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Glenn E.

Another wonderful writeup! Your pictures and prose are almost as good as being there.

Minus the wines, of course.

Glenn E.

10 YO Palmer White....not had a Palmer Port yet. Not common over here. It belongs to Álvaro and Fernando van Zeller, but I don't know if it's formally under the umbrella of Barão de Vilar. We visited in 2021, and IIRC Palmer, Maynard's, Fletcher, and Feuerheerd are all brands under the Barão de Vil...

Glenn E.

There were none on the shelf when I went in to look, so I couldn’t find out for myself, but does anyone know who the bottler is? Fletcher is a brand of Barao de Vilar, along with Palmer, Maynard, and (I think) Feuerheerd. I see at least one picture that clearly shows it is bottled by Sogrape Vinhos...

Glenn E.

There were none on the shelf when I went in to look, so I couldn’t find out for myself, but does anyone know who the bottler is? Fletcher is a brand of Barao de Vilar, along with Palmer, Maynard, and (I think) Feuerheerd. I see at least one picture that clearly shows it is bottled by Sogrape Vinhos...

Glenn E.

Graham 2015 LBV

Glenn E.

Yes please!

Glenn E.

Link still works if you want to rejoin.

Glenn E.

I have a paid Zoom account and can re-launch if people would like. But I'm guessing it's late there so maybe we just call it?

To answer Alex's question... no, the only Nacional that I own right now are the 2 x 1994.

Glenn E.

Mike J. W. wrote: ↑22:30 Wed 26 Mar 2025 I really need to move to the UK...for a few reasons.

The weather is so similar to Seattle I could probably move there and not even notice the difference!

Except for the sudden abundance of Port tastings.

Glenn E.

The Taylor 1896 Single Harvest would be on the list of best ports for everyone who has ever tasted it, including me, but is not a VP. I hear that the original Krohn bottling was better. :twisted: It could, at best, make my top 10. I have currently given out 9 x 100-point scores. While at a tasting ...

Glenn E.

Soooo great memories to the 55@55 tasting 15 years ago. Same. Such as Roy asking me what I thought of the Port I was tasting, which was the Noval and not great, and me looking up to see Christian Seely looking at me from the other side of the table. :lol: He smiled and shrugged to let me off the ho...

Glenn E.

flash_uk wrote: ↑23:03 Mon 24 Mar 2025
a tregnum of Graham 1970

I have it on good authority that these are terrible, so if you send it to me I will dispose of it properly for you.

Glenn E.

PM received, thanks Phil!

Glenn E.

I feel like there are probably multiple ways to address this list. The 5 greatest VPs that I've ever had? Definitely includes 1927 Niepoort, 1927 Graham, and 1851 Warre. Off the top of my head I'm not sure what other 2 Ports I would add to that list, but they'd have to be truly spectacular to sit al...

Glenn E.

If I'm converting the time zones correctly, we're starting at 1:00 pm Pacific. That'll work for a bit, then I'll have to log out as I have a meeting from 2:00 - 3:00 pm Pacific. I can re-join after that meeting assuming people are still around.

I have a 2015 Graham to open.

Glenn E.

Early on, I remember 2003s being huge, tannic, fruity beasts. Is this perhaps a case of them still being in their "teenage funk" since they are only 22 years old? I've long thought that there's no need to check on VP at ~20 years old, and that even 25 years old is still too early for a gen...

Glenn E.

Clearly, Harry's account has been hacked.

That is a truly impressive photo of the glasses!

Glenn E.

The only VP that I can find is branded Piano and does not prominently display Carlos Alonso on the label at all. Since our abbreviations are by brand, it should probably be Pi for Piano. Edit: Pi is already in use by Pintas, and while finding that I note that Pn has already been assigned to Piano.

Glenn E.

Elsewhere , Gl has been proposed as abbreviation for Gilbert. Generally I'm less a fan of lower-case l given potential confusion with upper-case I; however we do have precedent such as Dl = Dalva, and minimal confusion potential in this particular case anyway. So, Gl for Gilbert then? Confusion pot...

Glenn E.

We just accidentally had a similar comparison, with both a 375 ml and a 750 ml of 1983 Graham showing up (double blind) at the same Port Club. Interestingly, on this occasion the 375 ml was decidedly younger than the 750. Everyone agreed, with the assumed age difference ranging from 2 years to 14 ye...

Glenn E.

One of the things that I noticed while tasting my way through the 2024 Advent Calendar (which is where I assume this bottle came from) is that the Ports therein tasted very different than the same Port bottled normally. Sometimes radically different. This one and the VOO White (Grandpa's cask) were ...

Glenn E.

Team: please could you post here the number of hours you would expect a 2003 Port to be sat in its decanter prior to the tasting. I tend to decant longer than you do in London, so take this for what it's worth. Very generally, I would decant 2003s for 6-8 hours trending toward the high side of that...

Glenn E.

THIS was the wine that made me fall in love with Vesuvio. Not the 1994 - that came later - but this 1995 and its younger sibling the 2005. That infatuation got me started buying 6-packs, though not of every vintage. I think I buy about 40% of their vintages. I started with 1995 and filled forward, t...

Glenn E.

Was writing bott^le some sort of writing quirk in those days?

Glenn E.

Ah, the vote recording sheet from one of Julian's early tastings!

Glenn E.

It sounds like the general opinion is that it's perhaps similar to 1983? A good year, but not a great one, and with no Ports that truly stand out?

Glenn E.

Amusingly, the top 3 Ports (Fonseca, Vesuvio, Niepoort) only collected 3 first place votes amongst them. (Only 7 were cast.)

Also amusingly, Alex did not vote for any of the 3 in any way.

Glenn E.

What was the original width? 1.00 or the 1.44 that you posted as an option?

Could there be an option between 1.44 and 2.16?

Glenn E.

winesecretary wrote: ↑22:13 Thu 06 Feb 2025 I think that technically 2000 is last century, or certainly last millennium.

Feel free to blame Prince for confusing everyone.

And Y2K.

2000 is 100%, definitely, no argument allowed last century and last millennium.

Glenn E.

0 setlinejoin for me, but 1 is acceptable. I do not like 2.

Glenn E.

2.16 for me. It seems that it only took a little bit to make it dramatically better for me. 2.88 is okay, but starting to get too bold. 4.32 is right out. It seems that I want the line for "SW" to be no thicker than the line for "2000", and if my eye is not fooling me I think 2.1...

Glenn E.

It sounds wonderful! I love your writeups and photographs. It's almost as if I were there!

I also like first photograph (the map), which showed the room rate as 242 EUR? That's really not bad at all for a high-end hotel.

Is the room rate the same in all 3 wings, or does that vary?

Glenn E.

Personally, I think that I prefer 1 but that it could be improved by making the line thicker.

2 is starting to become... busy? I like that it provides more weight to the "SW" but the fact that it is 2 lines instead of a single, thicker line makes it too busy for my eye.

Glenn E.

I thought Sogevinus was formed in the 1990s - if so, how could they have bottled the 1985? 1998, according to their LinkedIn profile. If the bottle was a late release (aka a "shiner"), it might have been bottled in 1985 by A. A. Cálem & Filho, S.A. but had a more modern label applied ...

Glenn E.

Your favorites, if I have interpreted your notes correctly, were alphabetically Dow, Fonseca, Graham, and Kopke Sao Luis. None of which surprise me. Those are consistently the best Ports of the vintage for me.

Glenn E.

Honestly Rummy, with a big tasting like this one I usually just double decant and leave the stoppers off until I need to move the bottles. I think this is the correct plan for you. Start your double-decant regimen at 7-8 am with the Fonseca, then the Dow, Taylor, and Graham, and leave the bottles u...

Glenn E.

Several of us here in the Seattle area have multiple cases of INAO tasting glasses. I think we have 14-15 cases amongst the Port Club. They're inexpensive (IIRC they were $2.75 per stem in a case of 36) and are the same size and shape as a Port glass. Sadly, the company that we bought all of our cas...

Glenn E.

From everything that I have read and heard, Vacuvin doesn't actually do much. It cannot actually create a vacuum in the bottle, and even the partial vacuum that it can create isn't all that significant. There's still a lot of air in the bottle so it's not that much different than just re-corking wit...

Glenn E.

I opened a 1937 Kopke Colheita for the Port Club's holiday party, and then last night I opened a 1985 Vista Alegre Colheita for a (late) New Year's party with my wife's boss.

Glenn E.

And while at it, this page mentions Quinta de Valle Longo, vintages 2018, 2017, and 2011. My preference is Lg , but Ln should be mentioned, even if only to be curtly dismissed. Other L’s: Lc = Quinta das Liceiras Lm = Quinta das Lamelas I realized that I missed this earlier. I think the best abbrev...

Glenn E.

That said, if the consensus thinks otherwise, then I would very strongly favour use of VA over the suggested alternatives. I agree. I prefer VA as it currently stands, but would accept VAl as an alternative. I am unconcerned with the association with volatile acidity. VL and anything not starting w...

Glenn E.

This evening had: - Quinta do Noval Touriga Nacional 2017 Douro DOC red - Quinta de San Michel Malvasia 2017 Colares DOC white - Quinta das Lamelas 20 y.o. white All fantastic wines. In my limited experience, Quinta das Lamelas make the best White Aged Ports. I love that 20YO. I just wish it was ea...

Glenn E.

F85 is in a frustrating place right now, it seems. A very long decant does help, though be prepared to re-cork after opening if it seems to be one of the bottles that's still showing quite young. Those bottles seem to need somewhere between 8 and 12 hours of decant, but can handle 24 if that's what ...

Glenn E.

or feel intimidated and are afraid to give me the 'wrong' wine (whatever that is). I believe that this is my problem as well. Few of my friends know Port at all, let alone as well as I do, and so they don't want to "mess up" and give me something that they think I will feel is "unwor...

Glenn E.

The subsequent photos do make it much clearer that it reads "1931" and not "1937". That first photo just looks different to me - the vertical stroke appears to start leaning outward (away from the '3') in a way that looks like it could be as wide as the '3' at the top, making me ...

Glenn E.

Agree clearly "QUINTA" on the cork, and "Justerini & Brooks" and "1931"on the capsule - which if it's ok with you, I would like to add the capsule image to the VPID please? I'm not sure that yellow "BROOKS" capsule says 1931. It looks very much like 1937 ...

Glenn E.

My poor, befuddled eyes cannot make sense of the lettering on that cork! The latter half looks like it might be INTA which would make sense as part of "VINTAGE" but the first 2 letters have me baffled! An 'H' followed by an 'O"? But the first visible letter also could be 'N'? It coul...

Glenn E.

The 4th picture does seem to me to pretty clearly say "NG & SONS" but, alas, I cannot think of who that might be.

A picture of the cork might be useful, too, even if 90% of it is hidden.

Glenn E.

My poor, befuddled eyes cannot make sense of the lettering on that cork! The latter half looks like it might be INTA which would make sense as part of "VINTAGE" but the first 2 letters have me baffled! An 'H' followed by an 'O"? But the first visible letter also could be 'N'? If in fa...

Glenn E.

Ah excellent! I'll see if i can make the dates work as my flights are not booked yet. Out of curiosity, were is your tour heading? That is unknown to me at present. A friend is working with Roy Hersh to set up a tour for some of her WA winemaker friends, so it will no doubt be similar to past FTLOP...

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