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Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 12:19 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
9001 posts! (Milestone?)

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 14:09 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Hint: If your mother tongue had been Dutch, the flower, and the producer, would be fairly obvious, I think.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 16:26 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by PhilW
Clueless about the clue...
Niepoort '04 lbv?

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 16:47 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Hint: They are obviously good sailors. Their boat beat jdaw1’s boat in the 2016 race with about 4 metres.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 16:50 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Ok, final hint: Their boat beat jdaw1’s boat in the 2016 race with about 4 metres, according to the man himself.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 16:54 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Sorry, got a bit carried away and pressed button too quickly.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 17:34 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Rozès 2004 LBV?

Which is so obviously the answer — again — that I’m tempted just to charge into my question.

A few copies of Port Vintages were printed, as a draft. Numerous small improvements have since been found. And one large improvement: an index, or more accurately several indexes, were needed, and have been added. So in the Microsoft Word file have been added many ‘index this’ { XE … } entries. As of now, how many?

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 17:49 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Correct.

7

And as a bonus you can add me to the orderlist of your book, please.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 17:50 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Old Bridge wrote: 17:49 Sun 19 Mar 20177
How many index entries? Seven? Seven! Too small.

Old Bridge wrote: 17:49 Sun 19 Mar 2017And as a bonus you can add me to the orderlist of your book, please.
Thank you.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 18:25 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by CPR 1
224

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 18:26 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by flash_uk
1712 entries

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 18:40 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by PhilW
874

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 18:57 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
At scool I was often told to read the question thoroughly. I shall do that.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 18:59 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
CPR 1 wrote: 18:25 Sun 19 Mar 2017224
How many index entries? Two hundred and twenty-four? Two hundred and twenty-four! Too small.

PhilW wrote: 18:40 Sun 19 Mar 2017874
How many index entries? Eight hundred and seventy-four? Eight hundred and seventy-four! Too small.

flash_uk wrote: 18:26 Sun 19 Mar 20171712 entries
How many index entries? One thousand seven hundred and twelve? One thousand seven hundred and twelve! Too small.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:04 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
2874

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:05 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Old Bridge wrote: 19:04 Sun 19 Mar 20172874
Much better. The closest so far.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:15 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Doggett
4800?

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:19 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
3455

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:23 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Doggett wrote: 19:15 Sun 19 Mar 20174800?
Fourth-best of the guesses up to it.


Old Bridge wrote: 19:19 Sun 19 Mar 20173455
Second-best of the guesses up to it.

(The clues narrow it down to 872 possibilities.)

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:33 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
3112, but not my turn.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:36 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Old Bridge wrote: 19:33 Sun 19 Mar 20173112, but not my turn.
Not your turn.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:52 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Surely, I told you that.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:54 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Doggett
3066

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 19:55 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Doggett wrote: 19:54 Sun 19 Mar 20173066
Very helpfully to you, second-best of the guesses up to it.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 20:00 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by flash_uk
2927

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 20:24 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
3112

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 20:44 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by CPR 1
3002

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 20:55 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
flash_uk wrote: 20:00 Sun 19 Mar 20172927
Second-best of the guesses up to it.

Old Bridge wrote: 20:24 Sun 19 Mar 20173112
Fourth-best of the guesses up to it.

CPR 1 wrote: 20:44 Sun 19 Mar 20173002
Third-best of the guesses up to it.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 20:56 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
(Aside: are you flailing around or is somebody doing the logic? The guesses suggest flailing.)

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:03 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
2875

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:07 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Doggett
2902? And yes...just flailing around, but trying to apply some logic too/guess.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:10 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Old Bridge wrote: 21:03 Sun 19 Mar 20172875
Second. Much more cunning.

Doggett wrote: 21:07 Sun 19 Mar 20172902? And yes...just flailing around, but trying to apply some logic too/guess.
Third.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:18 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
2873

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:19 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Old Bridge wrote: 21:18 Sun 19 Mar 20172873
Even though it is the best guess so far, less cunning than I had hoped.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:27 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
2850

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:28 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
Ahh. not my turn.

I shall go to bed. We are an hour ahead of you.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:31 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
I am going to bed soon as well. A few more guesses might help somebody post some logic, to lessen the flailing.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:48 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by CPR 1
2706

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:51 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
CPR 1 wrote: 21:48 Sun 19 Mar 20172706
It being the sixth-best might seem rubbish. But it greatly narrows the search space.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 22:36 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by flash_uk
2790

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 22:44 Sun 19 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
flash_uk wrote: 22:36 Sun 19 Mar 20172790
Just in time — new best.

Good night.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 05:37 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
2850

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 10:50 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by PhilW
2585
(based on logic; I may be one off).

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:11 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
Old Bridge wrote: 05:37 Mon 20 Mar 20172850
New best.
PhilW wrote: 10:50 Mon 20 Mar 20172585
(based on logic; I may be one off).
Logic is over-rated, Mr. 11th-Best. I’m disappointed.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:12 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by flash_uk
2830

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 21:30 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by Old Bridge
2823

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 22:22 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
flash_uk wrote: 21:12 Mon 20 Mar 20172830
The book has several indexes, so the entries each need an index identifier. Word has no built-in means of knowing whether any of these have been mis-typed, so I wrote a script.

Code: Select all

' © 2017 Julian D. A. Wiseman, contactable via www.jdawiseman.com
' Copying and distribution of this file, with or without modification, are permitted in any medium without royalty
' provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved. This file is offered as-is, without any warranty.

Sub FieldIdentifiers()
	Dim i, j, k, numDifferentIdentifiers, iIndentifierCount(1 To 100) As Integer
	Dim thisIdent, strIdentifier(1 To 100), ans As String
	Dim fld As Field
	Dim thisIdentExists As Boolean

	numDifferentIdentifiers = 0

	For Each fld In ActiveDocument.Fields
		If fld.Type = wdFieldIndexEntry Then
			i = InStr(1, fld.Code.Text, "\f", 1)
			If i = 0 Then
				MsgBox "No \f in “" & fld.Code.Text & "”", 0, "XE missing \f"
			Else
				thisIdent = Mid(fld.Code.Text, i + 3, Len(fld.Code.Text) - i - 3)
				thisIdentExists = False
				For j = 1 To numDifferentIdentifiers
					If thisIdent = strIdentifier(j) Then
						iIndentifierCount(j) = 1 + iIndentifierCount(j)
						thisIdentExists = True
						Exit For
					End If  ' thisIdent = strIdentifier(j)
				Next j
				If Not (thisIdentExists) Then
					numDifferentIdentifiers = 1 + numDifferentIdentifiers
					strIdentifier(numDifferentIdentifiers) = thisIdent
					iIndentifierCount(numDifferentIdentifiers) = 1
				End If  ' Not(thisIdentExists)
			End If	' i=0
		End If  ' wdFieldIndexEntry
	Next fld
	' Sort, not efficiently as done once and list not long
	For i = 1 To numDifferentIdentifiers - 1: For j = i + 1 To numDifferentIdentifiers
		If strIdentifier(j) < strIdentifier(i) Then
			ans = strIdentifier(j): strIdentifier(j) = strIdentifier(i): strIdentifier(i) = ans  ' ans is temp variable
			k = iIndentifierCount(j): iIndentifierCount(j) = iIndentifierCount(i): iIndentifierCount(i) = k  ' k is temp variable
		End If
	Next j: Next i
	ans = "": k = 0
	For j = 1 To numDifferentIdentifiers
		k = k + iIndentifierCount(j)
		' In next line the ‘2’ is approximate, being relative width of digit and space
		ans = ans & Space(2 * (Len(Format(iIndentifierCount(1), "#,##0")) - Len(Format(iIndentifierCount(j), "#,##0")))) _
		& Format(iIndentifierCount(j), "#,##0") & " * " & strIdentifier(j) & vbNewLine
	Next j
	ans = ans & vbNewLine & "Total = " & k
	MsgBox ans, 0, "Frequencies of \f (and subsequent) parameters in XE index entries"
End Sub  ' FieldIdentifiers
Which results in:
Image
Mike’s turn.

Perhaps henceforth questions of the form ‘how many …?’ could have answers in the form ‘nth-best guess’.



Old Bridge wrote: 21:30 Mon 20 Mar 20172823
Second-best of the guesses up to it.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 23:13 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote: 21:11 Mon 20 Mar 2017
PhilW wrote: 10:50 Mon 20 Mar 20172585
(based on logic; I may be one off).
Logic is over-rated, Mr. 11th-Best. I’m disappointed.
Me too. Stupid calculation error (mis-read/typed an 8 for a 3). At the time (of Simon's 4800 guess) we knew that the answer was >2583, and <2837 (a smaller range than you indicated), unfortunately a typo led me to <2587 instead of 2837, which was less helpful.
{Sackcloth}

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 23:32 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by jdaw1
PhilW wrote: 23:13 Mon 20 Mar 2017(a smaller range than you indicated)
Sackcloth and ashes for me too: I realised after that I was using the easy high-yield information, but not all the information.

I can’t yet see what is the optimal guessing strategy.

Re: One quiz at a time

Posted: 23:38 Mon 20 Mar 2017
by flash_uk
I'm staying in a hotel tonight. Which chain?