On the contrary, I was quite happy with your phrasing until you came along with this turgid, toadying annotation! 20 lashes, and no Nacional for a week!jdaw1 wrote:One would write a “great-great-grandson”. Observe that also the hyphen is repeated. But “greatn-grandson” suggests the likes of “greatgreat-grandson”. The expression “(great-)ngrandson” would have correctly caught the repetition of the hyphen. Perhaps clarity could have been helped by adding a half-width non-breaking space: “(great-)n grandson”.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=83590#p83590]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Like father, like greatn-grandson.
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Is the annoyance because the original expression was correct, or is the annoyance because you have been shown what you should have seen unaided?djewesbury wrote:On the contrary, I was quite happy with your phrasing until you came along with this turgid, toadying annotation! 20 lashes, and no Nacional for a week!
The failure of policing should cost you “20 lashes, and no Nacional for a week”.
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I thought the original phrasing most elegant and moreover I think that contractions should be capable of implying the punctuation that their expanded forms demand. Your apology undid the simplicity of your original formulation and cast us out into a hostile land populated with inelegant parentheses.
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Accuracy over marketing-speak please! Hence “(great-)ngrandson” much improved over the original poor syntax; A magnum of old, partially oxidated Nacional to JDAW, a large swanky bottle of amazing, inspiring, fantastic pink port to DJ.djewesbury wrote:On the contrary, I was quite happy with your phrasing until you came along with this turgid, toadying annotation! 20 lashes, and no Nacional for a week!jdaw1 wrote:One would write a “great-great-grandson”. Observe that also the hyphen is repeated. But “greatn-grandson” suggests the likes of “greatgreat-grandson”. The expression “(great-)ngrandson” would have correctly caught the repetition of the hyphen. Perhaps clarity could have been helped by adding a half-width non-breaking space: “(great-)n grandson”.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=83590#p83590]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Like father, like greatn-grandson.
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What marketing speak?
More seriously, the formulation you prescribe simply isn't English as it is used or spoken. Algebraic or logical notation should not be used in place of the English language!
A double magnum of Real Vinicola 1983 to Phil, to be finished by lunchtime!
What marketing speak?
More seriously, the formulation you prescribe simply isn't English as it is used or spoken. Algebraic or logical notation should not be used in place of the English language!
A double magnum of Real Vinicola 1983 to Phil, to be finished by lunchtime!
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I know that this post will lay me open to all kinds of just rebukes of my use of the written word, but I can't help disagreeing less violently than usual with Daniel that mathematical notation does not add to the clarity or elegance of the above.
I shall try to keep my beak out of these contretemps in future, in the hope of avoiding the lash of public censure.
I shall try to keep my beak out of these contretemps in future, in the hope of avoiding the lash of public censure.
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Especially wise given the stray apostrophe in your last but one post. But thanks for backing me up. Down with algebra as a spoken language.LGTrotter wrote:I know that this post will lay me open to all kinds of just rebukes of my use of the written word, but I can't help agreeing with Daniel that mathematical notation does not add to the clarity or elegance of the above.
I shall try to keep my beak out of these contretemps in future, in the hope of avoiding the lash of public censure.
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Ah yes, I would plead guilty but request the court to take into account 793 previous offences and auto correction.djewesbury wrote:Especially wise given the stray apostrophe in your last but one post. But thanks for backing me up. Down with algebra as a spoken language.LGTrotter wrote:I know that this post will lay me open to all kinds of just rebukes of my use of the written word, but I can't help agreeing with Daniel that mathematical notation does not add to the clarity or elegance of the above.
I shall try to keep my beak out of these contretemps in future, in the hope of avoiding the lash of public censure.
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Let this simply be remembered as the high point of PortForumming.LGTrotter wrote:I can't help agreeing with Daniel
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Thank you for pointing this out to me I have amended my original post to reflect my views more accurately.djewesbury wrote:Let this simply be remembered as the high point of PortForumming.LGTrotter wrote:I can't help agreeing with Daniel
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There is no emoticon to do justice to the feelings I have now.LGTrotter wrote:Thank you for pointing this out to me I have amended my original post to reflect my views more accurately.djewesbury wrote:Let this simply be remembered as the high point of PortForumming.LGTrotter wrote:I can't help agreeing with Daniel
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Blind mathematicians will be knocking on your door soon. U=a2-ddjewesbury wrote:Down with algebra as a spoken language.
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"No! Not -d! No Doctor! That means.."PhilW wrote:Blind mathematicians will be knocking on your door soon. U=a2-ddjewesbury wrote:Down with algebra as a spoken language.
"Yes, Tara, I have to activate the Algebrathon. It's the end of cultured life as we know it."
"But Doctor! E6 ≪ fe!"
"Exactly dear girl. Exactly."
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Tara, or Clara?
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I was envisaging a Doctor's Assistant from a time not experienced.
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You see, now we have descended into maths humour. Derek had a link to a site of maths jokes. They were bad, not in a street parlance, kind of good but called bad, just bad. Maths is important, but should not be encouraged.
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It's not big, and it's not clever.
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357686312646216567629137djewesbury wrote:It's not big, and it's not clever.
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I rest my case. No further questions your honour.PhilW wrote:357686312646216567629137djewesbury wrote:It's not big, and it's not clever.
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It's big (fairly) and clever (fairly) - in case anyone is interested, it is the largest prime from which you can remove any number of leading digits and the remainder is also prime. Perhaps slight off-topic now.
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The ones who are still here are sound asleep Phil. Or worse, like that unfortunate old gentleman in The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club.PhilW wrote:It's big (fairly) and clever (fairly) - in case anyone is interested, it is the largest prime from which you can remove any number of leading digits and the remainder is also prime. Perhaps slight off-topic now.
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So this is what happens when I leave you all alone for 48 hours.
Is this the first instance of a thread where the off-topic drivel needs to be split from a thread in Meaningless Drivel?
Is this the first instance of a thread where the off-topic drivel needs to be split from a thread in Meaningless Drivel?
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We are attempting to resolve the vexed question of whether mathematical notation should be used, as a form of punctuation, on these pages. I thought this was the thread for punctuation, its uses and abuses.
And I say; Never! Never! Never!
So does Daniel. But waddaya know Phil and Julian say otherwise. An adjudication would be helpful.
And I say; Never! Never! Never!
So does Daniel. But waddaya know Phil and Julian say otherwise. An adjudication would be helpful.
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I agree with Daniel and Owen, purely on the basis that the Mathamatists didn't show their working out.
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Do you really want to see a Mathamatist in lycra and spandex?DRT wrote:I agree with Daniel and Owen, purely on the basis that the Mathamatists didn't show their working out.
I thought not. Best they not show.
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