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Split by jdaw1 from a tasting note of 2008 Bioma. That started with:

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=41951#p41951]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:NPi08. Bioma might be the new name for Niepoort Pisca. If it is to be checked then the abbreviation might need a rethink. Purple, 95% opaque. Very approachable. Mint? Lavender. Lovely.

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jdaw1 wrote:Bioma might be the new name for Niepoort Pisca.

Yes, it is.

Possibilities:

1. Pisca and Bioma, both ‟NPi”?
2. Pisca and Bioma, both ‟NB”?
3. Pisca is ‟NPi”; Bioma is ‟NB” (so breaking continuity)?

My preference #2. Others?

As the only Pisca ever released was the 2007, we could fudge things so that we could use the intuitive abbreviations (option 3) but force them to appear in the correct sequence in the index.

My other preference is for you to move this debate into the appropriate thread and leave the TN clean, albeit with links to and from the relocated debate.

From what I've seen, they wanted to call Bioma "Pisca" but couldn't. I'm not sure why, though it probably has something to do with the existing 2007 Pisca.

The 2008 is called Bioma. Future vintages may be called something else, such as Bioma-Pisca or Bioma by Pisca. For now, at least, I would go with option #3 since someone (presumably at the IVdP) clearly thinks that Pisca and Bioma must be different. Once Dirk has settled on a final name, then it might be appropriate to revisit this thread and determine whether or not a change in abbreviation is warranted.

Apparently another company has a trademark on ‟Pisca” Port (or if not a trademark, a some sort of registration of the name with the IVDP) which only appeared after the 2007 was released and which meant that Niepoort is not going to be able to allowed to use it again. I think Bioma is going to be the new permanent name for the wine.

JacobH wrote:Apparently another company has a trademark on ‟Pisca” Port (or if not a trademark, a some sort of registration of the name with the IVDP) which only appeared after the 2007 was released and which meant that Niepoort is not going to be able to allowed to use it again. I think Bioma is going to be the new permanent name for the wine.

That is more or less what Dirk told me on Wednesday, although I can't remember him mentioning the IVDP so it might just be that someone somewhere has already registered Pisca as a brand name. Bioma is the name going forward - "Bio" because the vineyard is organic and 'ma" because it means something relevant that I have unfortunately forgotten.

A post on led me to this article from an interview with Dirk at the Big Fortified Tasting where he is reported to have said that the next wine in this line will be labeled "Bioma from Pisca".

DRT wrote:That is more or less what Dirk told me on Wednesday, although I can't remember him mentioning the IVDP so it might just be that someone somewhere has already registered Pisca as a brand name. Bioma is the name going forward - "Bio" because the vineyard is organic and 'ma" because it means something relevant that I have unfortunately forgotten.

I'm fairly certain the other company had use of the word Pisca in relationship to Port (rather than a general trademark) but I am trying to remember a conversation after the Christmas tasting which is always a struggle!

Well, it will be Bioma Vinha Velha Vintage Port 2008 and will be released in July with the Niepoort Vintage Port 2009

You can see the bootle here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/Niepoort.Projectos

For the non-Facebookers, please post a picture of the bottle on TPF. Thank you.

Here it is. Sorry

Thank you. Presumably the picture is small because it is only a half bottle another reason to like large format bottles.

Just been offered the 2009 views please?

I've tried the Niepoort 2009 3 times and have no consistency between those views - my scores have ranged between 85 and 93. The last time was just after bottling and it may well needed a bit of time to settle down. Maybe you should buy 1 and see what you think?