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Why is it called an Offline

Posted: 08:53 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
Jdaw prompted this by objecting to the use of the word on the label's created for the event known as The Deeper Underground Offline.

I have no idea how this word came to be used. I also have no idea whether or not it should be hyphenated as 'Off-line' or not.

Does anyone know the origin, meaning and correct punctuation?

For the record, I'm with Jdaw on this one. It's stupid.

Derek

Posted: 10:05 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by KillerB
Because we are currently "on-line"

Posted: 10:10 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
KillerB wrote:Because we are currently "on-line"
Really? Did you make that up?

Posted: 10:13 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by KillerB
Derek T. wrote:
KillerB wrote:Because we are currently "on-line"
Really? Did you make that up?
Really? No. It's a standard term. We will be off-line together. I would change it to something less techo and American but most people understand it.

Posted: 10:18 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
KillerB wrote:
Derek T. wrote:
KillerB wrote:Because we are currently "on-line"
Really? Did you make that up?
Really? No. It's a standard term. We will be off-line together. I would change it to something less techo and American but most people understand it.
As that is three people who have now expressed a preference not to use Offline the labels now say...

THE DEEPER UNDERGROUND PORT TASTING

Derek

Posted: 10:29 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by KillerB
Derek T. wrote:
KillerB wrote:
Derek T. wrote:
KillerB wrote:Because we are currently "on-line"
Really? Did you make that up?
Really? No. It's a standard term. We will be off-line together. I would change it to something less techo and American but most people understand it.
As that is three people who have now expressed a preference not to use Offline the labels now say...

THE DEEPER UNDERGROUND PORT TASTING

Derek
Sounds good to me.

Posted: 10:41 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by Conky
Go on Derek, I'm curious. What did you think it might of meant?

As Alex said, it merely originated from people 'On-Line' saying that something couldn't be done until I'm/we're 'Off-Line'.
It wasn't a huge jump for people to start saying that we'll need to get together Off-Line,etc,etc.

Are you having some mid-life Epiphany, were you're looking at the word, wide-eyed, asking questions...

Posted: 10:51 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
Conky wrote:Go on Derek, I'm curious. What did you think it might of meant?

As Alex said, it merely originated from people 'On-Line' saying that something couldn't be done until I'm/we're 'Off-Line'.
It wasn't a huge jump for people to start saying that we'll need to get together Off-Line,etc,etc.

Are you having some mid-life Epiphany, were you're looking at the word, wide-eyed, asking questions...
Alan,

To be honest, I haven't given it much thought at all until today and just assumed it was a general wine/port lovers name for a tasting of any kind. I hadn't made the intelectual leap to associating it with tastings organised by Internerds like us. (have I just invented a new word?)

Mid-life Epiphony? Perhaps. Or maybe it's the lack of alcohol :lol:

Posted: 15:38 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by Overtired and emotional
I first encountered the term when engaging in a conference call some eighteen months ago. In that context it simply meant muting each party's telephone to have a confidential discussion. To that extent it bears no similarity to this Forum's usage. That, being face to face, is something I first noted on the Roy Hersh site.

Are we at the cutting edge of linguistic evolution or are we a bunch of linguistically challenged nerds? I only ask because I want to know.

Posted: 16:15 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
Overtired and emotional wrote: I only ask because I want to know.
...and I want to know if I've invented a new word

Posted: 16:30 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by KillerB
Derek T. wrote:
Overtired and emotional wrote: I only ask because I want to know.
...and I want to know if I've invented a new word
Internerds or epiphony?

The term off-line has been used on wine sites since I joined WineSpectator more than five years ago. VinoCellar, Wino Depot, FTLOP, eBob and Tom Cannavan's site all use it.

Posted: 16:36 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
KillerB wrote: Internerds or epiphony?
Both - I'm on fire today :wink:

Posted: 16:40 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by DRT
I just googled Internerds, it seems I wasn't the first to think of it. It's even a real word in Peru :roll:

Oh well, back to doing something usefull...

Posted: 16:43 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by KillerB
Derek T. wrote:
KillerB wrote: Internerds or epiphony?
Both - I'm on fire today :wink:
Google gave 10,500 replies to Internerd, inc. Urban Dictionary:

1. internerd

fictitious proper noun;

:used as slang for "Internet"
:"Internet" being - connecting nerds

noun;

a person who is deemed to be on the Internet too much;
or, takes the Internet too seriously for the likes of others

proper noun;
"I spent all night browsing the Internerd."

noun;
"He was on the computer all night. He's such an Internerd."



15,700 for Epiphony, inc. Urban Dictionary:

1. epiphony

Variation on "epiphany." A sudden manifestation of the essence or meaning of something as a result of listening to a particular song. Often, the more obsure the lyrics or music is, the deeper the resulting epiphonistic experience.

"Dude, I had a total epiphony about my relationship with Riama after listening to that Radiohead song."


That's a no then

Posted: 18:23 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by Overtired and emotional
Yes, but what about offline?

Posted: 18:55 Thu 10 Jan 2008
by Alex Bridgeman
Overtired and emotional wrote:Yes, but what about offline?
Is that with or without a hyphen - or should it be an m-dash?