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What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 17:51 Fri 27 Feb 2026
by winesecretary
It's not really drinkable with pleasure, but nor is it straight down the sink stuff. Possibly this weekend's cooking port? Please suggest recipes.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 18:32 Fri 27 Feb 2026
by jdaw1
Boeuf …ignon. Or Bolognese.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 19:43 Fri 27 Feb 2026
by Alex Bridgeman
Duck with black cherry and Port reduction
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 23:08 Fri 27 Feb 2026
by PhilW
Port & wine reduction/jus with duck breast or some form of wellington. Or bolognese, provided you have sufficient parmesan.
Or... haggis.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 00:19 Sat 28 Feb 2026
by Glenn E.
Steak sauce. Port, cream, au juis, minced onion and garlic, whatever herbs you prefer.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 08:22 Sat 28 Feb 2026
by mcoulson
PhilW wrote: ↑23:08 Fri 27 Feb 2026
Port & wine reduction/jus with duck breast
Gets my vote !!
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 12:24 Sat 28 Feb 2026
by winesecretary
Port reduction with duck it is! Thank you.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 12:52 Tue 03 Mar 2026
by richmills
I'm intrigued by the suggestions to use it in a bolognese. Wouldn't that make it far too sweet?
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 14:36 Tue 03 Mar 2026
by MigSU
richmills wrote: ↑12:52 Tue 03 Mar 2026
I'm intrigued by the suggestions to use it in a bolognese. Wouldn't that make it far too sweet?
There be ways.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 18:25 Tue 03 Mar 2026
by Glenn E.
richmills wrote: ↑12:52 Tue 03 Mar 2026
I'm intrigued by the suggestions to use it in a bolognese. Wouldn't that make it far too sweet?
As Miguel said, there are ways. Start by using fewer carrots.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 23:40 Tue 03 Mar 2026
by Alex Bridgeman
The best bolognese ragu I have ever had was made with Fonseca 1966.
Glenn E. wrote: ↑18:25 Tue 03 Mar 2026
As Miguel said, there are ways. Start by using fewer carrots.
Uh? Carrots in a bolognese ragu? You have a different recipe to my grandmother’s!
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 00:03 Wed 04 Mar 2026
by winesecretary
Carrots (broadly, 1 per kilo of meat; same 1 per kilo ratio for stick of celery and brown onion) do appear to be standard. For me the key seems to be getting onion, celery and carrot down to a mirepoix and then cooking with the oil VERY slowly (1/9, max 2/9) lid on for circa 30 mins before going near the meat.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 00:28 Wed 04 Mar 2026
by Glenn E.
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:40 Tue 03 Mar 2026
The best bolognese ragu I have ever had was made with Fonseca 1966.
Glenn E. wrote: ↑18:25 Tue 03 Mar 2026
As Miguel said, there are ways. Start by using fewer carrots.
Uh? Carrots in a bolognese ragu? You have a different recipe to my grandmother’s!
Yeah, carrots are pretty standard in bolognese. Not that the one I make is
true italian bolognese, but I've had it in Italy and it does normally contain carrots.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 10:17 Wed 04 Mar 2026
by richmills
My go-to bolognese recipe is:
Brown equal parts of beef and pork mince in olive oil. Remove and put aside.
Fry a small amount of pancetta until the fat has rendered.
Slowly cook a sofrito (very finely chopped onion, carrot, celery) in the oil from the meat and with the pancetta.
Re-add the meat.
Add some beef stock, good red wine, herbs, tomato puree and seasoning. Top up with water and simmer for 2+ hours until reduced.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Posted: 22:48 Tue 10 Mar 2026
by MigSU
Glenn E. wrote: ↑00:28 Wed 04 Mar 2026
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:40 Tue 03 Mar 2026
The best bolognese ragu I have ever had was made with Fonseca 1966.
Glenn E. wrote: ↑18:25 Tue 03 Mar 2026
As Miguel said, there are ways. Start by using fewer carrots.
Uh? Carrots in a bolognese ragu? You have a different recipe to my grandmother’s!
Yeah, carrots are pretty standard in bolognese. Not that the one I make is
true italian bolognese, but I've had it in Italy and it does normally contain carrots.
I like to use carrots on my Bolognese as well.