Re: Latest buy
Posted: 13:59 Wed 04 Oct 2023
3 x 1999 Sandeman Vau magnums
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Indeed, admit I was a little surprised at the lack of bids, 100 per 4 was below the reserve but there have been a few instances of this recently, Bacchus auction in June was very similar.winesecretary wrote: ↑13:21 Sun 08 Oct 2023 Andy, that’s a fantastic price (fully paid up, probably less than release price, I think) for a great port, arguably one of the two stars of the vintage, and starting to drink beautifully now.
If I did my math right, that's approximately $65 US for a fantastic Port that has just finally come around. Excellent score!winesecretary wrote: ↑22:48 Sun 29 Oct 2023 A case of Fonseca 1985 with excellent provenance at auction for fifty-four quid a bottle delivered. The best port of the 1980s for the price of an acceptable mature Cote Rotie from an unfashionable producer. Mad really.
The 1980 Dow is very good as well.Glenn E. wrote: ↑21:00 Mon 30 Oct 2023 Yeah that's an excellent price for a superb Port. Its only real rival from the 1980s in my opinion is 1987 Taylor Vargellas, and if you want to stretch a bit then maybe 1985 Graham. For an otherwise down decade for TFP, the 1985 Fonseca and the 1987 Vargellas are beautiful.
10-15 years ago I would have agreed with no reservations. But the last 2 bottles that I've had had faded dramatically (completely different sources) and were merely "really good Port" rather than the epic blockbuster it had been until recently. These latest ones were no better than, and possibly not as good as, 1985 Dow. So yeah it's very good, but at least for me it is no longer on the level of 1985 Fonseca or 1987 Vargellas or 1985 Graham.Mike J. W. wrote: ↑04:03 Tue 31 Oct 2023The 1980 Dow is very good as well.Glenn E. wrote: ↑21:00 Mon 30 Oct 2023 Yeah that's an excellent price for a superb Port. Its only real rival from the 1980s in my opinion is 1987 Taylor Vargellas, and if you want to stretch a bit then maybe 1985 Graham. For an otherwise down decade for TFP, the 1985 Fonseca and the 1987 Vargellas are beautiful.
I'll have to crack one open when I get mine out of storage in a few weeks and see how they are. The last one I had about a year ago was excellent.Glenn E. wrote: ↑18:09 Tue 31 Oct 202310-15 years ago I would have agreed with no reservations. But the last 2 bottles that I've had had faded dramatically (completely different sources) and were merely "really good Port" rather than the epic blockbuster it had been until recently. These latest ones were no better than, and possibly not as good as, 1985 Dow. So yeah it's very good, but at least for me it is no longer on the level of 1985 Fonseca or 1987 Vargellas or 1985 Graham.Mike J. W. wrote: ↑04:03 Tue 31 Oct 2023The 1980 Dow is very good as well.Glenn E. wrote: ↑21:00 Mon 30 Oct 2023 Yeah that's an excellent price for a superb Port. Its only real rival from the 1980s in my opinion is 1987 Taylor Vargellas, and if you want to stretch a bit then maybe 1985 Graham. For an otherwise down decade for TFP, the 1985 Fonseca and the 1987 Vargellas are beautiful.
Lol. He's devious that way is he?Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:40 Wed 01 Nov 2023 Mike, don’t get sucked in to Glenn’s plan. He’s just trying to get you to set up a “Best of the Eighties” tasting that he can come to.
I can neither confirm nor deny this accusation.Mike J. W. wrote: ↑01:29 Thu 02 Nov 2023Lol. He's devious that way is he?Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:40 Wed 01 Nov 2023 Mike, don’t get sucked in to Glenn’s plan. He’s just trying to get you to set up a “Best of the Eighties” tasting that he can come to.
Thanks for the tip, indulged in half a dozen myself. As for leaving it in your will, tish pish and nonsense, it will be practically at it's best in a year or two......Dig in!
What you should do is go herewinesecretary wrote: ↑19:57 Sat 30 Dec 2023 I know that shop well and will indeed be visiting it in three weeks. Lots of expensive wine in poor condition. But the occasional not unamusing little trouve nevertheless. They used to have a wonderful range of miniatures of old spirits, which I think the owner used to buy off the stewards of cruise ships. But I drank most of those!