New York, Tue 11th December 2007
Picture of Vesuvio bottles, 1990, 1991, 1994
Is there a code in the placement of the little black dot? Or is it just poor printing?
- Alex Bridgeman
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It looks to me as though it is poor printing. From looking at your pictures, it also seems to be that the location of the initial Q also varies from label to label. Who knows...
As for decanting, I still have some of this left almost exactly 48 hours after decanting and it is stonking. The aftertaste is just unbelievably long although the nose is a little less developed than last night. The midpalate complexity is certainly still with you and the tannins are softer.
My suggestion as to preferred decanting time would depend on the Group's preference for the obviousness of the tannins - if you like your port "grippy" then decant for 19 hours. If you like your tannins more resolved then decant for 39 hours. If you're serving this to me then 39 hours please.
I've timed tasting notes for the 1991 from September 2006 and would recommend that this is also decanted for 39 hours (I tasted it at 36 and preferred it toi the way it tasted after 12 hours) but I have only ever tasted the 1990 once. However, given that this was made from the same grapes by the same winemaking team as the 1991 I would be tempted to decant them all 39 hours in advance of the tasting.
And all I can say is, you are going to really enjoy that Vesuvio 94, and the other two are also pretty good ports.
Have fun folks.
Alex
As for decanting, I still have some of this left almost exactly 48 hours after decanting and it is stonking. The aftertaste is just unbelievably long although the nose is a little less developed than last night. The midpalate complexity is certainly still with you and the tannins are softer.
My suggestion as to preferred decanting time would depend on the Group's preference for the obviousness of the tannins - if you like your port "grippy" then decant for 19 hours. If you like your tannins more resolved then decant for 39 hours. If you're serving this to me then 39 hours please.
I've timed tasting notes for the 1991 from September 2006 and would recommend that this is also decanted for 39 hours (I tasted it at 36 and preferred it toi the way it tasted after 12 hours) but I have only ever tasted the 1990 once. However, given that this was made from the same grapes by the same winemaking team as the 1991 I would be tempted to decant them all 39 hours in advance of the tasting.
And all I can say is, you are going to really enjoy that Vesuvio 94, and the other two are also pretty good ports.
Have fun folks.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Thirty hours works for me
Shame about Steph. Thirty hours works for me. (And thanks for bringing both bottles.)
Ramos Pinto Quinta da Ervamoira 1994
Eric Duprey has told me that he will be bringing a Ramos Pinto Quinta da Ervamoira 1994.
Placemats updated.
Placemats updated.
All three double-decanted
All three double-decanted.
1994: very purple.
1991: quite purple.
1990: sensible red.
I have a meeting today at which I just can’t smell of port, really can’t, so haven’t sampled.
1994: very purple.
1991: quite purple.
1990: sensible red.
I have a meeting today at which I just can’t smell of port, really can’t, so haven’t sampled.
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Pleased to report the Vesuvio 95 is a good bottle.
No chunks on this bottle, very little sediments.
Milk chocolate, all spice, slight raisiny nose. Very very smooth going down with no hint of bite sweet taste with a slight bitter aftertaste. but no balance of acidity there. Dark opaque purple.
Can't wait to try this one tomorrow.
Churchill 94
Lotsa chunks caught in the muslin. Big raisin sized chunks.
clear garnet with a slight browning on the edges, much better legs then the vesuvio. muted slightly medicinal/mint nose, hint of anise. A very nice balance of acidity, again very smooth going down. with a slight burnt woody finish.
Both opened at 3:30pm on monday.
Perfect fill levels on both, no hint of cork on either.
Can't wait to see you guys tomorrow!
No chunks on this bottle, very little sediments.
Milk chocolate, all spice, slight raisiny nose. Very very smooth going down with no hint of bite sweet taste with a slight bitter aftertaste. but no balance of acidity there. Dark opaque purple.
Can't wait to try this one tomorrow.
Churchill 94
Lotsa chunks caught in the muslin. Big raisin sized chunks.
clear garnet with a slight browning on the edges, much better legs then the vesuvio. muted slightly medicinal/mint nose, hint of anise. A very nice balance of acidity, again very smooth going down. with a slight burnt woody finish.
Both opened at 3:30pm on monday.
Perfect fill levels on both, no hint of cork on either.
Can't wait to see you guys tomorrow!
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11 Dec 2007: summary
Just arrived home. TNs tomorrow. But Vesuvio ’94 & ’95 fantastic. V92 simple: strawberries, perhaps. V91 foul. Duff Gordon 94 foul. Croft ’94 great. Churchill ’94 good initially, but then deteriorated. The Ramos Pinto single quinta controversial: I thought OK, others hated.
Some people didn’t show, so lots of port for few of us. There are pictures, but tomorrow, in the review.
Some people didn’t show, so lots of port for few of us. There are pictures, but tomorrow, in the review.
5 courageous souls 8 massive bottles.
A great time all around. Thank you Julian for setting up the tasting.
We did a pretty good job packing away 5 1/2 bottles of port with Renee clearly leading the way.
TN in the TN section.
Wines of the night:
To drink now:
1. Vesuvio 95
2. Vesuvio 94
3. Croft 94
To Hold onto:
1. Vesuvio 94
2. Vesuvio 95
3. Croft 94
A great time all around. Thank you Julian for setting up the tasting.
We did a pretty good job packing away 5 1/2 bottles of port with Renee clearly leading the way.
TN in the TN section.
Wines of the night:
To drink now:
1. Vesuvio 95
2. Vesuvio 94
3. Croft 94
To Hold onto:
1. Vesuvio 94
2. Vesuvio 95
3. Croft 94