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Whilst in Portugal Derek was taken ill. The local medical authorities promptly diagnosed LETNB, which some research revealed to be Late-Evening Tasting-Note Brevity. It was a drastic case: the brevity dipping below six words for several wines, and reaching lows of zero (with a measurement error of ±2 words). Apparently there was no short-term cure.

Long-term, Derek brilliantly! suggested pre-written tasting notes. Lots of words on the tasting note sheets, so that DRT could circle a chosen few of them. So words are needed.

For the moment I’m working on the nose and mouth sections. It is important that all the relevant words are there, and that they are ordered in a logical way that allows a user of pre-written tasting notes to master their sense. First draft follows:

• Weight: early (light, medium, full); mid-palate (light, medium, full); late (light, medium, full); ending: short, medium, long.
• Heat (little, medium, lots; early, mid-palate, late).
• Acidity (little, medium, lots; early, mid-palate, late).
• Tannins (little, medium, lots; early, mid-palate, late).
• Dry (little, medium, lots; early, mid-palate, late).
• Sweetness (little, medium, lots; early, mid-palate, late; artificial, simple, full); brown sugar; burnt sugar; caramel; toffee; fudge; butterscotch; Madeira (sercial, bual, verdelho, malmsey); bubblegum.
• Bitter (nice, nasty); sour (nice, nasty).
• Flowers (violet); grass (dry, wet; fresh-cut).
• Mint (spearmint, peppermint, artificial); eucalyptus.
• Citrus (marmalade): tangerine, mandarin, orange, quince, grapefruit, lemon.
• Berries (jam): strawberry; raspberry; loganberry; blueberry; blackcurrant; blackberry; redcurrant (jelly); cranberry.
• Fruit (stewed): plums; damsons; cherry (caramelised, glacé, black, red, white); dates; prunes; raisins; grapes.
• Fruit 2: rhubarb; apples; pears; bananas; pineapples; sharon fruit.
• Chocolate (dark, milk, white, cocoa powder).
• Coffee; leather; earth; peat; smoke; cedar-wood; metal; musty.
• Spice (mild, medium, strong): pepper (white, black); curry; jalapeño.
• Tanky; plasticine; vegetal; cardboard; paint; acetone; wet dog; 2,4,6-Trichloroanisole.



Edit, Nov 2020: this thread mentioned in Post Tasting Note Checklists.

Is there a way to correlate it with a score for each of teh characteristics?

that way if you're drunk and cant think of that special word, you can give it a number.

g-man wrote:Is there a way to correlate it with a score for each of teh characteristics?

that way if you're drunk and cant think of that special word, you can give it a number.

I don’t understand. Please say more. Give an example.

g-man wrote:that way if you're drunk and cant think of that special word, you can give it a number.

Because drunk people are RENOWNED for their ability to work with numbers.

• Berries (jam): strawberry; raspberry; loganberry; blueberry; blackcurrant; blackberry; redcurrant (jelly); cranberry.
black raspberry, mulberry, boysenberry, marionberry

• Coffee; leather; earth; peat; smoke; cedar-wood; metal; musty.
minerals (non-specific), graphite

jdaw1 wrote:Whilst in Portugal Derek was taken ill. The local medical authorities promptly diagnosed LETNB, which some research revealed to be Late-Evening Tasting-Note Brevity. It was a drastic case: the brevity dipping below six words for several wines, and reaching lows of zero (with a measurement error of ±2 words). Apparently there was no short-term cure.

It is with regret that I have to inform you that there is in fact no long-term cure for LETNB. I thank JDAW for his sterling efforts in breaking new ground in researching treatments and aids that will help to allow me and my fellow sufferers of this tragic illness to cope with the unavoidable symptoms.

One thing I would like to note is that a side-effect of a cronic bout of LETNB is the inability to process vast amounts of information. This is particularly accute in cases where the serverity of the LETNB episode causes blurred vision and impared hand to eye co-ordination. It is therefore recommended that a simplified version of the pre-written tasting note page be available so that it can be used in the most severe cases.

The options available on the simplified version may look something like:

Nose: Yes / No
Colour: Purple / Red /Brown
Texture: Thick / Thin
Flavour: Very Nice / Nice / Horrible
Finish: Yes, can I have some more please?

jdaw1 wrote:

g-man wrote:Is there a way to correlate it with a score for each of teh characteristics?

that way if you're drunk and cant think of that special word, you can give it a number.

I don’t understand. Please say more. Give an example.

9 ..
I don't know I was drunk when posting last night.
Didn't even realize I was posting here =)

goign back and reading the post ... If you're too drunk to write notes, I think you might just confuse yourself if presented with a bevy of flavors. It might be a fun exercise, but one I feel might be fruitless.

• Melon (water, cantaloupe).
More fruit: fig.

Under score section:
• Buy; Buy if cheap; Drink others’; Avoid.
• Ready; wait 2Y, 5Y, 10Y, 20Y, 30Y, more.
• Optimal decant: 0, 1h, 2h, 3h, 6h, 12h, 24h, 2d, 3d, 7d.

I feel that the different types of "Sugars" should be branched onto it's own group.

They are distinctly different from "Sweetness"


• Sweetness (little, medium, lots; early, mid-palate, late; artificial, simple, full);
• Sugar Character: brown sugar; burnt sugar; caramel; toffee; fudge; butterscotch;

DRT wrote:Finish: Yes, can I have some more please?

There also ought to be an option: ‟have now passed out; this box is being circled by the person sitting to the left / right”. I am also concerned of the potential for false-positives on the bitter options with ticking the ‟• Bitter (nice)” box being an order rather than a description!

More fruit: pear.

DRT wrote: Nose: Yes / No
Colour: Purple / Red /Brown
Texture: Thick / Thin
Flavour: Very Nice / Nice / Horrible
Finish: Yes, can I have some more please?

It has just struck me that this, or a variant, could be printed on the reverse of business cards for emergency rapid TN capture

This has become issue 15 of the placemats-on-GitHub.

I can't wait for the technology that would allow me to lick my phone and have an app prepopulate all the appropriate tastes!

g-man wrote: ↑12:05 Fri 26 Feb 2021 I can't wait for the technology that would allow me to lick my phone and have an app prepopulate all the appropriate tastes!

You can do that now. Just prepopulate your phone screen with the appropriate tastes, so that then it can prepopulate you.

MigSU wrote: ↑12:19 Fri 26 Feb 2021

g-man wrote: ↑12:05 Fri 26 Feb 2021 I can't wait for the technology that would allow me to lick my phone and have an app prepopulate all the appropriate tastes!

You can do that now. Just prepopulate your phone screen with the appropriate tastes, so that then it can prepopulate you.

but sharing is caring!!

g-man wrote: ↑12:35 Fri 26 Feb 2021

MigSU wrote: ↑12:19 Fri 26 Feb 2021

g-man wrote: ↑12:05 Fri 26 Feb 2021 I can't wait for the technology that would allow me to lick my phone and have an app prepopulate all the appropriate tastes!

You can do that now. Just prepopulate your phone screen with the appropriate tastes, so that then it can prepopulate you.

but sharing is caring!!

Hmm....pre-flavoured face masks?

JacobH wrote: ↑19:38 Sun 12 Jul 2009 There also ought to be an option: ‟have now passed out; this box is being circled by the person sitting to the left / right”.

This