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Old white port query

Posted: 19:52 Sat 19 Mar 2016
by Paulliac
I have some old white port that I bought as a bit of a gamble at auction, which turned out to be very good. The label says Dow's extra dry white port, produced and bottled by Silva Cosens ltd. Is there a way to find out how old it is, perhaps by decoding the paper tag around the stopper, which says FE 040728 02? Also, should it be stored horizontally or upright, or doesn't it matter? And does white port normally evolve in the bottle?

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 23:33 Sat 19 Mar 2016
by LGTrotter
How nice to have had a good result from a bit of a punt.

If it has a selo (that bit of paper over the top with the number) you may be able to look it up. I think that Julian (JDAW) posted a link to a website somewhere on this site which could help (I will try to find it). Often the dating of such bottles is simply a case of casting a critical eye over it. If you post a picture of the bottles and labels someone might take a guess.

The decision to store it upright or not is not too critical. If you are intending to keep it for years then try laying it down, if it leaks then stand it up again. My rule of thumb is that if it has a 't' stopper (one of those things with a short cork and a plastic cap on it) then I stand it up and if it has a driven cork I lay it down. However others have said that they have had no problems with laying down wines with 't' stoppers.

I have too little experience of keeping white port, I doubt it would develop much and I have noticed others (Americans admittedly :wink: ) say that too long in the bottle can adversely affect the quality of white ports. Having said that, if you like it then do not let others persuade you it is wrong.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 07:37 Sun 20 Mar 2016
by Alex Bridgeman
Some pictures would be really good. Then we might be able to help you with dating the bottle by looking at its shape, label etc. As well as normal pictures of the bottle please include a picture of the base of the bottle where the maker's marks are moulded in.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 18:21 Mon 21 Mar 2016
by Paulliac
Here is the top label and main label.
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Many of the labels have disintegrated - this is one of the better ones.
I didn't succeed in photographing the base of the bottle properly but the letters / numbers are BA 793 and then either 86 (if read from the outside) or 98. The bottle is quite stocky in shape and heavy.

It's nothing very special but the wine has a fresh flowery aroma and a good smooth silky oily texture, and it's not completely dry. It would be interesting to buy a new one to compare.

Thanks for the comments about storage.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 19:46 Mon 21 Mar 2016
by Andy Velebil
What you have is a very basic white Port. Not meant to age at all. Not worth much. Current pricing in USD is about $12, give or take a couple bucks.

While probably still drinkable I would not hold out hope they are excellent....never has a basic white Port been excellent, just for reference. :lol:

I do hope you didn't pay much for these?

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 15:41 Thu 24 Mar 2016
by Paulliac
Thank Alan - I paid significantly less than that current pricing and was pleasantly surprised.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 17:10 Thu 24 Mar 2016
by DaveRL
White port of the not so expensive variety makes a more than decent summer drink with the addition of ice and a mixer, say tonic, chuck in some mint and fruit/cucumber. Fizzy water and Ginger and/or Elderflower cordials could also work well. Given these options, and the wine on its own tastes good, then I'm sure you bagged a bargain.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 21:26 Thu 24 Mar 2016
by Andy Velebil
DaveRL wrote:White port of the not so expensive variety makes a more than decent summer drink with the addition of ice and a mixer, say tonic, chuck in some mint and fruit/cucumber. Fizzy water and Ginger and/or Elderflower cordials could also work well. Given these options, and the wine on its own tastes good, then I'm sure you bagged a bargain.
+1
I like to use lemon in the summer for White Port and Tonic's for a slightly more refreshing kick. Never tried elderflower cordials...thanks for the tip.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 16:40 Sat 26 Mar 2016
by JB vintage
I would guess it is from the 1980s or 1990s. White non vintage is a very basic port. However, in my experience even the basic white ports develop very well and becomes much more attractive after a few years. I did buy a few whites made in the 1950s and 1960s and they still hold up very well.

Re: Old white port query

Posted: 19:45 Sat 26 Mar 2016
by Andy Velebil
I believe it was bottled in 1998 based on the code.