Taking Pictures of Port
Taking Pictures of Port
jdaw1 has encouraged us here to insert pictures of bottles, corks and port in our TN's. I am all for this but have 2 questions:
1. Is our current hosting arrangement up to the task in terms of bandwidth etc?
2. Can someone please give me some advice on how to take good clear pictures of glasses of port using my Canon Powershot digital camera.
Thanks
Derek
1. Is our current hosting arrangement up to the task in terms of bandwidth etc?
2. Can someone please give me some advice on how to take good clear pictures of glasses of port using my Canon Powershot digital camera.
Thanks
Derek
Look guys, we are all geeks, that's a given. So at least one of you has to be a photography expert who has experience of taking close-up pictures in artificial light. I don't need to know what it is that you normally photograph, I just need some tips on which settings to use to enable me to show you the real colour of my port.
Thanks
Derek
Thanks
Derek
I'm reluctant to say this, because I most definately NOT an expert on photography....but,
I was helping a photographer once, in his Studio and I was asking about all the different and apparently expensive types of lighting there was in the studio. He went onto explain that forgetting the artistic merits in tampering with light, having consistantly bright enough light was essential for a well constructed and consistant photograph. He then showed me a 'light box' which he used to place small items in (presumably like a Port Bottle,etc). The box had a consistant light source all around it, and created a situation where there wouldn't be that 'flashback' you often get that causes the Label on a bottle to white out,etc.
It also produced a consistant enviroment, by which to compare one picture against another. Now although this stuck in my head, I never went on to heed this advice or experiment with it.
So to summarise, I suspect you need a constant light source that surrounds the object from all directions, but to be fair...you may as well put this whole Post of mine in the Meaningless Drivel Section!
Alan
I was helping a photographer once, in his Studio and I was asking about all the different and apparently expensive types of lighting there was in the studio. He went onto explain that forgetting the artistic merits in tampering with light, having consistantly bright enough light was essential for a well constructed and consistant photograph. He then showed me a 'light box' which he used to place small items in (presumably like a Port Bottle,etc). The box had a consistant light source all around it, and created a situation where there wouldn't be that 'flashback' you often get that causes the Label on a bottle to white out,etc.
It also produced a consistant enviroment, by which to compare one picture against another. Now although this stuck in my head, I never went on to heed this advice or experiment with it.
So to summarise, I suspect you need a constant light source that surrounds the object from all directions, but to be fair...you may as well put this whole Post of mine in the Meaningless Drivel Section!
Alan
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Nope - this is a plan.
We need to develop a light-box suitable for taking around to Off-lines. It must be large enough to put a whole bottle of Port in and also suitably light it up. It must also be easily transported.
It should be able to run off AA batteries as no electrical source can be guaranteed and throw out a conisitent light all around the bottle or glass.
Right, that's the user requirements, who wants to do the detailed design?
We need to develop a light-box suitable for taking around to Off-lines. It must be large enough to put a whole bottle of Port in and also suitably light it up. It must also be easily transported.
It should be able to run off AA batteries as no electrical source can be guaranteed and throw out a conisitent light all around the bottle or glass.
Right, that's the user requirements, who wants to do the detailed design?
- I repeat my encouragement. [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=724#724]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:please could other posters of TN consider themselves encouraged to include photographs of bottle, cork, and—most importantly—port.
- Photography geekiness I can’t do. And indeed there was considerable trouble with the flash reflecting off the glass (e.g.) and hiding the colour of the juice. The problem was lessened, but not eliminated, by adjusting the angle of the glass.
- All-round natural light sounds like a good idea. Could be simulated with non-proximate electric lights, perhaps shone through or reflected off a light diffuser.
- Anything that has to be specially constructed will, in practice, not be available to most people. What’s needed are tricks that anyone can do at home.
Can we assume that "large enough to put a whole bottle of Port in " actually means "large enough to take an entire flight of bottles from all Fonseca declared vintages over any rolling 100 year period"
I only ask because this is the usual accepted level of scope creep in this kind of situation. Oh, and how many batteries are we allowed to use?
Derek
I only ask because this is the usual accepted level of scope creep in this kind of situation. Oh, and how many batteries are we allowed to use?
Derek
all Nacional vintages ever declared
No. Must hold all Nacional vintages ever declared, with magnums of the regular Noval from those years in which it also declared.
Flash suggestions
Back to the subject. The problem is whiteout from the flash versus darkness without flash.
- Does taping a piece of paper over the flash provide enough diffusion?
- Mount in a picture frame without glass a piece of white paper. Does shining a light onto that work?
- Other suggestions?
Photography technique
Until the pictures that triggered this thread, I have photographed bottles by holding them in the air about 2½' from my Mac’s built-in camera. Just before taking the picture Apple’s PhotoBooth does a screen white-out as a diffuse flash. This picture is then trimmed, with no colour adjustments.
The RP85 was photographed with my wife’s Canon camera (the SD500—note correction), near a window in my living room (alas it is insufficiently grand to call it a drawing room). The cork and glass pictures were done against a piece of white A4, and trimmed. Again, no on-computer colour adjustments. In each case several shots were taken, and the best used.
Nothing fancy at all. The main thing I did was bother to try to take pictures. Feel encouraged to do likewise.
The RP85 was photographed with my wife’s Canon camera (the SD500—note correction), near a window in my living room (alas it is insufficiently grand to call it a drawing room). The cork and glass pictures were done against a piece of white A4, and trimmed. Again, no on-computer colour adjustments. In each case several shots were taken, and the best used.
Nothing fancy at all. The main thing I did was bother to try to take pictures. Feel encouraged to do likewise.
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Re: Photography technique
This is precisely the method I use - I was hoping you had a secret trick that would save me some timejdaw1 wrote: In each case several shots were taken, and the best used.
I am encouraged and will try to find the time to do this the next time I open a VP.
Derek
Re: Photography technique
It’s all of an extra ¼ minute per shot. Reminding you that you should be waiting patiently for the port to develop in the decanter, perhaps it would be better if it were an hour a click.Derek T. wrote:This is precisely the method I use - I was hoping you had a secret trick that would save me some timejdaw1 wrote: In each case several shots were taken, and the best used.
Post above corrected to say Canon SD500.
Post above corrected to say Canon SD500.
So when you've finished mulling over the design, trying a few prototypes, spent a fortune coming to a final design and then marketing it....
Do you think it will be as good as This and all the others that are on the market? Its professional photography gear, not rocket science.
Alan
Do you think it will be as good as This and all the others that are on the market? Its professional photography gear, not rocket science.
Alan
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