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BBR VP Tasting-Wednesday 2 February 2022
Posted: 21:30 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by idj123
Berry Bros have kindly offered to host this tasting at 3 At James's Street. It will try to cover all the BBR Own Selection VPs from 1960 through to 2003 (so 14 bottles if we have or can source all). We won't have full catering but there will be plenty of cheese and charcuterie and maybe some wine thrown in as well. Cost will be about £15 to £20 a head. BBR will be represented Tom Cave and Tom has also kindly offered to try and infill any missing bottles (although does not have the 60 bottled by RV). So who's in and (as importantly) who's got what?:
- Tom Cave / Sebastian Balcombe 1960,
1991 &1985
- idj123 (reconfirmed) 1966
- MPM (reconfirmed) 1997 (mag) (part adopted from AHB)
- NAC (75) (reconfirmed) 1975
- PW (66) (reconfirmed) 1983
- TC (70 +?) (reconfirmed ) 1970
- Hadge (94) (reconfirmed) 1994
- BMHR (reconfirmed) 2003
- JDAW (reconfirmed) 1980 (adopted from CPR)
- akzy (reconfirmed) 1997 (mag) (part adopted from AHB)
- GEAG (77) (reconfirmed) 1977
- AHB (63, 77, 85, 97 ) (reconfirmed) 1963
- SCD (reconfirmed) 2000 (part adopted from BBR)
Reserve list
Current draft of
the placemats.
BBR, by email: “We use Georgia as our official typeface for our placecards.” Alas, JDAW’s version has only old-style figures, so the similar Charter used instead.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:38 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by hadge
yes - i would be keen but not sure i have any BBR port, will have a look
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:38 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by benread
This really appeals to me. I’d love to be there please.
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Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:44 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by jdaw1
Yes please.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:45 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by Christopher
Yes please
CMAG and RGO
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:51 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by winesecretary
Yes please. All I have is the BBR Quarles Harris 1977.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 22:12 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by Alex Bridgeman
Yes please.
I have the 1963, 1977, 1985, 1997 and odd bottles of one or two other vintages. I also have a bottle of the BBR Crusted Port bottled in 2003.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 22:25 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by DRT
Yes please
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 23:00 Thu 30 Jan 2020
by Doggett
Yes please
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 01:41 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by akzy
I don't have any but would be keen to join.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 10:26 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by forest26
Berrys own selection - 1970 and a few others.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 10:39 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by PhilW
Checked last night; as per Ian I only have the Berry's Own Selection from '66.
(various other BBR-bottled, but am assuming it's BBR's own brand labelled "Berry's Own Selection" we're talking about here)
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 10:58 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by CPR 1
Ian to confirm I can offer;
BBR 63, 77, 80, 85, 97 (but only in 1/2), 00 plus 2011 which might be intresting to see how it is getting on?
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 11:00 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by nac
Just checked & have one bottle of the 1975. Will save for September.
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Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 11:04 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by CPR 1
nac wrote: ↑11:00 Fri 31 Jan 2020
Just checked & have one bottle of the 1975. Will save for September.
BBR1975 crop.JPG
I have cellar envy looking at the background to that photo
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 11:22 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by PhilW
That's a very interesting label - since in my lists BBR's own '75 is listed as being Gould Campbell, not Quarles Harris - but it's also the first time I've seen a photo of the actual label (which I'd like to add to the
VPID if I may please? - once I finally get the major update done).
n.b. to anyone - I have no photo of the BBR77 either, so if anyone has one and could send me a label (and capsule?) image, please?
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 11:42 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by nac
PhilW wrote: ↑11:22 Fri 31 Jan 2020
That's a very interesting label - since in my lists BBR's own '75 is listed as being Gould Campbell, not Quarles Harris - but it's also the first time I've seen a photo of the actual label (which I'd like to add to the
VPID if I may please? - once I finally get the major update done).
Permission granted. I’ll send you the hi-res version.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 11:48 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by DaveRL
Yes please, interesting. Sorry, but I don't have any of these.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 11:58 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by flash_uk
I'll need to adopt please.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 15:51 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by CPR 1
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Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 15:51 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by CPR 1
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Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 17:22 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by PhilW
Thanks to both nac and CPR for the images
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:13 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by jdaw1
PhilW wrote: ↑11:22 Fri 31 Jan 2020n.b. to anyone - I have no photo of the BBR77 either, so if anyone has one and could send me a label (and capsule?) image, please?
nac wrote: ↑11:42 Fri 31 Jan 2020Permission granted. I’ll send you the hi-res version.
Please also send to
me (max resolution please), and allow it to be used in a later version of the
Addendum. Thank you.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 21:43 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by jdaw1
The Book wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection
In some vintage years there is a “Berry Brothers & Rudd” Vintage Port, sold by the eponymous wine merchant. The sources are shown, as kindly revealed by Berry Brothers & Rudd.
The list sent by Berry Brothers & Rudd started in 1960, so did not reveal the shippers of the earlier selections: 1917, 1920, 1924, 1927, 1935, and 1955.
1960 Rebello Valente
1963 Taylor Fladgate
1966 Warre
1970 Warre
1975 Gould Campbell
1977 Quarles Harris
1980 Warre
1983 Warre
1985 Shipped by Smith Woodhouse
1991 Bottled by Smith Woodhouse
1994 Produced & bottled by Smith Woodhouse
1997 Produced & bottled by Warre
2000 Produced by Smith Woodhouse
2003 Produced by Quinta de la Rosa
2011 When we asked Charles Symington, Head Winemaker at Dow, Graham and Warre, to send in samples for our Own Selection from the superb 2011 vintage, he was happy to oblige. After extensive tasting, we concluded the wine made in the style of Graham best captured the essence of this extraordinary year with its precision, purity and power. The blend is mainly Touriga Nacional and Tinta Roriz, with a small percentage of Souzão sourced from some of the best vineyards of the Douro Superior. The nose glories in notes of gum cistus and violet, and the palate is beautifully rounded, yet with finely etched tannins on the finish – making this vintage, to my mind, the best since 1994.
The BBR 2011 was made in the style of Graham, but might not be Graham itself.
Re: BBR VP Tasting-Tuesday 22 September 2020
Posted: 22:01 Fri 31 Jan 2020
by PhilW
Indeed. And we have additionally determined since that BBR47 is Fonseca, and BBR55 is Graham.
And BBR75 is clearly QH, either in addition to GC (if both existed) or GC is an error in their list for '75.
I was not aware of the other pre-47 vintages, so that is interesting and useful additional information, thank you.
p.s. Wasn't there a Berry's Own Selection which Tom brought once from a vintage which was pre-Rudd? (can't find my note on that currently)