I was just wondering so that we had them on-line before I create the downloads.Derek T. wrote:'Someone' has told me that 'Someone' is best left alone to decide the best time for 'Someone' to do what 'Someone' does very well.jdaw1 wrote:‘Someone’ has told me that the cross-linking is more easily done in one go.KillerB wrote:'Someone' could always create all the others and wait for certainty.
Tasting Notes Section
- KillerB
- Taylor Quinta de Vargellas 1987
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Port is basically a red drink
OK. Will do in a few hours.
OK. Will do in a few hours.
‘Somebody’ has coped.
‘Somebody’ has coped.
jdaw1 wrote:Perhaps suppliers of bottles could post information about provenance in the appropriate TN threads?(Combining links from multiple places) jdaw1 wrote:The 1966 Horizontal, held at the Crusting Pipe, Covent Garden, London WC2E 8RD, on Monday 28 January 2008.
Links:
- Planning and arrangements: pages 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15;
- Review of the evening as a whole;
- TN: Adam 1966;
- TN: Avery 1966;
- TN: Croft 1966;
- TN: Delaforce 1966;
- TN: Dow 1966;
- TN: Fonseca 1966;
- TN: Graham 1966;
- TN: Morgan 1966;
- TN: Noval 1966;
- TN: Noval Nacional 1966;
- TN: Offley Boa Vista 1966;
- TN: Robertson’s Rebello Valente 1966;
- TN: Taylor 1966;
- TN: Warre 1966;
- TN: Berry Brothers & Rudd 1966.
- Alex Bridgeman
- Graham’s 1948
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I note that the title of the tasting note for the Nacional is "1966 Nacional". Should we follow that lead for future tasting notes of the Nacional wines (ie. omit any reference to Noval)?
Alex
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
I vote no. I prefer the use of the full description Quinta do Noval Nacional, preferably with the funny little curly thing at the bottom of the c in NacionalAHB wrote:I note that the title of the tasting note for the Nacional is "1966 Nacional". Should we follow that lead for future tasting notes of the Nacional wines (ie. omit any reference to Noval)?
Alex
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
cedilla
“Naçional†?! Please help me believe by uploading a picture of a bottle with a label in which the c of Nacional has a cedilla.
In order of number of TNs:
This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:
44 Quinta do Vesuvio
29 Fonseca
26 Graham’s
24 Warre
21 Taylor
20 Nacional
19 Dow
15 Cockburn
14 Croft
13 Noval
13 Sandeman
12 Niepoort
10 Noval colheita
10 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas
9 Graham’s Malvedos
9 Smith Woodhouse
8 Harvey’s (Martinez)
8 Morgan
7 Fonseca Guimaraens
7 Kopke
7 Ramos Pinto
6 Quinta do Crasto
6 Quinta de Roriz
6 Warre LBV
5 Berry Bros Selection
5 Burmester LBV
5 Croft Quinta da Roeda
5 Dow Quinta do Bomfim
5 Gould Campbell
5 Noval Silval
5 Offley Boa Vista
4 Churchill’s
4 Graham’s Crusted
4 Graham’s LBV
4 Kopke colheita
4 Niepoort colheita
4 Quarles Harris
4 Smith Woodhouse LBV
4 Quinta de Vale Meão
3 Burmester
3 Cálem
3 Dalva (Presidential)
3 Dow LBV
3 Ferreira
3 Krohn’s
3 Warre colheita
3 Warre Otima tawny
2 Andresen
2 Andresen colheita
2 Quinta do Crasto LBV
2 Croft LBV
2 Delaforce
2 Delaforce Quinta da Corte
2 Fonseca Quinta do Cruzeiro
2 Fonseca Quinta do Panascal
2 Messias
2 Niepoort Quinta do Passadouro
2 Offley
2 Osborne
2 Pintas
2 Poças
2 Quinta do Portal
2 Rebello Valente
2 Robertson’s Rebello Valente
2 Roriz LBV
2 Smith Woodhouse Madalena
2 Taylor LBV
2 Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita
2 Tesco’s Symington
2 Warre Quinta da Cavadinha
1 Adam
1 Andresen LBV
1 Avery
1 Quinta de Baldias
1 Quinta de Baldias LBV
1 Barros
1 Berry Brothers & Rudd
1 Berry’s Vintage Character
1 Borges
1 Quinta do Bragào colheita
1 Quinta da Brunheda colheita
1 Quinta das Carvalhas
1 Quinta da Cavadinha
1 Churchill crusted
1 Churchill’s Quinta da Agua Alta
1 Churchill’s LBV
1 Croft Platinum Reserve
1 Dalva Golden White colheita
1 Davy’s
1 Delaforce 20Y tawny
1 Delaforce colheita
1 Dow Crusted
1 Dow tawny
1 Duff Gordon
1 Feist colheita
1 Feist LBV
1 Ferreira LBV
1 Quinta do Fojo
1 Fonseca 20Y tawny
1 Fonseca Bin 27
1 Fonseca Terra Prima Reserve
1 Gonzalez Byass
1 Graham’s Reserve
1 Gran Cruz
1 Guedes LBV
1 Hutcheson
1 Quinta do Infantado
1 Kopke Quinta S. Luiz
1 Kopke tawny
1 Krohn colheita
1 Krohn’s Quinta do Retiro Novo
1 Marks & Spencer LBV
1 Mitcheltombs
1 Moreira colheita
1 Niepoort 20Y tawny
1 Niepoort Dry White Port
1 Niepoort Garrafeira
1 Niepoort Secundum
1 Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo LBV
1 Noval Crusted
1 Noval LBV
1 Noval LBV
1 Offley colheita
1 Porto Cruz 20Y tawny
1 Presidential Reserve Golden White Port
1 Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira
1 Ramos Pinto LBV
1 Robertson tawny
1 Quinta da Romaneira
1 Quinta da Romaneira LBV
1 Romariz
1 Royal Oporto
1 Rozès
1 Rozès LBV
1 Sandeman Vau
1 São Pedro das Aguias
1 Smith Woodhouse colheita
1 Taylor Fladgate 10Y tawny
1 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha
1 Quinta do Vale Dona Maria Reserve
1 Quinta de Ventozelo
1 Quinta da Vista Allegre
44 Quinta do Vesuvio
29 Fonseca
26 Graham’s
24 Warre
21 Taylor
20 Nacional
19 Dow
15 Cockburn
14 Croft
13 Noval
13 Sandeman
12 Niepoort
10 Noval colheita
10 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas
9 Graham’s Malvedos
9 Smith Woodhouse
8 Harvey’s (Martinez)
8 Morgan
7 Fonseca Guimaraens
7 Kopke
7 Ramos Pinto
6 Quinta do Crasto
6 Quinta de Roriz
6 Warre LBV
5 Berry Bros Selection
5 Burmester LBV
5 Croft Quinta da Roeda
5 Dow Quinta do Bomfim
5 Gould Campbell
5 Noval Silval
5 Offley Boa Vista
4 Churchill’s
4 Graham’s Crusted
4 Graham’s LBV
4 Kopke colheita
4 Niepoort colheita
4 Quarles Harris
4 Smith Woodhouse LBV
4 Quinta de Vale Meão
3 Burmester
3 Cálem
3 Dalva (Presidential)
3 Dow LBV
3 Ferreira
3 Krohn’s
3 Warre colheita
3 Warre Otima tawny
2 Andresen
2 Andresen colheita
2 Quinta do Crasto LBV
2 Croft LBV
2 Delaforce
2 Delaforce Quinta da Corte
2 Fonseca Quinta do Cruzeiro
2 Fonseca Quinta do Panascal
2 Messias
2 Niepoort Quinta do Passadouro
2 Offley
2 Osborne
2 Pintas
2 Poças
2 Quinta do Portal
2 Rebello Valente
2 Robertson’s Rebello Valente
2 Roriz LBV
2 Smith Woodhouse Madalena
2 Taylor LBV
2 Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita
2 Tesco’s Symington
2 Warre Quinta da Cavadinha
1 Adam
1 Andresen LBV
1 Avery
1 Quinta de Baldias
1 Quinta de Baldias LBV
1 Barros
1 Berry Brothers & Rudd
1 Berry’s Vintage Character
1 Borges
1 Quinta do Bragào colheita
1 Quinta da Brunheda colheita
1 Quinta das Carvalhas
1 Quinta da Cavadinha
1 Churchill crusted
1 Churchill’s Quinta da Agua Alta
1 Churchill’s LBV
1 Croft Platinum Reserve
1 Dalva Golden White colheita
1 Davy’s
1 Delaforce 20Y tawny
1 Delaforce colheita
1 Dow Crusted
1 Dow tawny
1 Duff Gordon
1 Feist colheita
1 Feist LBV
1 Ferreira LBV
1 Quinta do Fojo
1 Fonseca 20Y tawny
1 Fonseca Bin 27
1 Fonseca Terra Prima Reserve
1 Gonzalez Byass
1 Graham’s Reserve
1 Gran Cruz
1 Guedes LBV
1 Hutcheson
1 Quinta do Infantado
1 Kopke Quinta S. Luiz
1 Kopke tawny
1 Krohn colheita
1 Krohn’s Quinta do Retiro Novo
1 Marks & Spencer LBV
1 Mitcheltombs
1 Moreira colheita
1 Niepoort 20Y tawny
1 Niepoort Dry White Port
1 Niepoort Garrafeira
1 Niepoort Secundum
1 Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo LBV
1 Noval Crusted
1 Noval LBV
1 Noval LBV
1 Offley colheita
1 Porto Cruz 20Y tawny
1 Presidential Reserve Golden White Port
1 Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira
1 Ramos Pinto LBV
1 Robertson tawny
1 Quinta da Romaneira
1 Quinta da Romaneira LBV
1 Romariz
1 Royal Oporto
1 Rozès
1 Rozès LBV
1 Sandeman Vau
1 São Pedro das Aguias
1 Smith Woodhouse colheita
1 Taylor Fladgate 10Y tawny
1 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha
1 Quinta do Vale Dona Maria Reserve
1 Quinta de Ventozelo
1 Quinta da Vista Allegre
Re: In order of number of TNs:
We seem to have good tastejdaw1 wrote:This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:
44 Quinta do Vesuvio
29 Fonseca
26 Graham’s
24 Warre
21 Taylor
20 Nacional
19 Dow
15 Cockburn
14 Croft
13 Noval
13 Sandeman
12 Niepoort
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
Re: I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
I'm not too surprised as a large proportion, posted by Axel, LadyR and I, come from Vesuvio vertical tastings at the Quinta. Many others come from Alex 'Vesuvio' Bridgeman - He has a username with a H in the middle instead of a V just to throw us offjdaw1 wrote:I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
“Robertson’s Rebello Valente† and “Rebello Valente†
Just noticed that we had both “Robertson’s Rebello Valente† and “Rebello Valente†. Now merged into the longer name.
- Alex Bridgeman
- Graham’s 1948
- Posts: 14916
- Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
- Location: Berkshire, UK
Re: I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
jdaw1 wrote:I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
TN index updated—apologies for tardiness.
TN index updated—apologies for tardiness. Now so long that it needs three posts (there is an upper limit to the size of a single post, that I think is 32k characters). Front-page link also updated. Comments welcomed.
“new features†: For the newly-arrived or unobservant…
For the newly-arrived or unobservant:DRT wrote:new features
- House names now link to the website for that brand, where one exists and is known to me.
- Each VP brand has been assigned a unique abbreviation, and to encourage their consistent use, they are shown appended by the year (e.g., “BI63† = Borges & Irmão 1963).
- Standardisation of representation of “LBV†, “colheita†, and the like.
- Alex Bridgeman
- Graham’s 1948
- Posts: 14916
- Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
- Location: Berkshire, UK
Re: In order of number of TNs:
This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:
- 55 Ã Graham vintage port
- 49 Ã Quinta do Vesuvio vintage port
- 35 Ã Fonseca vintage port
- 32 Ã Taylor vintage port
- 30 Ã Warre vintage port
- 26 Ã Dow vintage port
- 23 Ã Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port
- 20 Ã Croft vintage port
- 20 Ã Quinta do Noval vintage port
- 19 Ã Cockburn vintage port
- 19 Ã Taylor Quinta de Vargellas vintage port
- 18 Ã Martinez (Harvey) vintage port
- 17 Ã Niepoort vintage port
- 15 Ã Graham Malvedos vintage port
- 13 Ã Ferreira vintage port
- 13 Ã Sandeman vintage port
- 13 Ã Fonseca Guimaraens vintage port
- 12 Ã Warre LBV
- 12 Ã Morgan vintage port
- 11 Ã Quinta do Noval colheita
- 11 Ã Smith Woodhouse vintage port
- 10 Ã Offley Boa Vista vintage port
- 10 Ã Ramos-Pinto vintage port
- 9 Ã Delaforce vintage port
- 9 Ã Kopke vintage port
- 8 Ã Kopke colheita
- 8 Ã Gould Campbell vintage port
- 8 Ã Dow Quinta do Bomfim vintage port
- 7 Ã Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection vintage port
- 7 Ã Quinta de Roriz vintage port
- 7 Ã Noval Silval vintage port
- 6 Ã Burmester LBV
- 6 Ã Quinta do Crasto vintage port
- 6 Ã Croft Quinta da Roeda vintage port
- 5 Ã Robertson Rebello Valente vintage port
- 5 Ã Burmester vintage port
- 5 Ã Churchill vintage port
- 5 Ã Dow LBV
- 5 Ã Graham LBV
- 5 Ã Smith Woodhouse Madalena vintage port
- 5 Ã Quinta do Noval LBV
- 5 Ã Quarles Harris vintage port
- 4 à Cálem vintage port
- 4 Ã Dalva (Presidential) vintage port
- 4 Ã Dow crusted
- 4 Ã Graham crusted
- 4 Ã Niepoort colheita
- 4 à Poças vintage port
- 4 à Rozès LBV
- 4 Ã Smith Woodhouse LBV
- 4 Ã Taylor LBV
- 4 Ã Tesco BOB vintage port
- 4 Ã Warre Quinta da Cavadinha vintage port
- 4 à Quinta de Vale Meão vintage port
- 3 Ã Burmester colheita
- 3 Ã Andresen colheita
- 3 Ã Delaforce Quinta da Corte vintage port
- 3 Ã Niepoort Quinta do Passadouro vintage port
- 3 Ã Royal Oporto vintage port
- 3 Ã Warre colheita
- 3 Ã Warre Otima tawny
- 3 Ã Gonzalez Byass vintage port
- 3 Ã Hutcheson vintage port
- 3 Ã Pintas vintage port
- 3 Ã Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita vintage port
- 2 Ã Offley LBV
- 2 Ã Offley vintage port
- 2 à Borges & Irmão vintage port
- 2 à Cálem colheita
- 2 à Messias Quinta do Cachão vintage port
- 2 Ã Messias vintage port
- 2 Ã Churchill LBV
- 2 Ã Churchill Quinta da Agua Alta vintage port
- 2 Ã Cockburn LBV
- 2 Ã Croft LBV
- 2 Ã Dow tawny
- 2 Ã Fonseca LBV
- 2 Ã Andresen LBV
- 2 Ã Andresen vintage port
- 2 Ã Krohn vintage port
- 2 Ã Niepoort LBV
- 2 Ã Niepoort tawny
- 2 Ã Osborne vintage port
- 2 Ã Quinta da Romaneira vintage port
- 2 Ã Quinta de la Rosa colheita
- 2 Ã Quinta de Roriz LBV
- 2 Ã Quinta de Ventozelo vintage port
- 2 Ã Quinta do Crasto LBV
- 2 Ã Fonseca Quinta do Cruzeiro vintage port
- 2 Ã Quinta do Portal vintage port
- 2 Ã Ramos-Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira vintage port
- 2 Ã Taylor tawny
- 2 Ã Fonseca Quinta do Panascal vintage port
- 2 Ã Quinta do Infantado vintage port
- 1 Ã Robertson Rebello Valente tawny
- 1 Ã Ferreira garrafeira
- 1 Ã Ferreira LBV
- 1 Ã Offley colheita
- 1 Ã Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection vintage character
- 1 Ã Dalva (Presidential) Golden White colheita
- 1 Ã Dalva (Presidential) Golden White Reserve
- 1 Ã Churchill crusted
- 1 Ã Cockburn Reserve
- 1 Ã Cockburn ruby
- 1 Ã Croft Distinction Reserve
- 1 Ã Croft Platinum Reserve
- 1 Ã Croft pink
- 1 Ã Delaforce colheita
- 1 Ã Delaforce tawny
- 1 Ã Dow colheita
- 1 Ã Fonseca Bin 27 Reserve
- 1 Ã Fonseca Terra Prima Reserve
- 1 Ã Fonseca crusted
- 1 Ã Fonseca tawny
- 1 Ã Graham Reserve
- 1 Ã Kopke LBV
- 1 Ã Kopke tawny
- 1 Ã Krohn colheita
- 1 Ã Krohn tawny
- 1 Ã Marks & Spencer BOB LBV
- 1 Ã Marks & Spencer BOB pink
- 1 Ã Niepoort Secundum vintage port
- 1 Ã Niepoort dry white
- 1 Ã Niepoort garrafeira
- 1 Ã Barros colheita
- 1 Ã Barros vintage port
- 1 Ã Cruz tawny
- 1 Ã Cruz vintage port
- 1 Ã Quinta da Romaneira LBV
- 1 Ã Quinta de la Rosa LBV
- 1 Ã Quinta do Noval crusted
- 1 Ã Quinta do Noval Reserve
- 1 Ã Quinta do Noval tawny
- 1 Ã Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo LBV
- 1 Ã Ramos-Pinto Collector Reserve
- 1 Ã Ramos-Pinto LBV
- 1 Ã Ramos-Pinto white port
- 1 Ã Royal Oporto Quinta das Carvalhas vintage port
- 1 à Rozès tawny
- 1 à Rozès vintage port
- 1 Ã Sandeman Imperial Reserve
- 1 Ã Sandeman Vau vintage port
- 1 Ã Smith Woodhouse colheita
- 1 Ã Sogevinus Honorable tawny
- 1 Ã Unknown vintage port
- 1 Ã Quinta do Vale Dona Maria Reserve
- 1 Ã Quinta da Vista Allegre LBV
- 1 Ã Quinta da Vista Allegre vintage port
- 1 Ã Adam vintage port
- 1 Ã Avery vintage port
- 1 Ã Davy vintage port
- 1 Ã Duff Gordon vintage port
- 1 Ã Feist colheita
- 1 Ã Feist LBV
- 1 Ã Guedes LBV
- 1 à Kopke Quinta São Luiz vintage port
- 1 Ã Krohn Quinta do Retiro Novo vintage port
- 1 Ã Mitcheltombs vintage port
- 1 Ã Moreira colheita
- 1 Ã Quarles Harris LBV
- 1 Ã Quinta da Brunheda colheita
- 1 Ã Quinta de Baldias LBV
- 1 Ã Quinta de Baldias vintage port
- 1 à Quinta do Bragào colheita
- 1 à Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Aguias vintage port
- 1 Ã Quinta do Fojo vintage port
- 1 Ã Quinta do Infantado LBV
- 1 Ã Quinta do Javali LBV
- 1 Ã Rainha Santa vintage port
- 1 Ã Romariz vintage port
- 1 Ã Santos Junior vintage port
- 1 Ã Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha vintage port
Re: In order of number of TNs:
We continue to have excellent tastejdaw1 wrote:This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:
- 55 Ã Graham vintage port
- 49 Ã Quinta do Vesuvio vintage port
- 35 Ã Fonseca vintage port
- 32 Ã Taylor vintage port
- 30 Ã Warre vintage port
- 26 Ã Dow vintage port
- 23 Ã Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port
- 20 Ã Croft vintage port
- 20 Ã Quinta do Noval vintage port
- 19 Ã Cockburn vintage port
Can I suggest that "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port" should appear as "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port"?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: In order of number of TNs:
You may suggest it. The software can do “Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port†, which isn’t quite what you ask.DRT wrote:Can I suggest that "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port" should appear as "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port"?
Or find a better link, which may be a deep-link.
Re: In order of number of TNs:
Their site uses Flashiness that prevents me from isolating a url to a Nacional-only page. Your compromise is better than nothing.jdaw1 wrote:You may suggest it. The software can do “Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port†, which isn’t quite what you ask.DRT wrote:Can I suggest that "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port" should appear as "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port"?
Or find a better link, which may be a deep-link.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
the database has been updated so it’ll appear next time
Can’t be bothered with the complicated copy-pasting right now, but the database has been updated so it’ll appear next time I can.
Admin: please send me the data
Admin: please send me the data and the recent tastings can be included.
Works for me.
Works for me.