2016 Quinta da Corte LBV
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Alex Bridgeman
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2016 Quinta da Corte LBV
Quinta da Corte. Lovely ripe fruit on the nose, great perfume. Silky texture, perfumed fruit and ripe but firm tannins - with just a tiny touch of greenness to them to give a great grip. Ripe and balanced fruit led aftertaste and a very good length finish. Another wine to make you smile. Tasted blind. 93/100. 28-Apr-22.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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akzy
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Re: 2016 Quinta da Corte LBV
Is this the same Corte as Delaforce Corte? They say on the website they used to supply them.
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JacobH
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Re: 2016 Quinta da Corte LBV
Yes: I think that’s right. I’m not sure if they were ever owned by Delaforce: although I have long given up trying to work out what happened to the Delaforce name and brand.
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Alex Bridgeman
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Re: 2016 Quinta da Corte LBV
It is the same Quinta da Corte as was owned by Delaforce.
I’m writing this from memory so please check independently, but I believe around 2000 Delaforce and Quinta da Corte were owned by the Fladgate partnership.
At some point the Delaforce brand was sold to Royal Oporto, who used (and may still be using) it as a brand for selected markets.
TFP later sold Quinta da Corte to the current owner, who is investing in the vineyards and winery. I’m not sure when when the property changed hands.
I’m writing this from memory so please check independently, but I believe around 2000 Delaforce and Quinta da Corte were owned by the Fladgate partnership.
At some point the Delaforce brand was sold to Royal Oporto, who used (and may still be using) it as a brand for selected markets.
TFP later sold Quinta da Corte to the current owner, who is investing in the vineyards and winery. I’m not sure when when the property changed hands.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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JacobH
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Re: 2016 Quinta da Corte LBV
I’ve just had a look at some of the reference books.
At the time of Liddell & Price’s book (1992), it was owned by Pacheco & Irmãos Lda. They say: “they have run the quinta since almost the beginning ot the century, having inherited it from the ancestors of the Cirne family, whho, with the Pachecos, are joint owners of the company. There is a close liaison with Delaforce, Sons & Ca, who are part of Croft”.
Croft was bought by the TFP in 2001 who therefore acquired the Delaforce name at the same time.
The 2004 edition of Richard Mayson’s book mentioned that Delaforce had large stocks of old tawny Port which were kept at Corte. He said that TPF’s plans at that stage were to turn Delaforce into a tawny specialist.
The last Delaforce Quinta da Corte was, from what I can see, 2004. Delaforce was then sold off to Real Companhia Velha in 2009. From the Quinta da Corte website, it looks like the estate was bought by Philippe Austruy in 2012-2013. He says “It took more than a year to come to an arrangement with a multitude of heirs before the purchase was finalised“ which makes it sound like the Pachecos / Cirne family still owned it.
An interesting question might be what RCV bought from TPF in 2013. I notice that neither QdC nor RCV are advertising old tawny wines. The oldest is the Delaforce “Curious and Ancient” 20-year-old tawny. Does that suggest that the stocks at QdC were owned by Delaforce rather than the Quinta and were retained by TPF (so RCV only bought the naming rights)? I don’t know but it might be a possibility. I think QdC was probably independently owned throughout.
At the time of Liddell & Price’s book (1992), it was owned by Pacheco & Irmãos Lda. They say: “they have run the quinta since almost the beginning ot the century, having inherited it from the ancestors of the Cirne family, whho, with the Pachecos, are joint owners of the company. There is a close liaison with Delaforce, Sons & Ca, who are part of Croft”.
Croft was bought by the TFP in 2001 who therefore acquired the Delaforce name at the same time.
The 2004 edition of Richard Mayson’s book mentioned that Delaforce had large stocks of old tawny Port which were kept at Corte. He said that TPF’s plans at that stage were to turn Delaforce into a tawny specialist.
The last Delaforce Quinta da Corte was, from what I can see, 2004. Delaforce was then sold off to Real Companhia Velha in 2009. From the Quinta da Corte website, it looks like the estate was bought by Philippe Austruy in 2012-2013. He says “It took more than a year to come to an arrangement with a multitude of heirs before the purchase was finalised“ which makes it sound like the Pachecos / Cirne family still owned it.
An interesting question might be what RCV bought from TPF in 2013. I notice that neither QdC nor RCV are advertising old tawny wines. The oldest is the Delaforce “Curious and Ancient” 20-year-old tawny. Does that suggest that the stocks at QdC were owned by Delaforce rather than the Quinta and were retained by TPF (so RCV only bought the naming rights)? I don’t know but it might be a possibility. I think QdC was probably independently owned throughout.