YesAHB wrote:I don't have access to my notes, but is there a Duorum vintage port from 2009?
2009 Vintage Port Declarations and Predictions
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An interesting reference in Richard Mayson's review of the deep Cockburn vertical that the Symingtons held last year....of the 106 cases of Cockburn 2009 Canais made, 100 have apparently been shipped to Australia...DRT wrote:In an email exchange this evening...
DRT wrote:Thanks, Paul.
Could you please clarify something regarding the Canais 09?
I was lucky enough to be given the opportunity to taste it at The Big Fortified Tasting last month when I visited Henry and Tim on your stand. My recollection is that they told me that the Canais was such a small quantity that it would be "library stock only", with no intention for it to be released now or in the future. They did mention that Bomfim and Malvedos would be released in a decade or so and the Warre, Vesuvio and Dow Reibera being released imminently.
Have I got the story wrong on the Canais?
Regards
DerekPaul Symington wrote:Hi Derek,
You have it right, the Canais 2009 is library stock. It will be used for tastings and so that we can make internal evaluations for the Quinta's wines over the years.
So the quantity is very small and it will never be released commercially.
Best,
Paul
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And yet it won a gold medal?RAYC wrote:[...]
An interesting reference in Richard Mayson's review of the deep Cockburn vertical that the Symingtons held last year....of the 106 cases of Cockburn 2009 Canais made, 100 have apparently been shipped to Australia...Paul Symington wrote:Hi Derek,
You have it right, the Canais 2009 is library stock. It will be used for tastings and so that we can make internal evaluations for the Quinta's wines over the years.
So the quantity is very small and it will never be released commercially.
Best,
Paul
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Which gold medal? - some of the awards are dished out like confetti..And yet it won a gold medal?
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Ah.. It was one of these. The page even lists a merchant that was to sell this.uncle tom wrote:Which gold medal? - some of the awards are dished out like confetti..And yet it won a gold medal?
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Intriguingly, the Vintage Port Site suggests that the port is ageing in the cellars and not currently offered for sale, before quoting R Mayson's factoid about Australia verbatim!
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Time to ask RM directly where his information came from, I think. He presumably didn't just make that up off the top of his head..?
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A little bird told me today that 100 cases did end up in Oz.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Are they on sale there?DRT wrote:A little bird told me today that 100 cases did end up in Oz.
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I have no idea. The little bird is Portuguese, so wouldn't know what has become of them.djewesbury wrote:Are they on sale there?
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Not according to Wine-Searcher.djewesbury wrote:Are they on sale there?
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Indeed, as I noticed. So.. the question remains.. WHERE ARE THEY? SInce, somehow, these cases were not fitted with a tracking device, nor instructed to call home when they could, it appears that they have disappeared into the outback.. This is like Picnic At Hanging Rock.. 100 cases of port can't just disappear.. CAN THEY???jdaw1 wrote:Not according to Wine-Searcher.djewesbury wrote:Are they on sale there?
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You are obviously new here. Watch us.djewesbury wrote:100 cases of port can't just disappear.. CAN THEY???
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but.. in AUSTRALIA?jdaw1 wrote:You are obviously new here. Watch us.djewesbury wrote:100 cases of port can't just disappear.. CAN THEY???
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I went looking and I have found the 2008 Cockburn's Quinta dos Canais. Coincidence? Perhaps. However, I think it was the 2008 that was shipped Down Under.
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Alves de Sousa
Bulas
Burmester Quinta do Arnozelo
Calem
Churchill Gricha
Cockburn Canais
Crasto
Croft
Delaforce
Dona Matilde from Barao Vilar
Dow Bomfim
Dow Senhora da Ribeira
Duorum
Fonseca
Graham Malvedos
Kopke Quinta Sao Luiz
Kranemann from Quinta do Convento de Sao Pedro das Aguias (270 cases)
Krohn
Krohn Retiro Novo
Messias Cachao
Miguel's
Niepoort
Niepoort Bioma
Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo
Passadouro
Pintas
Pocas
Quinta da Galeira from Barros
Quinta das Lamelas
Quinta de la Rosa (5,000 bottles)
Senhora do Convento
SJ from Quinta de Sao Jose (seen at an exhibition of Ports at the Casa Portugese in Vila Nova de Gaia in September 2020)
Ramos Pinto Ervamoira
Real Companhia Velha
Romariz
Rozes
Sao Leonardo from Quinto do Mourao
Seara d'Ordens
Skeffington
Taylor
Taylor Vargellas Vinha Velha
Vale Dona Maria
Vallado Adelaide
Vesuvio
Vista Alegre
Warre
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Bulas
Burmester Quinta do Arnozelo
Calem
Churchill Gricha
Cockburn Canais
Crasto
Croft
Delaforce
Dona Matilde from Barao Vilar
Dow Bomfim
Dow Senhora da Ribeira
Duorum
Fonseca
Graham Malvedos
Kopke Quinta Sao Luiz
Kranemann from Quinta do Convento de Sao Pedro das Aguias (270 cases)
Krohn
Krohn Retiro Novo
Messias Cachao
Miguel's
Niepoort
Niepoort Bioma
Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo
Passadouro
Pintas
Pocas
Quinta da Galeira from Barros
Quinta das Lamelas
Quinta de la Rosa (5,000 bottles)
Senhora do Convento
SJ from Quinta de Sao Jose (seen at an exhibition of Ports at the Casa Portugese in Vila Nova de Gaia in September 2020)
Ramos Pinto Ervamoira
Real Companhia Velha
Romariz
Rozes
Sao Leonardo from Quinto do Mourao
Seara d'Ordens
Skeffington
Taylor
Taylor Vargellas Vinha Velha
Vale Dona Maria
Vallado Adelaide
Vesuvio
Vista Alegre
Warre
I have edited Axel's list above to add Quinta das Lamelas and some others.
Links to other vintages:
2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005
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