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[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2221]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:It is possible that, some time in 2009 Q2, I shall be returning to the old world. One possibility is that all my port could travel with me. Another is that some of it forms the core of some tastings, here in the new world under its new President(-to-be). Possible themes include:

• ! [1977 horizontal]
• ! [April 2009, New York: Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre]
• Graham:
  • 1970;
  • 1985;
  • 1994.

Are any folks around here willing to help with the drinking? ! What dates work, excluding the last weekend of January and the first ten days of February?

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19925#p19925]Here[/url] jfacciol wrote:There is one more possible theme that comes out of Julian's American stash: a Graham vertical. I have 1a number of the years that Julian does not have starting with 1963. As Graham is my favorite house, this would be of great interest to me.

There’s a Graham vertical coming. I feel it in my waters.

Preferred dates, excluding the last weekend of January and the first ten days of February? Extra bottles of Graham’s? Volunteers?

Edit: on Wed 17th Dec 2008 title changed from ‟Graham vertical in New York” to ‟Friday 13th February: Graham vertical in New York”.

I must admit I'm short on grahams.

Jay, what do you think of a 1963-1994 tasting?

1963
1966
1970 -Julian
1975
1977
1980 -SushiNorth
1983 -SushiNorth
1985 -Julian
1991
1994 -Julian

Did I get the years right?

We had graham's 83 and 80 at the recent tasting, btw. I bought extra bottles of both at that time.

Graham's would be fun

I won't be near my port list for about ten days (I am in Yorkshire enjoying the howling of the wind). Off the top of my head, I have the 1963, 1977 and (I believe) the 1991. I am pretty sure that I do not have the 1966 or 1975.

Can someone reading this thread post what the expected prices of the grahams 63, and 75 would be?

According to www.wine-searcher.com/prof/ the cheapest G63 in the US is at www.wineconsigners.com for a mere $260, who also have Graham 1960 for $150.

Okay , called up wineconsigners about the 1960 .... purchased sotheby's auction 11/17/06 .. capsule branded with grahams 1960.

no signs of seepage. Fill is very top shoulder.

jdaw1 wrote:According to www.wine-searcher.com/prof/ the cheapest G63 in the US is at www.wineconsigners.com for a mere $260, who also have Graham 1960 for $150.

(whistles) That's a pricey decade!

g-man wrote:Okay , called up wineconsigners about the 1960 .... purchased sotheby's auction 11/17/06 .. capsule branded with grahams 1960.

no signs of seepage. Fill is very top shoulder.

G-man won’t be adopting at the Graham vertical.

SushiNorth wrote:That's a pricey decade!

Be nice to include a G55, and even a G45” . They won’t be cheap.

”  Not mentioning 1935, 1927, 1908, 1904, and 1900.

jdaw1 wrote:

g-man wrote:Okay , called up wineconsigners about the 1960 .... purchased sotheby's auction 11/17/06 .. capsule branded with grahams 1960.

no signs of seepage. Fill is very top shoulder.

G-man won’t be adopting at the Graham vertical.

SushiNorth wrote:That's a pricey decade!

Be nice to include a G55, and even a G45” . They won’t be cheap.

”  Not mentioning 1935, 1927, 1908, 1904, and 1900.

pricey indeed,

I'll see about the 1960, 1966, and the 75.

I can secure one or two 75 grahams for around 140 a piece, would like to attend and bring one of these with me if allowed/welcomed.

In general ’75s are terrible shouldn’t have been declared so $140 seems a lot.

I have heard from three folks by pm, so I assume that we can try to plan a Graham's vertical for January. I can supply the 1960, 1963, 1977 and 1991. That leaves us only the 1966 and the 1975. I agree with Julian's earlier comment that the 1975 should not cost anywhere near $140.00. A quick search of Wine-searcher shows the 1975 for about $80.00 a bottle plus shipping.

I am happy to volunteer my home again or perhaps, if Jeff can arrange it, we could meet at Nicks & Stef's steakhouse again. As I said in my pm, my preference is Friday or Saturday and I am pretty free in January.

Jay: thank you for nudging this forward, and, again, for offering your home.

The last Saturday of January doesn’t work for me, but Saturday 3rd, 10th, 17th and 24th are all good.

Vintages:

• 1960 ”“ Jay;
• 1963 ”“ Jay;
• 1966;
• 1970 - Julian;
• 1975;
• 1977 ”“ Jay;
• 1980 ”“ SushiNorth;
• 1983 ”“ SushiNorth;
• 1985 ”“ Julian;
• 1991 ”“ Jay;
• 1994 ”“ Julian.

People:

1. Jay;
2. Julian;
3. Josh;
4. Jeff.

That’s nine bottles from the eleven vintages, and, so far, four of us. Methinks more people needed. I will invite some.

I am rather constricted in January and can't do the 24th. I might be able to do the 17th but it is unlikely. How many people would be interested in attending this event? We'll need more than the 4 of us.

I am free on the 17th and 24th but not on those first 2 Saturdays of January.

I'm on my honey moon on the 9th and wont be back till the 31st.

I might have to bow out of this one guys.

Jeff: in one sense a shame; in another not.

People:

1. Jay;
2. Julian;
3. Josh;
4. John.

(The common theme amongst the names has been maintained Justin, Jeremy, Jack, Jacob, James, Jason, Jasper, Jimmy, Joseph, Jackie, Jade, Jane, Jemma, Jennifer, Jessica, Jo, Jodie and Justine are all welcome to sign up and drink Graham’s with us.)

I think we may need a chart of who can make which evenings then pick the best option... John and I seem to be opposite, Jeff could you make the 3rd? (could we even fill in the blanks by then?)

Is anyone else interested in this tasting? I think we need a fresh roundup/post of announced NY tastings, per jfacciol's email.

And I cannot make January 3. It would be a shame to lose Jeff and SushiNorth seems constrained in January. Why not just roll this forward until the second weekend in February, i.e., 14 or 15 Feb?

It sounds as if we have two other tastings from Julian's stash in which a number of folks have expressed interest and now we just need to find good common times: Classic Years and 1977 Vertical series 2.

I'm still hoping that we can plan something for Friday, February 27th. Will two tastings two weeks apart be too many too close together?

The Graham vertical and '77 "vertical" series 2 both sound good to me.

(Could someone please explain that joke?)

Friday 27th February is deep in the baby zone, so not me. (And as the theme is one of the three versions of drinking-Julian’s-port, that means that the G vertical can’t happen then. Sorry.)

We did a 1977 horizontal in New York last year (link), hence this is #2. I think that Jay’s description of it as 90° rotated was merely an error.

In Rhode Island I have a random Graham oddity: cask sample of Malvedos, I think it's 1988 but I'm not sure. I will bring it when I come back from the holiday. Perhaps I could contribute that and/or adopt a bottle.

I would like someday to have a Malvedos tasting, so my suggestion is that the 1988 Malvedos be saved for that occasion.

Are we in fact going to have this tasting?

I hope so. We are just struggling to agree the date.

The most likely currently seems to be Fri 13th or Sat 14th February 2009. It might be that our other halves have other plans for the 14th, so let’s say that we’re aiming for the unlucky for some 13th.

Target date for this tasting: Saturday, February 7th.
EDIT: We're still discussing this, may be the following weekend -- Yup, following weekend. Friday Feb 13th

I’m in England. And they’re (partly) my bottles.

jdaw1 wrote:I’m in England. And they’re (partly) my bottles.

And Jay's, but you're right. I didn't realize you'd be away then.

New date: Friday, February 13th.

Jay, you mentioned hosting a while ago. Is that offer still on the table?

I am fine with the Feb 13.

Friday 13th February works for me. Thread title changed.

For us married chaps so much better than the 14th of February, on which day in 2008 we had a tasting.

Where are we with this tasting? I count Julian, Jay, Josh, Eric (?) and Jeff (?). Who else? We have many more bottles than tasters at the relatively relaxed New York limit of one bottle per person.

jdaw1 wrote:Friday 13th February works for me. Thread title changed.

For us married chaps so much better than the 14th of February, on which day in 2008 we had a tasting.

Although not one of the New York Tasters, I feel obliged to declare that it is incumbent on you who are to maintain this fine and honourable tradition.

Derek

Disagreements.
• I do not acknowledge the limit imposed by Jay. Seven for four at the most recent tasting (though Eric D did have to come back the following day to help tidy).
• So Derek wants us to damage our relationships with our loved ones, so that after many years and marriages have passed enough of a precedent is set for him to try it once. Very noble of you Derek.

But we are a bit light of people. Now that plans are firmed I will invite the NY tasters again.

I am interested. Are we also including Malvedos? Perhaps a Malvedos only vertical would be more interesting...

jdaw1 wrote:• So Derek wants us to damage our relationships with our loved ones, so that after many years and marriages have passed enough of a precedent is set for him to try it once. Very noble of you Derek.

I have tried it once. I just haven't tried it with my now better-half.

Hi there. Can you count me in please for Fri Feb 13. In the mean time, please know that I am on an on-call list for work for that same time frame. If I were to need to come in to work, I would know about it a week ahead of time. (IOW, count me in but if I have to work, I will give notice if I can't come). I read there are bottles available. Does that mean there are some up for adoption?

Excellent good to have you with us. We currently have too few people (I’m reluctant to say too many bottles), so adopting will be the way forward.

Actually, I am wondering if we need both of the grahams I have (both because I have precious few left and given the small # of people). What if we dropped the 83 (of which I have only 1, and there are dozens of notes on) and went with the 80 (which I have 3 of, but which there is only a single note on)?

Let’s save the bottle-pruning decisions for the last moment, after we know how many people there are.

Ahhh the v-day/wife's bday/ back from honey moon for a week and a half tasting.

I'm a big IF on this one, leaning towards probably can't make it.

i'll probably be away for the weekend as well but let me see what i can do.

I am waiting to see how this develops before I pop the idea on my girlfriend that I am going to NYC for the weekend with her... On Valentine's Day. Not that we "celebrate" it and she also wants to go to NYC. She can hold her own on the port drinking too. Maybe she'll join too?

Moses: you and your girl are in. Send me her email address, and I'll ‘mis-address” an email to you.

People:

1. Jay;
2. Julian;
3. Josh;
4. John;
5. Moses;
6. Moses’ +1 = Elys Cintron.

By next week, I need to let my storage facility know what, if anything, to ship.

Do we have only six attendees so far?

Within fifteen hours I will have replies from two possibles.

People:

1. Jay;
2. Julian;
3. Josh;
4. John;
5. Moses;
6. Moses’ +1 = Elys Cintron;
7. Anthony.

Vintages:

• 1960 ”“ Jay;
• 1963 ”“ Jay;
• 1966;
• 1970 - Julian;
• 1975;
• 1977 ”“ Jay;
• 1980 ”“ SushiNorth;
• 1983 ”“ SushiNorth;
• 1985 ”“ Julian;
• 1991 ”“ Jay;
• 1994 ”“ Julian.

Nine for seven works well. We’re set. Clues as to where?

Let me talk it over with the better half and see what we can do.

'75 is a rare vintage. Should be able to get '66 or maybe something older? I have '85 '80 '83...