Port for sale at auction
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Port for sale at auction
I'm creating a new thread for listing port for sale at auctions (online, catalog, or otherwise) that folks find interesting. I am not suggesting that we in any way collude on bidding, etc, but of course if two people converse quietly on splitting up a mixed case or the like, that's their business.
(I thought we had this thread, but couldn't find it in the past year's worth of posts)
(I thought we had this thread, but couldn't find it in the past year's worth of posts)
- SushiNorth
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Re: Port for sale at auction
Some 60's and 70's have been showing up on WineCommune. I forgot to keep an eye on them last time and a 1970 Warre slipped by at $62 (though I suspect their proxy bid was much higher, given that other bottles were going at 140-150). Right now it's 70 Warre and 70 Dow and they've piqued my interest.
Re: Port for sale at auction
I don't trust wine commune at all for these types of 1 bottle transactions.
Chances are, it's someone who found a deal some place, most likely not properly stored
and decided to pawn it off on wine commune.
Chances are, it's someone who found a deal some place, most likely not properly stored
and decided to pawn it off on wine commune.
Disclosure: Distributor of Quevedo wines and Quinta do Gomariz
Re: Port for sale at auction
Good idea to have such a thread a counterpart to Port for sale by retailer.
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Re: Port for sale at auction
Ah, so here's the WineCommune trick -- I only buy them when JJBuckley is the seller. You know its coming from their store, and can simply get it at a discount with some shrewd bidding.g-man wrote:I don't trust wine commune at all for these types of 1 bottle transactions.
Chances are, it's someone who found a deal some place, most likely not properly stored
and decided to pawn it off on wine commune.
Re: Port for sale at auction
How would people feel about having UK and US threads seperately? Most of us are only looking for port in one location or the other!
I do like both threads though.
I do like both threads though.
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
Re: Port for sale at auction
Please invite JJBuckley to join and post offers in this thread.SushiNorth wrote:Ah, so here's the WineCommune trick -- I only buy them when JJBuckley is the seller. You know its coming from their store, and can simply get it at a discount with some shrewd bidding.
Re: Port for sale at auction
Brentwood Wine on 25th March 2009, including the likes of Vargellas 1967 (est: $55 to $75) and Cachão 1967 (est: $45 to $65).
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Re: Port for sale at auction
(just won some Fonseca 1985 and a 1977 Warre)
JJBuckley (reliable) has listed the following items on WineCommune, bidding closes next sunday evening. There are rarely big enough piggybanks to cover the $$s these ports should command, and so I suspect there will be bargains about.
1985 Warre
1985 Taylor Fladgate
1977 Fonseca
1963 Fonseca
1977 Sandeman
1963 Sandeman
1985 Graham
2000 Graham
1977 Dow
1977 Taylor Fladgate
1963 Fonseca
1963 Warre
1983 Cockburn
1963 Warre
1963 Warre
1985 Graham
1977 Fonseca
1982 Sandeman
1963 Sandeman
1982 Sandeman
1963 Warre
1977 Fonseca
1985 Fonseca
1977 Fonseca
1985 Warre
1985 Graham
1963 Warre
1977 Taylor Fladgate
1977 Graham
1963 Sandeman
1977 Dow
1977 Graham
(Multiple listings due to bottle lots of differing condition)
JJBuckley charges $3.50 per lot (multiple bottles from a dutch lot are counted as one lot), plus 1% insurance, plus shipping of about $19 +$2/bottle.
JJBuckley (reliable) has listed the following items on WineCommune, bidding closes next sunday evening. There are rarely big enough piggybanks to cover the $$s these ports should command, and so I suspect there will be bargains about.
1985 Warre
1985 Taylor Fladgate
1977 Fonseca
1963 Fonseca
1977 Sandeman
1963 Sandeman
1985 Graham
2000 Graham
1977 Dow
1977 Taylor Fladgate
1963 Fonseca
1963 Warre
1983 Cockburn
1963 Warre
1963 Warre
1985 Graham
1977 Fonseca
1982 Sandeman
1963 Sandeman
1982 Sandeman
1963 Warre
1977 Fonseca
1985 Fonseca
1977 Fonseca
1985 Warre
1985 Graham
1963 Warre
1977 Taylor Fladgate
1977 Graham
1963 Sandeman
1977 Dow
1977 Graham
(Multiple listings due to bottle lots of differing condition)
JJBuckley charges $3.50 per lot (multiple bottles from a dutch lot are counted as one lot), plus 1% insurance, plus shipping of about $19 +$2/bottle.
Re: Port for sale at auction
Zachy's april 3
880 1 Quinta do Noval Nacional 1985 750ml $150 - 250
1498 12 Fonseca 1985 750ml $550 - 800
1785 2 Cockburn 1927 750ml $1,100 - 1,700
1255 7 Mixed Lot Mixed $500 - 750
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1963
bottom neck, generic label, fully stamped wax capsule, imported by Wine Warehouse, Los Angeles
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1970
bottom neck
1 750ml Dow 1985
bottom neck
1 750ml Gould Campbell 1985
into neck, wine-stained label
1 750ml Graham 1985
bottom neck
2 750ml Taylor Port 1985
one bottom neck, one very top shoulder
1784 6 Mixed Lot Mixed $1,400 - 2,400
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Sandeman 1911
upper shoulder, bin-soiled label, shipped by BH. Loeb & Co. Ltd., British bottled by John Sanson & Son, Leicester, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman Port 1945
one into neck, one bottom neck, one nicked label, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
1 750ml Sandeman Port 1946
into neck, bin-soiled label, shipped by Avery's, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman 1955
one into neck, one bottom neck, two nicked labels, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
880 1 Quinta do Noval Nacional 1985 750ml $150 - 250
1498 12 Fonseca 1985 750ml $550 - 800
1785 2 Cockburn 1927 750ml $1,100 - 1,700
1255 7 Mixed Lot Mixed $500 - 750
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1963
bottom neck, generic label, fully stamped wax capsule, imported by Wine Warehouse, Los Angeles
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1970
bottom neck
1 750ml Dow 1985
bottom neck
1 750ml Gould Campbell 1985
into neck, wine-stained label
1 750ml Graham 1985
bottom neck
2 750ml Taylor Port 1985
one bottom neck, one very top shoulder
1784 6 Mixed Lot Mixed $1,400 - 2,400
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Sandeman 1911
upper shoulder, bin-soiled label, shipped by BH. Loeb & Co. Ltd., British bottled by John Sanson & Son, Leicester, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman Port 1945
one into neck, one bottom neck, one nicked label, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
1 750ml Sandeman Port 1946
into neck, bin-soiled label, shipped by Avery's, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman 1955
one into neck, one bottom neck, two nicked labels, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
Disclosure: Distributor of Quevedo wines and Quinta do Gomariz
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Re: Port for sale at auction
Would it make sense to place some low bids on Fonseca and Warre 1963? It would definitely make our offline complete.
SushiNorth wrote:(just won some Fonseca 1985 and a 1977 Warre)
JJBuckley (reliable) has listed the following items on WineCommune, bidding closes next sunday evening. There are rarely big enough piggybanks to cover the $$s these ports should command, and so I suspect there will be bargains about.
1985 Warre
1985 Taylor Fladgate
1977 Fonseca
1963 Fonseca
1977 Sandeman
1963 Sandeman
1985 Graham
2000 Graham
1977 Dow
1977 Taylor Fladgate
1963 Fonseca
1963 Warre
1983 Cockburn
1963 Warre
1963 Warre
1985 Graham
1977 Fonseca
1982 Sandeman
1963 Sandeman
1982 Sandeman
1963 Warre
1977 Fonseca
1985 Fonseca
1977 Fonseca
1985 Warre
1985 Graham
1963 Warre
1977 Taylor Fladgate
1977 Graham
1963 Sandeman
1977 Dow
1977 Graham
(Multiple listings due to bottle lots of differing condition)
JJBuckley charges $3.50 per lot (multiple bottles from a dutch lot are counted as one lot), plus 1% insurance, plus shipping of about $19 +$2/bottle.
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Re: Port for sale at auction
I would not recommend bothering to bid until the weekend, and you will want to be online when the auction concludes as there is lots of 1$ upping at the last. If bidding actually showed your username in the bid history, it would be worth it simply so that we knew who was "in it," but bidders are anonymized.RonnieRoots wrote:Would it make sense to place some low bids on Fonseca and Warre 1963? It would definitely make our offline complete.
Re: Port for sale at auction
Josh: please would you take charge of this. Bid something low but more than fire-sale at whatever time you deem best. Costs will be reimbursed.
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Re: Port for sale at auction
RonnieRoots wrote:Would it make sense to place some low bids on Fonseca and Warre 1963? It would definitely make our offline complete.
What should be the maximum spent on the bottle, not including shipping? Consider what your alternative sources are for the bottles, and best-price-elsewhere. I'll bid up to that # (less the $3.50 service fee).jdaw1 wrote:Josh: please would you take charge of this. Bid something low but more than fire-sale at whatever time you deem best. Costs will be reimbursed.
Here's where they are at, now... This is unusually high, 6 days before the end of the auction, and there are a number of bigger names that I haven't seen bidding since last spring (the traditional port sell-off)
1963 Fonseca (fill into neck) $111
1963 Fonseca (fill base-neck, cracked capsule) $91
1963 Warre (fill into neck, sign of slight seepage) $72
1963 Warre (fill into neck, capsule is nicked and slightly corroded) $72
1963 Warre (fill midneck) $72
1963 Warre (fill into neck, capsule is slightly corroded) $22
1963 Warre (fill high neck) $28
Re: Port for sale at auction
The 63 Fonseca never goes below 150 (including tax/shipping) retail that I've seen in the states.SushiNorth wrote:
What should be the maximum spent on the bottle, not including shipping? Consider what your alternative sources are for the bottles, and best-price-elsewhere. I'll bid up to that # (less the $3.50 service fee).
Here's where they are at, now... This is unusually high, 6 days before the end of the auction, and there are a number of bigger names that I haven't seen bidding since last spring (the traditional port sell-off)
1963 Fonseca (fill into neck) $111
1963 Fonseca (fill base-neck, cracked capsule) $91
1963 Warre (fill into neck, sign of slight seepage) $72
1963 Warre (fill into neck, capsule is nicked and slightly corroded) $72
1963 Warre (fill midneck) $72
1963 Warre (fill into neck, capsule is slightly corroded) $22
1963 Warre (fill high neck) $28
The 63 warre i have no idea but can't possibly be more then the fonseca.
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Re: Port for sale at auction
beware of lurkers here who may outbid you by $1
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Port for sale at auction
Oporto bottled W63 has a high incidence of leakers and/or poor levels - good fills are something of a rarity. UK bottlings are not often seen.
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Re: Port for sale at auction
how bout you wait for a minute left. and sneak in a bid that's 2$ higher, so teh 1$ highers can't get in =)DRT wrote:beware of lurkers here who may outbid you by $1
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Re: Port for sale at auction
LOL! You have to bid up to your absolute maximum. It'll auto-bid in increments for you. If they bid $1 more, that was $1 more than you were willing to spend. Sucks, but cut the losses. I lost a few bottles last night that way. The tough part was that I needed to be sure I got my big lot (the 85 Fonseca) to fill out enough of the case to make shipping worth it. I delayed the two 1-bottle lots before it by bidding in $1 increments just before each auction closed (thus extending it 5 minutes). Once I had the Fonseca's, i pursued others more vigorously.DRT wrote:beware of lurkers here who may outbid you by $1
I didn't let anything go until it was no longer economically logical; no-one got a great deal if i was bidding.
Re: Port for sale at auction
I was trying to caution against discussing maximum bids here as others will then know what you will bid as your max, and perhaps bid $1 more.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Port for sale at auction
We need these: bid at least $25,000 each. (Ha! That’ll teach ’em.)
Re: Port for sale at auction
Some interesting stuff at the upcomign zachy's
Lot 1784 6 Mixed Lot Mixed $1,400 - 2,400
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Sandeman 1911
upper shoulder, bin-soiled label, shipped by BH. Loeb & Co. Ltd., British bottled by John Sanson & Son, Leicester, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman Port 1945
one into neck, one bottom neck, one nicked label, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
1 750ml Sandeman Port 1946
into neck, bin-soiled label, shipped by Avery's, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman 1955
one into neck, one bottom neck, two nicked labels, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
Lot 1731 12 Warres 1977 750ml $600 - 900
Lot 1730 6 Fonseca 1970 750ml $500 - 750 - I think I'm going to try and win this one.
Lot 1255 7 Mixed Lot Mixed $500 - 750
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1963
bottom neck, generic label, fully stamped wax capsule, imported by Wine Warehouse, Los Angeles
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1970
bottom neck
1 750ml Dow 1985
bottom neck
1 750ml Gould Campbell 1985
into neck, wine-stained label
1 750ml Graham 1985
bottom neck
2 750ml Taylor Port 1985
one bottom neck, one very top shoulder
Lot 1498 12 Fonseca 1985 750ml $550 - 800
Lot 1784 6 Mixed Lot Mixed $1,400 - 2,400
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Sandeman 1911
upper shoulder, bin-soiled label, shipped by BH. Loeb & Co. Ltd., British bottled by John Sanson & Son, Leicester, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman Port 1945
one into neck, one bottom neck, one nicked label, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
1 750ml Sandeman Port 1946
into neck, bin-soiled label, shipped by Avery's, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
2 750ml Sandeman 1955
one into neck, one bottom neck, two nicked labels, Provenance: Zachys, June 20, 2008 "The Adamson Collection Part II", lot 1618
Lot 1731 12 Warres 1977 750ml $600 - 900
Lot 1730 6 Fonseca 1970 750ml $500 - 750 - I think I'm going to try and win this one.
Lot 1255 7 Mixed Lot Mixed $500 - 750
Bid
Qty Size Description
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1963
bottom neck, generic label, fully stamped wax capsule, imported by Wine Warehouse, Los Angeles
1 750ml Taylor Fladgate 1970
bottom neck
1 750ml Dow 1985
bottom neck
1 750ml Gould Campbell 1985
into neck, wine-stained label
1 750ml Graham 1985
bottom neck
2 750ml Taylor Port 1985
one bottom neck, one very top shoulder
Lot 1498 12 Fonseca 1985 750ml $550 - 800
Disclosure: Distributor of Quevedo wines and Quinta do Gomariz
Re: Port for sale at auction
1784 might be a wine investor fallen on hard times.
Re: Port for sale at auction
heh, i might bid on that one too
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Re: Port for sale at auction
No 63's were won at auction tonight.