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There is also now (as of 2022) the new Very Very Old Port category, which I believe is intended for bottles that are 80+ years old. I haven't seen that regulation, though, so am not sure about the exact age required for something to be labeled VVO. Here you go! https://files.diariodarepublica.pt/2s...

Ah, that's a good use for them.

4 x Niepoort Bioma Vinha Velha Crusted (bottled 2014)
2 x Taylor's 2017
2 x Warre's 2017

Glenn E. wrote: ↑20:10 Tue 14 Nov 2023 I find it very difficult to understand the economics

I've had to learn to live with the fact that Vintage Port is generally cheaper in the UK than in Portugal - where it's made.

Garrafeira Nacional is having its customary 20% off all fortified wines. Is that seriously off all fortified wines? Even things like Niepoort Garrafeira, where they are already the cheapest source in Europe? That's a definite "yes". https://www.garrafeiranacional.com/catalogsearch/result/...

Garrafeira Nacional is having its customary 20% off all fortified wines.

Interesting to see Chocapalha in that list.

3 x Sandeman 20yo 50cl

Paid €18.50 for each. Crazy.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑23:44 Tue 31 Oct 2023

MigSU wrote: ↑12:17 Tue 31 Oct 2023we could've been talking about one of the best vintages of this century

What proportion of vintages are almost a vintage of the century?

There are many 'ifs', that's true.

I was about to email Glenn about perhaps getting together at some point next month, until Alex specifically mentioned the month of May.

Yes, I know it's in the title, but what can I say....

That's a pretty accurate description of the growing season. I would just make a small addition. I think maturation this year was a few days - maybe a week - behind, relative to what is considered 'normal'. Had we had a slightly warmer June/July (and to a lesser extent August), which would've sped up...

What remains to be seen is whether that young "brutality" played a part in giving the wines such longevities as we see in (some) Ports from the 1920s/30s/40s (and even older), and if these modern, 'more-approachable-when-younger" Ports will have the same 100+ year longevity. But alas,...

flash_uk wrote: ↑16:41 Sun 15 Oct 2023

MigSU wrote: ↑21:26 Sat 14 Oct 2023 Does anyone know the bottling date?

Bottled 2021.

Brilliant, thank you. Might get a few, then, it sounds delicious.

flash_uk wrote: ↑09:38 Sun 15 Oct 2023

MigSU wrote: ↑21:26 Sat 14 Oct 2023 Does anyone know the bottling date?

I'll check another bottle at the retailer today Miguel.

Much appreciated!

Does anyone know the bottling date?

Do we know the bottling date of that Calém 30YO?

The double magnum will age much more slowly than a regular bottle (other things being equal). So it'll reach maturity much later.

I had to stop harvesting today at 9.30am, it was just pissing down. These last few days have been a bit of a downer, things were going pretty smoothly.

Indeed, Tuesday is the current prediction.

Massive thunderstorm yesterday, lots and lots of rain. Not good. Seems like there’s been a lot of rain this harvest. Is it localized or pretty wide-spread area of Douro? The Baixo Corgo took the brunt of it. It rained quite a bit in the Cima Corgo, but not as much (although it's raining there today...

Massive thunderstorm yesterday, lots and lots of rain. Not good.

There's probably too much glass in it anyway, it's probably a total loss.

but it smells lovley

The cork or the wine?

What a stellar line-up!

Welcome to the money drain!