A Pint of Port
A Pint of Port
We have all heard of the term "A Pint of Port", and at least one of our members has tried to down one. So I thought it might be interesting to organise an event around this theme.
The idea is that a group of us turn up at a relatively informal venue with a few bottles of modest Port (a good LBV or Morgan 91) and each start the evening with a pint glass full of Port. Finishing the pint is entirely optional to each individual.
Attendees are welcome to choose to be Scottish or English for the evening.
The idea is that a group of us turn up at a relatively informal venue with a few bottles of modest Port (a good LBV or Morgan 91) and each start the evening with a pint glass full of Port. Finishing the pint is entirely optional to each individual.
Attendees are welcome to choose to be Scottish or English for the evening.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Uh, I don't think that turned out too well last time it happened. although I do have a picture of it that will remained under lock and key until I die or the person in the picture dies, whichever comes first.DRT wrote:We have all heard of the term "A Pint of Port", and at least one of our members has tried to down one. So I thought it might be interesting to organise an event around this theme.
The idea is that a group of us turn up at a relatively informal venue with a few bottles of modest Port (a good LBV or Morgan 91) and each start the evening with a pint glass full of Port. Finishing the pint is entirely optional to each individual.
Attendees are welcome to choose to be Scottish or English for the evening.
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How many centilitres in a pint of port?
Is it around 50cl - the size of an imp?
I'm not overly keen on drinking an imp of just one port all night. I quite like getting together with my port chums and trying out several different bottles in the evening.
Is it around 50cl - the size of an imp?
I'm not overly keen on drinking an imp of just one port all night. I quite like getting together with my port chums and trying out several different bottles in the evening.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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A pint is almost exactly 56.8cl.AHB wrote:How many centilitres in a pint of port?
Is it around 50cl - the size of an imp?
I'm not overly keen on drinking an imp of just one port all night. I quite like getting together with my port chums and trying out several different bottles in the evening.
The idea is to {almost} reproduce the the style of drinking that led to us being able to enjoy many glasses of different shippers/vintages in a single evening. Pitt the Younger and Dr. Johnson did not have the luxury of a placemat and 16 different shippers of vintage 1991 on a Monday evening. They had to make do with a spit-roast hog, 15 broiled geese, 47 partridges and the sweetbreads of 14 Swaledale sheep stuffed in a pie and washed down with a pint of Red Port. Surely we can make the sacrifice for one night, especially if we go for pints of Fonseca 1977 and a bowl of chips at El Vino?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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If we stick to just a pint there will be a fair few going thirsty by the end of the night!
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But this is just to get us warmed up for the next historically-themed event "Ye Olde Six-bottle Men Tasting", where we shall dine heartily whilst glugging our way through half a case each and then gamble furiously before trying to shoot each other with 18th century pistols.RAYC wrote:If we stick to just a pint there will be a fair few going thirsty by the end of the night!
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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This is a stupendous idea. Do we follow it by a 30-bottle vertical tasting the next day? Although somehow, buried somewhere in my subconscious, is a nagging doubt that it might not be such a good idea to carry out in practice, I’m sure it is nothing...
Of course, the pint of Port tradition was well established until at least August 1926:
Of course, the pint of Port tradition was well established until at least August 1926:
Perhaps we should start with a recreation of this, if anyone has a Hine 1844 lying around?André L. Simon, in [i]In the Twilight[/i], wrote:It was a very hot day, indeed, and we [ALS, Percy and Frederick, later Lord, Thellusson] had our traditional three bottles of Champagne [...] and it was more than enough for us both on such a hot day. But not for Frederick, who suggested a bottle of Vintage Port, and when we both quite firmly refused, he turned to Baker, our faithful cellarman, and asked for a pint of his own Port, not Port that he had made, but that Cockburn had made for him for years--their finest tawny wine with a dash of young vintage just before bottling. As Baker went to get this wine, Frederick shock his head rather sadly and mumbled audibly: "Degenerates, degenerates, both of you, beaten by the weather"--then he drank his pint of Port. With coffee and cigars we had a marvelous Hine 1844.
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Well, Portal Restaurant will do a roast suckling pig if we pre-order. If we were to have spit roast hog then I think I will be able to overcome all of my worries about drinking only one type of port all night.DRT wrote:They had to make do with a spit-roast hog...
Count me in!
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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This appears to be gathering momentum.
From the above feedback I have derived the following minimum standards that would have to apply to such an event in order to gain support from enough members to make it worthwhile:
1. The port must be of a high standard, preferably mature and from a good quality shipper.
2. The pints of port would accompany a roast pig. Vegetarian roast pig might be available.
3. The roast pig and pints of port to be served by buxom wenches, ideally named Molly.
4. Emergency supplies must be on hand to ensure that no one goes thirsty.
I think I have covered everything but if there are any other suggestions please do put them forward.
From the above feedback I have derived the following minimum standards that would have to apply to such an event in order to gain support from enough members to make it worthwhile:
1. The port must be of a high standard, preferably mature and from a good quality shipper.
2. The pints of port would accompany a roast pig. Vegetarian roast pig might be available.
3. The roast pig and pints of port to be served by buxom wenches, ideally named Molly.
4. Emergency supplies must be on hand to ensure that no one goes thirsty.
I think I have covered everything but if there are any other suggestions please do put them forward.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Delicious ambiguity.DRT wrote:Vegetarian roast pig might be available.
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What about glasswear? Do we need to contact Sensible Wine Services?DRT wrote:I think I have covered everything but if there are any other suggestions please do put them forward.
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Naturally, we will insist on lined over-size glasses.
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Do they supply pewter tankards? If so, then of course we should order them.JacobH wrote:What about glasswear? Do we need to contact Sensible Wine Services?DRT wrote:I think I have covered everything but if there are any other suggestions please do put them forward.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Gently bang on table. Down contents in one. Slap hard onto table. Refill. Repeat.DRT wrote:Do they supply pewter tankards?
What could go wrong?
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After the hard slap you find the tankard had a glass bottom?jdaw1 wrote:What could go wrong?
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I can supply pewter tankards, if required.DRT wrote:Do they supply pewter tankards? If so, then of course we should order them.JacobH wrote:What about glasswear? Do we need to contact Sensible Wine Services?DRT wrote:I think I have covered everything but if there are any other suggestions please do put them forward.
I am warming to this idea.
Rob C.
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Does pewter have a weird effect on the taste of Port? I seem to remember there is a problem with it and some drinks.RAYC wrote:I can supply pewter tankards, if required.DRT wrote:Do they supply pewter tankards? If so, then of course we should order them.JacobH wrote:What about glasswear? Do we need to contact Sensible Wine Services?DRT wrote:I think I have covered everything but if there are any other suggestions please do put them forward.
I am warming to this idea.
In any event a set of engraved tankards (pint-to-line, of course ) to commemorate the event might be worthwhile!
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Do you have in mind a source who would be able to engrave a dozen straight, pint glasses in an appropriate font with a commemorative message along the lines of "The Port Forum Port Pint Night" and date?JacobH wrote:In any event a set of engraved tankards (pint-to-line, of course ) to commemorate the event might be worthwhile!
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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I much prefer the shape described by Wikipedia as ‟Nonic”. The fingers rest under the slight bulge usage is more robust against a momentary lessening of grip.AHB wrote:straight, pint glasses
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I am not convinced by the idea of drinking a pint of Port from a lager glass as I am quite sure Pitt the Younger and his friends would have held their pints of port by a handle. Perhaps a good compromise would be to use the dimpled pint glass?
Or we could try to find a few of these?
Or we could try to find a few of these?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Surely gentlemen drink from glass tankards? How about one of these, engraved suitably as suggested by JDAW1:
http://www.classyglass.co.uk/acatalog/Tankards.html
http://www.classyglass.co.uk/acatalog/Tankards.html
Ben
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Splendid.
We need a plan.
We need a plan.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
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We could blend the single varietals from Oscar. They should equate to a pint or so! If more, we would all have our own unique port pint blend!DRT wrote:Splendid.
We need a plan.
Ben
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All that effort Oscar went to in order to provide single varietels so that you can appreciate the differences between grape varieties. Then you suggest blending them straight away!!benread wrote:We could blend the single varietals from Oscar. They should equate to a pint or so! If more, we would all have our own unique port pint blend!DRT wrote:Splendid.
We need a plan.
Rob C.
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I may have more than 1 though!RAYC wrote:All that effort Oscar went to in order to provide single varietels so that you can appreciate the differences between grape varieties. Then you suggest blending them straight away!!benread wrote:We could blend the single varietals from Oscar. They should equate to a pint or so! If more, we would all have our own unique port pint blend!DRT wrote:Splendid.
We need a plan.
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!