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Hello,

DrDirk is going to visit London towards the end of February and suggested a Vesuvio tasting would be nice after such a long period of time (last one was in February 2010).

When: 6pm on Wednesday 24th February 2016

Theme: Vesuvio

Venue: The Red Room, The Boot & Flogger, 10-20 Redcross Way, London SE1 1TA, tel +44 20 7407 1184 (streetmap.co.uk, bing, maps.google.co.uk).

People:

1. DrDirk (1989, 1990, 1992);
2. WPS (2000, 2009, 2010, 2012);
3. MPM (cash contribution);
4. JWEW (1994 and 1998);
5. CPR (1995 and 2005);
6. JDAW (cash contribution);
7. AHB (2007 and 2011);
8. Constandia (1997 and 2006 adopted from DRT);
9. PW (1996)
10. IDJ (1991)
11. BMHR (cash contribution)
12. AP (1999, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2013)
13. Dogget (cash contribution)
14. Industry Guest.

Reserves or Tentative List:

1. TC.

Vintages present:

1. 1989 (DrDirk);
2. 1990 (DrDirk);
3. 1991 (IDJ);
4. 1992 (DrDirk);
5. 1994 (JWEW);
6. 1995 (CPR);
7. 1996 (PW)
8. 1997 (Constandia);
9. 1998 (JWEW);
10. 1999 (AP);
11. 2000 (WPS);
12. 2001 (AP);
13. 2003 (AP);
14. 2004 (AP);
15. 2005 (CPR);
16. 2006 (Constandia);
17. 2007 (AHB);
18. 2008 (AP);
19. 2009 (WS1);
20. 2010 (WS1);
21. 2011 (AHB);
22. 2012 (WS1);
23. 2013 (AP).

Vintages absent:

• 1993 Not made
• 2002 Not made.

With some luck and interests we might be able to repeat a complete vertical.....

regards

WS1

Draft of the food order.

Draft of the placemats. (Do not print from this link. A few days before the tasting there will temporarily be a different link, to counteract problems with the caching of old drafts.)

A shipper I have had little opportunity to sample. Would love to attend please...can I confirm nearer the time what I bring? (=I have no Vesuvio right now, but that can be rectified in the next few months!)

flash_uk wrote:A shipper I have had little opportunity to sample. Would love to attend please...can I confirm nearer the time what I bring? (=I have no Vesuvio right now, but that can be rectified in the next few months!)

You are in!

Would like to attend if possible. I have '94 and '98 handy.

Yes please - I have 94, 95 and 98 if that helps

Wolfgang,

please correct the vintages of Vesuvio to 89, 90, 92.

Dirk

DrDirk wrote:Wolfgang,

please correct the vintages of Vesuvio to 89, 90, 92.

Dirk

corrected

JWEW and CPR 1 added.

Yes please!

Will have to check what I have.

Please also add JDAW.

Yes, definitely in for this- I still regret not forking out for the BBR vertical a few years ago. Is it intention to stick to 89-00? I can certainly offer up 91. If you ask nicely Tom may even open his 18l of 94!!

DRT wrote:Please also add JDAW.

Please add JDAW.

idj123 wrote:If you ask nicely Tom may even open his 18l of 94!!

No no no. I need that. Don’t tell Tom, but I’m going to buy it from him in a few years. Hush!

Please add me to the list.

Is it intended to invite a trade guest or will this be a TPF only affair?

I have '96 and '97 on hand and may be able to help others adopt, if required (which would be with '07, '10 or '11).

Add me in please. I have a few vintages I can supply - will advise!

Please add me also. I have '96, though would need to extract the case from storage.

I have 92, 94, 95, 96 and 00.

AHB wrote:Please add me to the list.

Is it intended to invite a trade guest or will this be a TPF only affair?

I have '96 and '97 on hand and may be able to help others adopt, if required (which would be with '07, '10 or '11).

You are in. I am easy about this; inviting a trade guest seems logical. The last Vesuvio with J Symmington was really good fun. DrDirk and I just thought we try to have such a tasting mark II.

regards

WS1

idj123 wrote:Yes, definitely in for this- I still regret not forking out for the BBR vertical a few years ago. Is it intention to stick to 89-00? I can certainly offer up 91. If you ask nicely Tom may even open his 18l of 94!!

Do not worry this time you will be able to close this gap!

Tasting in my eyes is about Quinta do Vesuvio ports (without Capella) 89 - 11. These could be up to 20 different Ports which could be just about the right width of a tasting for a Wednesday night...

regards

WS1

added DRT, JDAW, AHB, DJ, IDJ and Phil.

regards

WS1

Should a Symington be invited?

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Neither Wolfgang nor I were at that long-fabled event. Wolfgang: should Derek take charge of this?

I've just updated Wolfgang's list of people and vintages to see how we are doing in putting together a complete vertical.

Wolfgang - is IDN Dirk Niepoort or is it a mistype for IDJ (Ian Johns)?

WS1 wrote:People:

1. DrDirk (1989, 1990, 1992);
2. WPS (2000);
3. MPM (TBD);
4. JWEW (1994 or 1998);
5. CPR (1994 or 1995 or 1998);
6. DRT (TBD);
7. JDAW (will need to adopt or share costs);
8. AHB (1996, 1997 and for adoption 2007, 2010, 2011);
9. IDN (TBD);
10. DJ (1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000);
11. PW (1996)
12. IDJ (1991).

Vintages:

1. 1989 (DrDirk);
2. 1990 (DrDirk);
3. 1991 (IDJ)
4. 1992 (DrDirk, DJ);
5. 1993 Not made
6. 1994 (JWEW, CPR, DJ);
7. 1995 (CPR, DJ);
8. 1996 (AHB, DJ, PW)
9. 1997 (AHB)
10. 1998 (JWEW, CPR);
11. 1999
12. 2000 (WPS, DJ)
13. 2001
14. 2002 Not made
15. 2003
16. 2004
17. 2005
18. 2006 (AHB in magnum)
19. 2007 (AHB for adoption)
20. 2008
21. 2009
22. 2010 (AHB for adoption)
23. 2011 (AHB for adoption)
24. 2012.

We're doing well on the early vintages but have some big gaps on the later vintages. I also have 2006 in magnum which I could pull out of storage but have to warn people that this has had my feet immersed in the wine before it was bottled. With 22 vintages having been made and 12 people attending the maths says that each person should be contributing about 2 bottles. Wine Searcher has good availability on all the missing vintages at reasonable prices.

I think I have somewhere still a bt of 1999 Vesuvio. Also can I please reserve a place for a good friend of mine who attended the first Vesuvio tasting. Via him it also maybe possible to get to 08, 09 and 10.

regards

WS1

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Neither Wolfgang nor I were at that long-fabled event. Wolfgang: should Derek take charge of this?

Indeed! I am fine one of the Symmingtons to join our tasting but would not be keen us attempting to redo their event a decade ago. It should be a fun event imho and not an event with too much trade connection.

regards

WS1

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Neither Wolfgang nor I were at that long-fabled event. Wolfgang: should Derek take charge of this?

AHB organised the event at Vesuvio and I would suggest is a better option for this than I am.

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Neither Wolfgang nor I were at that long-fabled event. Wolfgang: should Derek take charge of this?

AHB organised the event at Vesuvio and I would suggest is a better option for this than I am.

I would say JDAW and me are happy to join to repeat the event at Vesuvio....

regards

WS1

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Neither Wolfgang nor I were at that long-fabled event. Wolfgang: should Derek take charge of this?

AHB organised the event at Vesuvio and I would suggest is a better option for this than I am.

If Wolfgang would like me to take on his idea and turn it into reality, I would be delighted to do so.

Draft of the placemats added to the first post. Do switch things on.

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Having attended this one and if I am able this would be a good excuse to come visit you all on that side of the pond. If room, please add me to tentative list and I'll sort out work to see if I can hopefully make it.


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jdaw1, in a PM to djewesbury, wrote:Please sir, do you recognise the fonts of “2007”, of “CAPELA”, of “Quinta do Vesuvio”, and of “VINTAGE PORT”.

My guess includes the likes of Times and Futura, but condensed and demi-bold.

Not Futura. Oh please. The words VINTAGE PORT are in some weight of Gill Sans (the typeface designed by the lovely family man who liked dogs). The main Quinta do Vesuvio type is in a variant of Bodoni or Didot but neither face has the elaborately moustachioed Q which we see here. I will return to you about CAPELA which seems to be the easiest to identify.

A message was sent to the Symingtons on this query. Their brand people may or may not respond.

By PM to jdaw1, I wrote:I'm not sure I like excluded years being given a space on the placemat.

Replying, jdaw1 wrote:Excluded in the sense of not made? I was thinking likewise. Excluded in the sense of our failure? We should own up to our failings.

AHB wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Neither Wolfgang nor I were at that long-fabled event. Wolfgang: should Derek take charge of this?

AHB organised the event at Vesuvio and I would suggest is a better option for this than I am.

If Wolfgang would like me to take on his idea and turn it into reality, I would be delighted to do so.

This is one of the things to do on my tick list; Vesuvio tasting on Vesuvio! So if this is possible and you can turn it into reality please do so. I am happy to help and attend!

regards

WS1

Andy Velebil wrote:

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited?

Yes. This would be a decade after Rupert Symington and his sons hosted some of the old guard to a complete Vesuvio line-up at the quinta. Perhaps we should establish another port trade age-old tradition by having the same hosts?

Having attended this one and if I am able this would be a good excuse to come visit you all on that side of the pond. If room, please add me to tentative list and I'll sort out work to see if I can hopefully make it.


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Hi Andy,

just to be sure; do you want to be put on the tentative list for February 24th or the Vesuvio on Vesivio tasting or both

regards

WS1

This is becoming very confusing. Are we all going to the branch of Davy's in the Douro Superior now? Have we told them how many glasses we need?

Unfortunately, when I volunteered to "turn it into reality" I meant the tasting on Feb 24 at a Davy's in London. If WS1 would like me to arrange this, I'd be happy to. Please just say so.

Having some minor experience at trying to arrange tastings in the Douro, it will be a long time before I volunteer to do that again!

Daniel,

all fine; no need to rebook the flights to London for the 24th of February. Just out of interest I thought there is not a Davys in the Douro Superior?

Am I wrong?



regards

Wolfgang

Should a Symington be invited to the Vesuvio tasting that is to be held in London on Wednesday 24th February 2016?

jdaw1 wrote:Should a Symington be invited to the Vesuvio tasting that is to be held in London on Wednesday 24th February 2016?

Yes. Should that Symington be Rupert? Who will do the inviting?

Please include me as I try to make it and would have all missing bottles.

Axel

WS1 wrote:Hi Andy,

just to be sure; do you want to be put on the tentative list for February 24th or the Vesuvio on Vesivio tasting or both

regards

WS1

Both

A message reserving the Red Room has been sent to the B&F.

Edit: booking done. We have the Red Room at the B&F.

Andy Velebil wrote:

WS1 wrote:Hi Andy,

just to be sure; do you want to be put on the tentative list for February 24th or the Vesuvio on Vesivio tasting or both

regards

WS1

Both

Done for the tasting on the 24th of Fenruary and will work on AHB to do another one on Vesuvio

Axel P wrote:Please include me as I try to make it and would have all missing bottles.

Axel

Done

Axel P wrote:Please include me as I try to make it and would have all missing bottles.

Including CV07 and CV11?

jdaw1 wrote:

Axel P wrote:Please include me as I try to make it and would have all missing bottles.

Including CV07 and CV11?

Naughty. WS1 said Capela was not included.

Ah, ok, let me know if wanted.

Best

Axel

Hi,

after checking with DrDirk the following conclusions have been made:

-no Capellas
-no Douro reds on the tasting itself or other side tractions; if some red wine is brought to have with the food this is fine
-a relaxed event with one of the Symmingtons very similar to the event in 2010 in the New Canendish club is intended

Followings JDAw's suggestion from the evening the Elliotts were in London can JDAW please take charge and contact Johnny Symmington? This is as close as we can get to a repeat of the 2010 tasting.

regards

WS1

WS1 wrote:can JDAW please take charge and contact Johnny Symmington?

Johnny is joining us for a tasting in September. Why don't we ask him then (perhaps at around 21:30?) if he would like to join us for a full vertical of Vesuvio five months hence?