mar?Works for me. When?
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When does the rutting season end?PhilW wrote:I'd like to be there if available; Perhaps one day of weeks starting 4Mar or 11Mar?jdaw1 wrote:Works for me. When?uncle tom wrote:Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Late March, but I'm not sure exactly when.DRT wrote:When does the rutting season end?
Top Ports in 2022: Quinta do Noval Nacional 1931. I have never drunk such a wonderful bottle of Port. I cried with joy.
2023: Fonseca 1966. There are not many better Ports.
2023: Fonseca 1966. There are not many better Ports.
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March 14When does the rutting season end?

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
The seems like an ideal way to welcome you back from the fielduncle tom wrote:March 14When does the rutting season end?

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
- Thankyou!This seems like an ideal way to welcome you back from the field
Give me a day or so to recuperate - what day of the week suits people best?
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Tuesday 19th March best for me.
Wednesday a no-no, as it’s Budget day. Thursday is publication day. Monday disliked by Mrs W. Hence Tuesday please.
Wednesday a no-no, as it’s Budget day. Thursday is publication day. Monday disliked by Mrs W. Hence Tuesday please.
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
19th March works for me.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
And Friday is the Taylor Vertical so we can't do Friday either.jdaw1 wrote:Tuesday 19th March best for me.
Wednesday a no-no, as it’s Budget day. Thursday is publication day. Monday disliked by Mrs W. Hence Tuesday please.
Sadly, March 19th and March 22nd are too close to each other for me to make both. And I would prefer to attend the Taylor vertical.
Top Ports in 2022: Quinta do Noval Nacional 1931. I have never drunk such a wonderful bottle of Port. I cried with joy.
2023: Fonseca 1966. There are not many better Ports.
2023: Fonseca 1966. There are not many better Ports.
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Ah. The proximity escaped my notice.
Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April? I think this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April? I think this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Works for me.DRT wrote:Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April?
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That seems remarkably restrained for someone posting while pretending to be DRT.DRT wrote:Ah. The proximity escaped my notice.
Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April? I think this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
But April will work much better for me.
Top Ports in 2022: Quinta do Noval Nacional 1931. I have never drunk such a wonderful bottle of Port. I cried with joy.
2023: Fonseca 1966. There are not many better Ports.
2023: Fonseca 1966. There are not many better Ports.
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
To clarify: "doing well" = 35 shippers of each vintage.AHB wrote:That seems remarkably restrained for someone posting while pretending to be DRT.DRT wrote:this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
What does "remarkably restrained" mean?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Could we set this for early May? When would work best for folks?
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Not early May would work best for me.jdaw1 wrote:Could we set this for early May? When would work best for folks?
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
If someone were to say Tuesday 2nd April that might be very good. Just a thought. Perhaps I'll say it.
What about Tuesday 2nd April?
What about Tuesday 2nd April?
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Further to the above, if this date (2nd April) were to prove convenient for a number of people and we were to confirm it, I might book flights. I'll be in Berlin until the 1st, and would otherwise fly back to Ireland, but if the date suits I'll gladly have a couple of days in London...
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Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
Works for me. If, by Sunday, there are no strong objections to Tuesday 2nd April 2013 then that will be the date.
Re: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal
2nd April works for me.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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