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Can I vote for Owen?
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Go on then. But then there has to be an award for 'best newcomer', for you.
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I'd like to thank my parents, my wife, my son and my lifestyle coach for their continued love and support, I couldn't have done it without them.
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The proper Ashes series starts on Friday. Perhaps the England women's team could play a warm up match against the men's team and see how much of a humiliating margin they could win by.
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One thing is certain. I won't be listening to the pyjama games.
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Spinach is bad for you. Just don’t. If you eat spinach, you lose 5-0. Pork pies are the way forward.The Telegraph, on 5th January 2014, in an article entitled [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10433915/The-Ashes-2013-14-England-ridiculed-for-sending-82-page-list-of-goji-berry-and-quinoa-catering-demands.html]The Ashes 2013-14: England ridiculed for sending 82-page list of goji berry and quinoa catering demands[/url], wrote:England have given Australia ideal sledging material for the Ashes after sending an 82-page list of their players’ catering demands to each Test match ground during their defence of the urn.
Andy Flower’s men opened themselves up to ridicule by circulating documents containing nearly 200 different types of meal and beverage ahead of the first Test in Brisbane, which begins on Nov 21.
The catering options, designed by Chris Rosimus, performance nutritionist of the England and Wales Cricket Board, range from ‟mini mushroom and spinach bhajis” to ‟quinoa with roasted butternut squash, apricot and parsley”.
A selection of breakfast, snack, lunch, tea and post-match options are specified for each of the five days of a Test, with the ECB guide stating that it is ‟essential” that all meals are cooked as per the chef’s guide.
Among the 194 dishes and drinks are ‟piri-piri breaded tofu with tomato salsa”, a ‟quinoa and cranberry breakfast bar” and ‟mungbean curry with spinach”.
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I laughed heartily when I read this article earlier today. I can't argue with JDAW's conclusion; nor I'm sure would Ashes-winning captain Mike Gatting. Or Melton Mowbray enthusiast Jonathan Agnew.jdaw1 wrote:Pork pies are the way forward.
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I just checked the scorecard and report for the first ODI. Seems we batted well with the obvious exception of Cook: a nice 50 from Morgan and 79 from Ballance. This time the bowling and fielding were the problem.
We can't even be consistent!
We can't even be consistent!
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One day internationals? Next thing you'll be talking about footer.
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I would like to point out that England can play cricket - but it is the England women who play like men and England men who play like a bunch of girls.
The one-off women's test was pretty good stuff to listen to. England managed a very nervous 201, batting first and taking most of day 1 before closing the day with Australia 9-2. Three wickets in the morning session had Australia 37-5 but good 6th and 7th innings partnerships eventually had Australia 207 all out towards the end of day 2. At the close of play on day 2, England were 18-3.
Good 4th (54 runs) and 6th (85 runs) wicket partnerships from England eventually saw England all out for 190. Australia got off to a good start, scoring 28 before losing their first wicket but then 3 wickets for 0 runs when the score was on 40 decimated Australia's middle order, leaving them on 57-5 at close of play on day 3. It was another 37 runs before England got the 6th wicket, but then Australia quickly subsided thanks to some terrific bowling from Shrubsole who got three late wickets and gave England a 61 run victory in the end.
It was a great match to listen to. Swinging rapidly one way and then the other, much more fun that the tedious one-sidedness that the arrogant England men's team gave us.
I also like the format of the women's ashes series - 1 test, 3 ODIs and 3 T20s with 6 points for the test and 2 points for the winner of the one day games. England women need to win just two of the remaining games to retain their Ashes. Their next game is 19th Jan.
The one-off women's test was pretty good stuff to listen to. England managed a very nervous 201, batting first and taking most of day 1 before closing the day with Australia 9-2. Three wickets in the morning session had Australia 37-5 but good 6th and 7th innings partnerships eventually had Australia 207 all out towards the end of day 2. At the close of play on day 2, England were 18-3.
Good 4th (54 runs) and 6th (85 runs) wicket partnerships from England eventually saw England all out for 190. Australia got off to a good start, scoring 28 before losing their first wicket but then 3 wickets for 0 runs when the score was on 40 decimated Australia's middle order, leaving them on 57-5 at close of play on day 3. It was another 37 runs before England got the 6th wicket, but then Australia quickly subsided thanks to some terrific bowling from Shrubsole who got three late wickets and gave England a 61 run victory in the end.
It was a great match to listen to. Swinging rapidly one way and then the other, much more fun that the tedious one-sidedness that the arrogant England men's team gave us.
I also like the format of the women's ashes series - 1 test, 3 ODIs and 3 T20s with 6 points for the test and 2 points for the winner of the one day games. England women need to win just two of the remaining games to retain their Ashes. Their next game is 19th Jan.
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Excellent summary, and a perfect case made for the importance of women's cricket. Thanks Alex.
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You're sounding a bit like Piers Morgan...AHB wrote:I would like to point out that England can play cricket - but it is the England women who play like men and England men who play like a bunch of girls.
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Michael Skapinker of the Financial Times, in an comment entitled [url=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/03640c8e-7d0a-11e3-81dd-00144feabdc0.html]Would you want Kevin Pietersen in your team?[/url], wrote:Would you want Kevin Pietersen in your team?
How to deal with talented but awkward people who don’t abide by the rules
Kevin Pietersen, who plays cricket for England, is difficult, self-regarding, occasionally irresponsible and, in the right frame of mind, outrageously talented.
He was the best batsman in England’s recent disastrous series against Australia. But as they rebuild their team, England’s managers have to decide whether they have had enough of him.
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Is the 6th Test about to begin?
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Ha. Sadly no.DRT wrote:Is the 6th Test about to begin?
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I am going to continue to flog this dead horse but I can't quite believe that the noise from the England set up is that while everything has to be different they are going to be doing it with they same people.
Harrumph!
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We nearly nearly won this one.
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Oh dear, England snatch defeat from jaws of victory.
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The next one.
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Whilst watching the highlights from the ODI I noticed Clarke deliberately turning his collar up. I am not sure this should be allowed to pass unremarked.
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Console yourself over England men's abysmal performance by listening to England women's first ODI. Ii's on at 11pm tonight.
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I hope they have got Rachael Heyhoe Flint in the Geoffrey Boycott role for commentary.
I have always found it an intensely amusing name.
I have always found it an intensely amusing name.
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It is all over. Daniel and Owen, you can come out from behind the couch.
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Oops! Sorry, I thought it was a three game series but there are two more devastating defeats to come.
As you were, gentlemen.
As you were, gentlemen.
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But they've lost the series.DRT wrote:Oops! Sorry, I thought it was a three game series but there are two more devastating defeats to come.
As you were, gentlemen.
But who knows, maybe we'll win one of the 411 T20 games..
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I've just listened to an interview that suggests three of the key players in the Australian side are not going to Perth, so perhaps a win against the B team is on the cards?
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Who cares? I mean, really, who cares who wins one of these pointless pyjama games? One-day games are marginally more meaningful than the shameless trash that is T20 but I still can't get myself that worked up about who gets more runs in 50 overs. I'm more concerned about whether England Women can win the Ashes now.DRT wrote:I've just listened to an interview that suggests three of the key players in the Australian side are not going to Perth, so perhaps a win against the B team is on the cards?
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Perhaps a little harsh. I understand traditionalism and it is the main reason why I despise Pink Port, but its apparent success in introducing Port to a wider audience has opened my mind to the idea that sometimes it is good to compromise in order to grow.djewesbury wrote:One-day games are marginally more meaningful than the shameless trash that is T20 but I still can't get myself that worked up about who gets more runs in 50 overs.
By way of example, as I alluded to at the beginning of this thread, I was completely dumbfounded by and disinterested in cricket until Ben and Alex introduced me to the game through a series of T20 and ODIs at Lord's and the Oval. Those experiences in the short-form of the game resulted in me watching some of last summer's Ashes series and then staying up until 4am on a number of occasions to watch the series down under. I strongly suspect I am not alone in having my interest sparked late in life by a format that is easy to understand and that doesn't take five days to reach an outcome.
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HARUMPH!
Oh just give me some Tramadol and let me sulk about how rubbish we are.
Oh just give me some Tramadol and let me sulk about how rubbish we are.
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I am with Derek in that mighty oaks from little acorns grow, and with Daniel that giving up on timeless tests was the start of the collapse of civilisation.
I couldn't bear to follow the cricket, this series needs to be painlessly destroyed. I hate to see them suffer.
Can't resist adding that Cook and the management team seem to have some 'issues to resolve' with the players.
I couldn't bear to follow the cricket, this series needs to be painlessly destroyed. I hate to see them suffer.
Can't resist adding that Cook and the management team seem to have some 'issues to resolve' with the players.
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I disagree. That happened when this was invented and given to children.LGTrotter wrote:giving up on timeless tests was the start of the collapse of civilisation.
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Just a reminder that the second women's ODI starts tonight. Commentary on 5-live sports extra from 3:05am.
If England win then they retain the Ashes.
If England win then they retain the Ashes.
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Is there just one Ashes? Or is there one for men, one for women, one for U20 (or whatever it is), etc?AHB wrote:If England win then they retain the Ashes.
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There is really only one, which is the men's series over five, five-day test matches. They just made another one up to stop the girls moaning. I think the Australian's wanted to call it The Sheila's Cup, which would have been more appropriate.Glenn E. wrote:Is there just one Ashes? Or is there one for men, one for women, one for U20 (or whatever it is), etc?AHB wrote:If England win then they retain the Ashes.
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I had a dream that the England (men) cricket team won a match against Australia. Albeit an irrelevant one.
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...and I heard that Cook now thinks he had a dream where he suggested it might be a good idea to have some changes in the England set-up. Obviously no longer required now that everything is fixed.
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It used to be 6 test series. Another retrograde step.DRT wrote:There is really only one, which is the men's series over five, five-day test matches. They just made another one up to stop the girls moaning. I think the Australian's wanted to call it The Sheila's Cup, which would have been more appropriate.Glenn E. wrote:Is there just one Ashes? Or is there one for men, one for women, one for U20 (or whatever it is), etc?AHB wrote:If England win then they retain the Ashes.
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SHOCK! England lose game of cricket that they could have won! 6 required from 3 balls and they lose their last wicket.
I bet they can't wait for the meaningless T20s!
I bet they can't wait for the meaningless T20s!
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I bet they can, they just lost the first one. Meaningless.djewesbury wrote:I bet they can't wait for the meaningless T20s!
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ENGLAND WIN ASHES!!!LGTrotter wrote:I bet they can, they just lost the first one. Meaningless.djewesbury wrote:I bet they can't wait for the meaningless T20s!
Well done Charlotte Edwards. Clearly the best England team out there.
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Debate: England Men vs England Women. Who would win right now?djewesbury wrote:ENGLAND WIN ASHES!!!LGTrotter wrote:I bet they can, they just lost the first one. Meaningless.djewesbury wrote:I bet they can't wait for the meaningless T20s!
Well done Charlotte Edwards. Clearly the best England team out there.
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I think I know the answer. And I think the result would put Derek's earlier comment about keeping the girls from moaning into perspective!benread wrote:Debate: England Men vs England Women. Who would win right now?djewesbury wrote:ENGLAND WIN ASHES!!!LGTrotter wrote:I bet they can, they just lost the first one. Meaningless.djewesbury wrote:I bet they can't wait for the meaningless T20s!
Well done Charlotte Edwards. Clearly the best England team out there.
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Just watching and enjoying the Ashes highlights.
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Didn't expect to write that did you?LGTrotter wrote:Just watching and enjoying the Ashes highlights.
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No perhaps not. Being wrong is ok.djewesbury wrote:Didn't expect to write that did you?LGTrotter wrote:Just watching and enjoying the Ashes highlights.
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Sure is.
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Has Derek fallen down a well or something?
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Derek is alive. But he is in London, poor soul.LGTrotter wrote:Has Derek fallen down a well or something?
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Ashley Giles???? Noooooo
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