Doty's Triumphant Return - London, Friday, February 15th

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Gents,

After an inexcusably long absence, I have finally booked tickets to return to London over Presidents' Day Weekend (February 15th - 18th), and plan to sponsor a port tasting in honor of my TPF friends. AHB probably knows a few of the bottles I will have in tow, but for the most part my intention is to bring some blind treasures and see if anyone can guess what they may be.

In terms of venue/placemats, I'd certainly welcome some local logistical support if someone would like to volunteer.

So, chime in with availability. I look forward to finally catching up with you guys in a few weeks!!

Warm Regards
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I shall do my best to create a pass. Having just cancelled a boys weekend to act as nursemaid to a sick wife, I think my chances are good!
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Chris Doty wrote:placemats
Surely me. Yes. Instruct.
Chris Doty wrote:venue
The obvious choice is the The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT.
Chris Doty wrote:my TPF friends
I would be honoured to be included, and shall seek permission.
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That's the spirit, chaps!

Re: placemats...all bottles will be brought blind, served in flights of 2. I have identified 10 bottles so far, but may get up to 12 in the days ahead. As names for the individual circles, iIm thinking perhaps each guest could email jdaw a one word description of myself or the period of time I spent in london (though please do your best to avoid profanity, as tempting as it may be!). I may even bring a reward for whoever is judged to have summed me up best.

re: venue, the bung hole, while perhaps having a different connotation in English than in American, should be a perfectly suitable venue, and please feel free to let them know that we're coming

re: friends, of course that's a silly question, and I would be sincerely disappointed not to see you. Been too long.
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Chris Doty wrote:iIm thinking perhaps each guest could email jdaw a one word description of myself or the period of time I spent in london (though please do your best to avoid profanity, as tempting as it may be!). I may even bring a reward for whoever is judged to have summed me up best.
I am not sure if you are formally 'Christopher' but were you, and were two words permissable, then I believe the anagram 'Cherish port' would have served me well!
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I'm in!

Hmmm? That means I am in London two weekends out of three. Perhaps I should seek permission? Or...

I'm in! :D
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Chris Doty wrote:perhaps having a different connotation in English than in American
They’re probably the same, which might be why the owner is trying a new rubbish dull corporate name, which we are refusing to use.
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jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:perhaps having a different connotation in English than in American
They’re probably the same, which might be why the owner is trying a new rubbish dull corporate name, which we are refusing to use.
Nonsense. Either side of the Atlantic a bung hole is the hole in the barrel into which the bung is driven. What else could it mean? Whatever else it means, it is an excellent choice for the venue. Other venues might be available if TBH is not acceptable. If you are happy to use the Bung Hole then let us know and we'll book the private room.

Friday or Saturday? (And no, I will not get permission for both!) Or Sunday?
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jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:my TPF friends
I would be honoured to be included, and shall seek permission.
Permission sought, and granted. Praise be to Mrs W.
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jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:my TPF friends
I would be honoured to be included, and shall seek permission.
Permission sought, and granted. Praise be to Mrs W.
You are very lucky to have such an understanding and beautiful wife. It is no wonder you go on, and on and on about how wonderful and beautiful she is when we are at Port tastings. Now I understand.
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DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:my TPF friends
I would be honoured to be included, and shall seek permission.
Permission sought, and granted. Praise be to Mrs W.
You are very lucky to have such an understanding and beautiful wife. It is no wonder you go on, and on and on about how wonderful and beautiful she is when we are at Port tastings. Now I understand.
Well, she is.
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:my TPF friends
I would be honoured to be included, and shall seek permission.
Permission sought, and granted. Praise be to Mrs W.
You are very lucky to have such an understanding and beautiful wife. It is no wonder you go on, and on and on about how wonderful and beautiful she is when we are at Port tastings. Now I understand.
Well, she is.
What is most remarkable of all is that she had already given permission for this. I think Sainthood must be on her horizon.
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DRT wrote:permission for this
Err, let me check.
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DRT: You've made my day. You have a way with words. I feel like a Goddess. Also, this has inspired me to really want to meet your Mrs. Does she fall under your spell with the sweet talking? Or is she now immune?

Mr W did not tell me about the 26th Feb. There's nothing going on at the Wiseman household except the little monsters doing their usual shenanigans. So, yes, JDAW is free.

As for the 15th, SCP-DFS (formally known as SCP-DFF), has been invited to a night of drinking with fellow moms. I'm taking my husband's port, serving it to the ladies, and we're going to find out how well these Brit women can really drink! There's no competition. I know I can't drink. They'll be happy enough to drink my hubby's port!

Since the wife is out, Julian thought he was in no luck. But the au pair saved the day and offered her babysitting services to watch the kids. Now Julian will be free to join you all and I will have my turn to go out drinking with my fellow lady friends!

Hurray! We all win.

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PS - Does Julian really talk about his wife during the port tastings? Surely not. You middle-aged men love to talk about young damsels!
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Hi Chris,

I am in England that weekend; thought I take a breather after going to a big Burgundy tasting in Austria the weekend befoer and to a very big CDP tasting the week after. But seeing after such a long period of time; am already looking fwd to it. So would like to attend.

Also am sure to find an excellent bt of port to bring by :lol:

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SCP-DFF wrote:DRT: You've made my day. You have a way with words. I feel like a Goddess. Also, this has inspired me to really want to meet your Mrs. Does she fall under your spell with the sweet talking? Or is she now immune?
I plead the 5th.
SCP-DFF wrote:PS - Does Julian really talk about his wife during the port tastings? Surely not. You middle-aged men love to talk about young damsels!
Yes, he really does. Whenever the chaps start talking of young damsels our friend from south west London glazes over and starts mumbling under his breath about wishing he was at home with his beloved wife. Sometimes a small tear falls down his cheek. It is a very humbling experience for all of us.

I do hope you enjoy your night with the girls, which you obviously so richly deserve. Don't worry about Julian, we will look after him.

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benread wrote:I believe the anagram 'Cherish port' would have served me well!
I quite agree -- I can't believe I hadn't noticed that!

Glad you can make it, Ben.
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DRT wrote:I'm in!

Hmmm? That means I am in London two weekends out of three. Perhaps I should seek permission? Or...

I'm in! :D

Would expect nothing less from you!

Really looking forward to seeing everyone.
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jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:perhaps having a different connotation in English than in American
They’re probably the same, which might be why the owner is trying a new rubbish dull corporate name, which we are refusing to use.

I see....if that is 'Davy's Bar and Grill' than I am 100% with you. That may indeed be the least worthwhile name for a pub since Slug and Lettuce.

Bunghole it is.
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SCP-DFF wrote:I feel like a Goddess....There's nothing going on at the Wiseman household except the little monsters doing their usual shenanigans. So, yes, JDAW is free.
Like what you're doing here.
SCP-DFF wrote:Now Julian will be free to join you all and I will have my turn to go out drinking with my fellow lady friends! Hurray! We all win.
Excellent!
SCP-DFF wrote:You middle-aged men
28 hardly seems middle aged to me. :shock:

Please consider yourself invited to any tasting I am involved in -- and it sounds like quite a pity that we'll be counting you out of these festivities!
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WS1 wrote:Hi Chris,

I am in England that weekend; thought I take a breather after going to a big Burgundy tasting in Austria the weekend befoer and to a very big CDP tasting the week after. But seeing after such a long period of time; am already looking fwd to it. So would like to attend.

Also am sure to find an excellent bt of port to bring by :lol:

regards

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Wolfy!

You're a beast my friend, and I am really thrilled that you are going to come out and help celebrate my return to London. Every tasting is more fun with you present, and I look forward to catching up. Was the Austrian tasting something by Gerhard? I've always wanted to attend one of his events -- seems like a fabulous host.

Anyway, I hope all's well,
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AHB wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:perhaps having a different connotation in English than in American
They’re probably the same, which might be why the owner is trying a new rubbish dull corporate name, which we are refusing to use.
Nonsense. Either side of the Atlantic a bung hole is the hole in the barrel into which the bung is driven. What else could it mean? Whatever else it means, it is an excellent choice for the venue. Other venues might be available if TBH is not acceptable. If you are happy to use the Bung Hole then let us know and we'll book the private room.

Friday or Saturday? (And no, I will not get permission for both!) Or Sunday?

Had to save this one for last.....

Really don't know where to take this one...

Well, in any case -- we are talking the evening of Friday, the 15th. @ the bunghole. You will have special instructions. I will call you sometime this week to discuss.

Can't wait!
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This feels like a plan that is very much coming together, but I don't yet understand the theme.

Is it:

1. Bring a bottle of VP wrapped in foil (and hopefully not poured down your leg) to share with Doty, or;

2. Bring some cash to adopt one or more of Doty's bottles?
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Chris Doty wrote:
SCP-DFF wrote:I feel like a Goddess...
Please consider yourself invited to any tasting I am involved in -- and it sounds like quite a pity that we'll be counting you out of these festivities!
Be very careful here, Chris. It is only with great age and experience that JDAW and I have learned to manage the expectations of a complex creature such as SCP-DFF without her realising what we are up to. Wisdom does indeed come with age.
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DRT wrote:without her realising what we are up to.
She’ll never guess.
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DRT wrote:This feels like a plan that is very much coming together, but I don't yet understand the theme.

I think the theme should be understood to be:

Doty is bringing ~12 bottles of port for your general enjoyment. Should you feel that 12 bottles may be insufficient for our purposes (entirely likely, given prior experience), you are welcome to offer support.

I have a particular, non-port request for each of you as well, but will send those via phone/email/PM.

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DRT wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:
SCP-DFF wrote:I feel like a Goddess...
Please consider yourself invited to any tasting I am involved in -- and it sounds like quite a pity that we'll be counting you out of these festivities!
Be very careful here, Chris. It is only with great age and experience that JDAW and I have learned to manage the expectations of a complex creature such as SCP-DFF without her realising what we are up to. Wisdom does indeed come with age.
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i have always listened attentively to your guidance, and do not plan to start making exceptions at this stage. duly noted.
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DRT wrote:Bring a bottle of VP wrapped in foil (and hopefully not poured down your leg) ...
Missed the parenthetical somehow in the first read. Obviously a killer reference. I am thus slain.
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Chris Doty wrote:
DRT wrote:This feels like a plan that is very much coming together, but I don't yet understand the theme.

I think the theme should be understood to be:

Doty is bringing ~12 bottles of port for your general enjoyment. Should you feel that 12 bottles may be insufficient for our purposes (entirely likely, given prior experience), you are welcome to offer support.

I have a particular, non-port request for each of you as well, but will send those via phone/email/PM.

Get pumped!
This is very generous.

I'm of course keen to contribute some way - either by a bottle, a reimbursement or - if it's felt that a sufficient or nearly-sufficient volume of bottles is already committed to the tasting - i'd be more than happy to team up with one or more others to add a "special occasion" bottle as a joint contribution.
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RAYC wrote:I'm of course keen to contribute some way - either by a bottle, a reimbursement or - if it's felt that a sufficient or nearly-sufficient volume of bottles is already committed to the tasting - i'd be more than happy to team up with one or more others to add a "special occasion" bottle as a joint contribution.
Seconded.
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jdaw1 wrote:
RAYC wrote:I'm of course keen to contribute some way - either by a bottle, a reimbursement or - if it's felt that a sufficient or nearly-sufficient volume of bottles is already committed to the tasting - i'd be more than happy to team up with one or more others to add a "special occasion" bottle as a joint contribution.
Seconded.
An excellent idea. I'm in.
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DRT wrote: An excellent idea. I'm in.
Me too!
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Chris Doty wrote:
WS1 wrote:Hi Chris,

I am in England that weekend; thought I take a breather after going to a big Burgundy tasting in Austria the weekend befoer and to a very big CDP tasting the week after. But seeing after such a long period of time; am already looking fwd to it. So would like to attend.

Also am sure to find an excellent bt of port to bring by :lol:

regards

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Wolfy!

You're a beast my friend, and I am really thrilled that you are going to come out and help celebrate my return to London. Every tasting is more fun with you present, and I look forward to catching up. Was the Austrian tasting something by Gerhard? I've always wanted to attend one of his events -- seems like a fabulous host.

Anyway, I hope all's well,
Chris
Hi Chris,

looking fwd to cu you too. Sent you an e-mail in order to avoid people getting bored about all that Burgundy and CDP... :wink:
No doubt you should attend some of Gerhard's events but location wise you are a bit far away. Wrong continent mate! :lol:
Have you already thought joining us back here on the old continent (Aehm island!!!!!!!!! :oops: )
I still do not understand why you did not have daily sessions with your port chums overthere involving Port when NY was under water. You could say you missed a golden opportunity! :nirvana:

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Chris Doty wrote:Doty's Triumphant Return - London, Friday, February 15th
Worthy of commendation is the Doty-esque level of understated modesty in ‟Triumphant”. Praise be to the full-strength CSD.
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Friday is easier for me than Saturday, so I am in (Thursday would have been impossible for obvious reasons).

Chris - let me know if you want help in making arrangements, booking the venue etc. You should have my phone number and email but PM me if you need reminding. Feel free to chase us through TPF if we're not responding to your requests. Who do you want us to send our one word descriptions of you to? (Or if this is being read by JDAW - "To whom do you want us to send our one word descriptions of you?")

All - I'm in for the share of a special bottle, but we don't have too much time to get one organised. ANyone have anything in mind?

All - least we can do is to cover the cost of CSD's food bill

DRT - I sniggered out loud (SOLled?) when I read your question to SCP-DFS regarding the words "Taylor" and "Vertical".
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AHB wrote:(Thursday would have been impossible for obvious reasons)
The ‟reasons” are’t obvious to me.
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jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:(Thursday would have been impossible for obvious reasons)
The ‟reasons” are’t obvious to me.
The reasons might not apply every 14th of February, but when they apply they are obvious.
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WS1 wrote: I still do not understand why you did not have daily sessions with your port chums overthere involving Port when NY was under water. You could say you missed a golden opportunity! :nirvana:

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jdaw1 wrote:Worthy of commendation is the Doty-esque level of understated modesty in ‟Triumphant”. Praise be to the full-strength CSD.

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First draft of the placemats.
  • CSD a leftie, IIRC.
  • Done what I can with the little obedience of
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jdaw1 wrote:Done what I can with the little obedience of
Chris Doty wrote:perhaps each guest could email jdaw a one word description of myself or the period of time I spent in london
Ignoring such a simple request is bad. Trying to comply with such a simple request and failing miserably is quite remarkable.
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DRT wrote:Ignoring such a simple request is bad. Trying to comply with such a simple request and failing miserably is quite remarkable.
Indeed. I've never met Chris, but as a minimum "generous" would seem an undeniable starting point, given the tasting arrangement! I'm unfortunately am not available that week (and would have been hesitant to take up such a generous offer having never met Chris) but it sounds like it could be a very interesting tasting, and hopefully I'll get to meet Chris another time in the future.
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benread wrote:I shall do my best to create a pass. Having just cancelled a boys weekend to act as nursemaid to a sick wife, I think my chances are good!
Confirmed. Happy to contribute to proposal regarding a 'special' bottle if someone has something in mind? Will PM a 'word'.
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Re: Doty's Triumphant Return - London, Friday, February 15th

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would also like to contribute; please let me also know.

regards

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Re: Doty's Triumphant Return - London, Friday, February 15th

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DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Done what I can with the little obedience of
Chris Doty wrote:perhaps each guest could email jdaw a one word description of myself or the period of time I spent in london
Ignoring such a simple request is bad. Trying to comply with such a simple request and failing miserably is quite remarkable.
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jdaw1 wrote: CSD a leftie, IIRC
Could I be anything else?
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PhilW wrote:
DRT wrote:Ignoring such a simple request is bad. Trying to comply with such a simple request and failing miserably is quite remarkable.
Indeed. I've never met Chris, but as a minimum "generous" would seem an undeniable starting point, given the tasting arrangement! I'm unfortunately am not available that week (and would have been hesitant to take up such a generous offer having never met Chris) but it sounds like it could be a very interesting tasting, and hopefully I'll get to meet Chris another time in the future.

Phil,

You would obviously be a most welcome addition to our tasting -- I'm sorry to hear you are unlikely to be able to make it. Hopefully we'll meet up sometime soon.
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Re: Doty's Triumphant Return - London, Friday, February 15th

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Chris Doty wrote:re: venue, the bung hole, while perhaps having a different connotation in English than in American, should be a perfectly suitable venue, and please feel free to let them know that we're coming
When visiting The Bunghole earlier this week I mentioned that we were coming. There is a problem. Other people intend being in The Bunghole on the same evening and beat us to the booking.

The question of whether or not we can be accommodated comes down to numbers. How many confirmed attendees do we have?
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DRT wrote:How many confirmed attendees do we have?
I'm going to answer my own question!

Attendees:
  1. AHB
  2. BMHR
  3. CSD
  4. DRT
  5. JDAW
  6. RAYC
  7. WS1
I will ask The Bunghole if they can accommodate seven.
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jdaw1 wrote:First draft of the placemats.
I have spotted an omission :crying:
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