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Re: Latest buy

Posted: 19:43 Thu 18 Mar 2021
by MigSU
Glenn E. wrote: 18:23 Thu 18 Mar 2021
Justin K wrote: 17:42 Thu 18 Mar 2021 Finally after over 30 years of attending auctions a 1961 bottle came up and I got it!!!! Noval Crusted 1961 (Alex tells me it is a sort of vintage as it was bottled in 1964) for €240 plus commission so the most expensive Port I have ever bought...because I'm worth it.
Congrats! It's always nice to pick up birth-year bottles.

Keep an eye out for 1961 Krohn, both VP and Colheita. They're very good.

European Wine Resources - which is in California - has 3+ cases available at $265+tax per bottle. Pricey, but not outrageous for something that old in the US. There's a place in Denmark that has it for $280/bottle.
Saw a few auctions of Krohn Vintage 1961 in Catawiki.com, have seen them going for €120, €150, €170....

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 13:30 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by hadge
just won a couple of lots of birth year (1984) LBV! but at crazy prices for LBV's and neither have a listing on WS, therefore very pleased to have got them.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 13:45 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by MigSU
hadge wrote: 13:30 Tue 23 Mar 2021 just won a couple of lots of birth year (1984) LBV! but at crazy prices for LBV's and neither have a listing on WS, therefore very pleased to have got them.
Ha, we're from the same year. Terrible year for VP, unfortunately :(

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 15:19 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by hadge
MigSU wrote: 13:45 Tue 23 Mar 2021
hadge wrote: 13:30 Tue 23 Mar 2021 just won a couple of lots of birth year (1984) LBV! but at crazy prices for LBV's and neither have a listing on WS, therefore very pleased to have got them.
Ha, we're from the same year. Terrible year for VP, unfortunately :(
yeah it was and a bit of a challenge to find ports from the year, so when i do find them i have to try and get them.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 15:28 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by uncle tom
I was watching that sale - that lot went about four bids above my top limit..

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 19:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by Justin K
yeah it was and a bit of a challenge to find ports from the year, so when i do find them i have to try and get them.
If you are still stuck towards 2024 I bought a case of Delaforce QdCorte and I still have 9 or 10 bottles. Wouldn’t be wowing about them tbh.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 21:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by hadge
uncle tom wrote: 15:28 Tue 23 Mar 2021 I was watching that sale - that lot went about four bids above my top limit..
because i had only one port from my birth year, i didn't really have a limit on them, after missing out on 2 lots at the end of last year, i have stopped putting a limit on them, as they don't come up very offen.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 21:32 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by hadge
Justin K wrote: 19:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
yeah it was and a bit of a challenge to find ports from the year, so when i do find them i have to try and get them.
If you are still stuck towards 2024 I bought a case of Delaforce QdCorte and I still have 9 or 10 bottles. Wouldn’t be wowing about them tbh.
thanks, i know that it is bad year, just fun to have and try some,

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 23:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
by Will W.
hadge wrote: 21:32 Tue 23 Mar 2021
Justin K wrote: 19:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
yeah it was and a bit of a challenge to find ports from the year, so when i do find them i have to try and get them.
If you are still stuck towards 2024 I bought a case of Delaforce QdCorte and I still have 9 or 10 bottles. Wouldn’t be wowing about them tbh.
thanks, i know that it is bad year, just fun to have and try some,
1984 was not a complete write off. Not at all. Indeed, 1984 can offer solid value for money. The issue, as you know hadge, is what you might be able to find in (or import into) the UK at reasonable prices, now that Brexit has kicked in, creating challenges in bringing wines to Blighty from the Continent. On the auction market in Europe, particularly in Portugal, the 1984 Calem Foz is ubiquitous at +/- EUR 35/bottle. Burmester from the same year is a bit better at the same price and more readily found in northern Europe (e.g., at Catawiki auctions), though the problem with the 1984 Burmester is a high incidence of cork taint. Or such has been my experience. Guimaraens and Vargellas are both solid, if not markedly better than the Foz and the Burmester, though one oftentimes has to pay a premium for their respective Fonseca and Taylor links.

Everything I have mentioned is drinking well at the minute, at or very near its peak, so you might have something rather pleasant for your 40th in three years. You'll not be blown off your feet, though you'll likewise not be disappointed.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 00:11 Wed 24 Mar 2021
by MigSU
Will W. wrote: 23:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
hadge wrote: 21:32 Tue 23 Mar 2021
Justin K wrote: 19:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021
yeah it was and a bit of a challenge to find ports from the year, so when i do find them i have to try and get them.
If you are still stuck towards 2024 I bought a case of Delaforce QdCorte and I still have 9 or 10 bottles. Wouldn’t be wowing about them tbh.
thanks, i know that it is bad year, just fun to have and try some,
1984 was not a complete write off. Not at all. Indeed, 1984 can offer solid value for money. The issue, as you know hadge, is what you might be able to find in (or import into) the UK at reasonable prices, now that Brexit has kicked in, creating challenges in bringing wines to Blighty from the Continent. On the auction market in Europe, particularly in Portugal, the 1984 Calem Foz is ubiquitous at +/- EUR 35/bottle. Burmester from the same year is a bit better at the same price and more readily found in northern Europe (e.g., at Catawiki auctions), though the problem with the 1984 Burmester is a high incidence of cork taint. Or such has been my experience. Guimaraens and Vargellas are both solid, if not markedly better than the Foz and the Burmester, though one oftentimes has to pay a premium for their respective Fonseca and Taylor links.

Everything I have mentioned is drinking well at the minute, at or very near its peak, so you might have something rather pleasant for your 40th in three years. You'll not be blown off your feet, though you'll likewise not be disappointed.
Catawiki? I see you're a man of culture.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 13:30 Wed 24 Mar 2021
by Will W.
MigSU wrote: 00:11 Wed 24 Mar 2021
Catawiki? I see you're a man of culture.
Ha! More like a man who's bored silly when not working. In all seriousness, when I was living in northern Europe I did find that there were a great many wine merchants in the Netherlands using catawiki to sell VPs from second tier producers at favourable prices, with the shipping fees being minimal if one was not living too far distant. Burmesters from the '80s were frequently on offer, five and seven years back (and I believe still), which is how I came to know fairly well its output.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 14:08 Wed 24 Mar 2021
by JacobH
Will W. wrote: 23:29 Tue 23 Mar 2021 1984 was not a complete write off. Not at all. Indeed, 1984 can offer solid value for money.
I’ve only tried a few and they were all quite attractive Ports. Reasonably light-weight but drinkable. I think one of the big problems with this vintage was that it was overshadowed by what happened before and after. With ’82, ’83, ’85, ’86 and ’87 either being declared or declarable, you would start drinking your ’84 first, I would have thought.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 20:11 Wed 24 Mar 2021
by MigSU
Will W. wrote: 13:30 Wed 24 Mar 2021
MigSU wrote: 00:11 Wed 24 Mar 2021
Catawiki? I see you're a man of culture.
Ha! More like a man who's bored silly when not working. In all seriousness, when I was living in northern Europe I did find that there were a great many wine merchants in the Netherlands using catawiki to sell VPs from second tier producers at favourable prices, with the shipping fees being minimal if one was not living too far distant. Burmesters from the '80s were frequently on offer, five and seven years back (and I believe still), which is how I came to know fairly well its output.
I like it, bought a few things off there. Got an absolute bargain on a lot of three or four 2011 VPs, including a 2011 Graham's VP. Ended up being something like €42 per bottle, an absolute steal. Also got a great deal on a case of 2000 Ferreira. Mostly bought LBVs and 30/40 year old tawnies, though.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 04:44 Thu 25 Mar 2021
by Mike J. W.
Won at auction this week:
1 x 1970 Calem
2 x 1972 Offley Boa Vista
1 x 1980 Smith Woodhouse
1 x 1983 Gould Campbell
1 x 1986 Graham's Malvedos
1 x 1992 Cockburn Quinta dos Canais
1 x 1994 Offley Boa Vista
1 x 1994 Martinez
1 x 1994 Quinta do Noval
1 x 1997 Offley Boa Vista
1 x 2001 Fonseca Quinta Do Panascal

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 14:51 Sat 27 Mar 2021
by winesecretary
@ Mike J.W. - at a purchase rate of 12 bottles a week, looks like you are building up stocks in advance of retirement...

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 16:08 Sat 27 Mar 2021
by Mike J. W.
winesecretary wrote: 14:51 Sat 27 Mar 2021 @ Mike J.W. - at a purchase rate of 12 bottles a week, looks like you are building up stocks in advance of retirement...
You are very perceptive ws. That is exactly what I'm doing. Retirement is 2 to 3 years off (god willing) and I'm building up my cellar now because after I retire, my purchases will be a lot more limited.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 09:23 Tue 30 Mar 2021
by hadge
Thanks for all of the views on 84 and i will be buying a few more when they come up.

bought 4 bottles of 2003 Tesco Vintage Port @ £20 per botttle.

I also found a 97 Tesco in the cellar which I remember someone was looking for a tasting?

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 10:14 Tue 30 Mar 2021
by MigSU
hadge wrote: 09:23 Tue 30 Mar 2021 Thanks for all of the views on 84 and i will be buying a few more when they come up.

bought 4 bottles of 2003 Tesco Vintage Port @ £20 per botttle.

I also found a 97 Tesco in the cellar which I remember someone was looking for a tasting?


Who makes Tesco's VP?

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 11:41 Tue 30 Mar 2021
by hadge
MigSU wrote: 10:14 Tue 30 Mar 2021

Who makes Tesco's VP?
Symington's

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 12:53 Tue 30 Mar 2021
by MigSU
hadge wrote: 11:41 Tue 30 Mar 2021
MigSU wrote: 10:14 Tue 30 Mar 2021

Who makes Tesco's VP?
Symington's
Ah. £20 is a good deal.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 10:51 Thu 01 Apr 2021
by nac
Recent purchases from C&B's broking list:
12 x Churchill's 1985
12 x Churchill's 1991

Not taken delivery yet, but when I do will probably dispose of half of each. If interested email or PM me.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 11:39 Thu 08 Apr 2021
by nac
6 magnums of Croft 1975
24 halves of Vargellas 1996

Arriving shortly. Assuming all are sound then will probably being looking to pass some of these on. Let me know if interested.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 18:22 Tue 27 Apr 2021
by Mike J. W.
6 x Porto Rocha Three Centuries - 500 ml bottles at a VERY good price.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 21:44 Tue 27 Apr 2021
by jdaw1
4 × Asda Reserve Port, at a VERY good price.

Re: Latest buy

Posted: 15:21 Thu 29 Apr 2021
by Andy Velebil
Mike J. W. wrote: 18:22 Tue 27 Apr 2021 6 x Porto Rocha Three Centuries - 500 ml bottles at a VERY good price.
Don't hold these for any long period of time. They are still very nice but have been going a bit flat with age in bottle for some time now. And be prepared for the worlds smallest 500ml bottle cork. IIRC, they were bottled about 15 years ago, around the mid 2000's.