Port as Art.
Port as Art.
This is apparently 1962 Grahams Vintage Port in Art Form.
The accompanying note. Tasted on my father’s birthday and expressed by one of my grandfather’s paintings. William Saltzman.
From here.
Cant see it myself, but it takes all sorts.
Alan
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What Grahams 1962? That picture is a figment of the artist's imagination.
Mind you, its quite pretty and relaxing. But if I were to buy it today I would glare at it every time I looked at it thinking "Grahams 1962, my foot". Now if he'd called it Grahams 1962 LBV I could have believed him but there was no Grahams 1962.
Alex
Mind you, its quite pretty and relaxing. But if I were to buy it today I would glare at it every time I looked at it thinking "Grahams 1962, my foot". Now if he'd called it Grahams 1962 LBV I could have believed him but there was no Grahams 1962.
Alex
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While 1962 was no 1963, Grahams did make a Malvedos in 1962 and bottled it in 1964. It's therefore not an LBV. I received this bottle from a friend whose late father ran a small wine importing company. Surely, there is not much of it around, but here is a photograph to prove it!AHB wrote:What Grahams 1962? That picture is a figment of the artist's imagination.
Mind you, its quite pretty and relaxing. But if I were to buy it today I would glare at it every time I looked at it thinking "Grahams 1962, my arse". Now if he'd called it Grahams 1962 LBV I could have believed him but there was no Grahams 1962.
Alex
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Much as I'd like to agree with you on this Benjamin, I'm afraid to say that Malvedos is not normally referred to as "Graham's Vintage Port", even if it is a VP made by Graham's. T'other Alex is quite right in his assertion and bah-humbug attitude.
Welcome to the site BTW, good to see you on-line and posting, even if it is with a very big picture.
Welcome to the site BTW, good to see you on-line and posting, even if it is with a very big picture.
Port is basically a red drink
Hi Benjamin,
I presume they are your photo's on the Chateau Petrogasm Site (Where the Port Painting comes from), very impressive.
I'm concerned you may have got a little confused with our Port Heads on this Forum. We generally consider Vintage Port to be the King of Ports. They come in Declared years. When the year is not declared, the Main Producers, have secondary Ports, which are still excellent, but a step down from Vintage Port.
The Painting, as pleasant as it is, just spiked my curiousity from the Port angle, and as my fellow Forumista's have confirmed, and your picture shows, Grahams 62 was a Malvedos year (The secondary Port).
I suspect 99% of the population would neither know or care for that distinction. And I apologise if you knew all of this already. If your actually into Port, welcome aboard, but even if your not, could you give an artists critique of the Painting and were the Artist was coming from. I'd find it interesting to see and hear how he developed this piece from his tasting.
Alan
I presume they are your photo's on the Chateau Petrogasm Site (Where the Port Painting comes from), very impressive.
I'm concerned you may have got a little confused with our Port Heads on this Forum. We generally consider Vintage Port to be the King of Ports. They come in Declared years. When the year is not declared, the Main Producers, have secondary Ports, which are still excellent, but a step down from Vintage Port.
The Painting, as pleasant as it is, just spiked my curiousity from the Port angle, and as my fellow Forumista's have confirmed, and your picture shows, Grahams 62 was a Malvedos year (The secondary Port).
I suspect 99% of the population would neither know or care for that distinction. And I apologise if you knew all of this already. If your actually into Port, welcome aboard, but even if your not, could you give an artists critique of the Painting and were the Artist was coming from. I'd find it interesting to see and hear how he developed this piece from his tasting.
Alan
Benjamin,
Welcome to The Port Forum. I can only appologise for my fellow Forumites who have no appreciation for art. As you can see from the above conversation I instantly spotted that this painting depicted the Malvedos bottling from 1962.
Derek
Welcome to The Port Forum. I can only appologise for my fellow Forumites who have no appreciation for art. As you can see from the above conversation I instantly spotted that this painting depicted the Malvedos bottling from 1962.
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Benjamin,
Thanks for responding to my post. I was being provocative and I'm delighted that I got a response - good for you for not just ignoring me. I go back to my original sensible comment and say that I think the picture is pretty and relaxing - quite feminine, Elizabeth (my wife) called it. And the Malvedos 1962 has probably reached the stage in its life where it is delicate, light and feminine when drunk. I wish I had been able to be there with you when you drank it. Its a wine I've never tried and I do enjoy the Malvedos style when it is mature.
But, to me, being a rather OCD inflicted port-geek, there is a world of difference between a Grahams '63 and a Malvedos '62. I just wish the picture had been called Malvedos '62...
But I do like the picture
Alex
Thanks for responding to my post. I was being provocative and I'm delighted that I got a response - good for you for not just ignoring me. I go back to my original sensible comment and say that I think the picture is pretty and relaxing - quite feminine, Elizabeth (my wife) called it. And the Malvedos 1962 has probably reached the stage in its life where it is delicate, light and feminine when drunk. I wish I had been able to be there with you when you drank it. Its a wine I've never tried and I do enjoy the Malvedos style when it is mature.
But, to me, being a rather OCD inflicted port-geek, there is a world of difference between a Grahams '63 and a Malvedos '62. I just wish the picture had been called Malvedos '62...
But I do like the picture
Alex
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Interesting site you have, Benjamin - I'll be sure to check it out further. Just a Port comment - your correction reads:
Some folks at http://www.theportforum.com didn’t believe that Grahams made a Malvedos in 1962, but they did and here is the picture to prove it:
Shouldn't it read:
Some folks at http://www.theportforum.com pointed out that Grahams didn't made a VP in 1962, but instead a Grahams Malvedos VP and indeed here is the picture to prove it:
Feel free to add "obsessive", "fanatical" or "anal" in front of the "folks"
Thanks for providing a link to this forum!
Some folks at http://www.theportforum.com didn’t believe that Grahams made a Malvedos in 1962, but they did and here is the picture to prove it:
Shouldn't it read:
Some folks at http://www.theportforum.com pointed out that Grahams didn't made a VP in 1962, but instead a Grahams Malvedos VP and indeed here is the picture to prove it:
Feel free to add "obsessive", "fanatical" or "anal" in front of the "folks"
Thanks for providing a link to this forum!
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Thanks for the advice everyone! You've certainly got an active and attentive community here.
http://chateaupetrogasm.com/2007/07/04/ ... -port-150/
Best,
Benjamin
http://chateaupetrogasm.com/2007/07/04/ ... -port-150/
Best,
Benjamin