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JacobH wrote:There's also a random bottle of Noval floating around in the "D" section.
Fixed.
JacobH wrote:Madalena was a typo; sorry. For the others I have: donamaria=valededonamaria (do people expect "Vale de X" quintas to be under V or under X?); gontelho=javali (I had been working on the principle that the quinta had been renamed, but I might be wrong); and novanossasenhoracarmo=nova. Your thoughts?
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Have there been enough additions to the tasting notes for it to be worth an update?
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Yes.

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jdaw1 wrote:Yes.

Admin: please cope tomorrow, or as soon as possible thereafter.
I can cope perfectly well today.
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admin wrote:I can cope perfectly well today.
Excellent, though I can’t cope until late tomorrow.
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jdaw1 wrote:
admin wrote:I can cope perfectly well today.
Excellent, though I can’t cope until late tomorrow.
OK, will just have to cope tomorrow instead. Send me a reminder - I will have slept by then.
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Indexes updated: alphabetical, date.
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My map tags, also being the html id within-page tags, are as follows.


LinkToMap; tag; Display Name

✠—; adams; Adams
✠“; casaamarela; Quinta da Casa Amarela
✠—; andresen; Andresen
✠—; avery; Avery
✠—; baldias; Quinta de Baldias
✠—; baraovilar; Barão de Vilar
✠—; barros; Barros
✠—; berrybros; Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection
✠—; borgesirmao; Borges & Irmão
✠—; andresen; Quinta do Bragào
✠—; broadbent; Broadbent
✠—; brunheda; Quinta da Brunheda
✠—; burmester; Burmester
✠—; butlernephew; Butler Nephew
✠—; calem; Cálem
✠“; foz; Cálem Quinta da Foz
✠—; castelinho; Quinta do Castelinho
✠“; cotto; Champalimaud Quinta do Côtto
✠—; churchill; Churchill
✠“; aguaalta; Churchill Quinta da Agua Alta
✠—; cockburn; Cockburn
✠“; canais; Cockburn Quinta dos Canais
✠—; constantino; Constantino
✠—; cortez; Cortez
✠“; crasto; Quinta do Crasto
✠—; croft; Croft
✠—; roeda; Croft Quinta da Roeda
✠—; cruz; Cruz
✠—; dalva; Dalva (aka Presidential, aka C da Silva)
✠—; davy; Davy
✠—; delaforce; Delaforce
✠“; corte; Delaforce Quinta da Corte
✠“; donamaria; Quinta do Vale Dona Maria
✠—; donamatilde; Dona Matilde
✠—; dow; Dow
✠“; bomfim; Dow Quinta do Bomfim
✠—; duffgordon; Duff Gordon
✠—; duorum; Duorum
✠—; elvirogarcia; Elviro Garcia
✠“; csteufemia; Casa de Santa Eufémia
✠—; feist; Feist
✠—; ferreira; Ferreira
✠“; seixo; Ferreira Quinta do Seixo
✠“; porto; Ferreira Quinta do Porto
✠“; fojo; Quinta do Fojo
✠—; fonseca; Fonseca
✠“; cruzeiro; Fonseca Quinta do Cruzeiro
✠“; panascal; Fonseca Quinta do Panascal
✠—; gilbert; Gilbert
✠—; gonzalezbyass; González Byass
✠—; gonzalezm; M. Gonzalez
✠—; gordon; Gordon’s
✠—; gouldcampbell; Gould Campbell
✠—; graham; Graham
✠“; lages; Graham Quinta das Lages
✠“; malvedos; Graham Malvedos
✠—; guedes; Guedes
✠—; hooper; Hooper
✠—; hutcheson; Hutcheson
✠“; infantado; Quinta do Infantado
✠“; gontelho; Quinta do Javali
✠—; kopke; Kopke
✠“; saoluiz; Kopke Quinta São Luiz
✠—; krohn; Krohn
✠“; retironovo; Krohn Quinta do Retiro Novo
✠—; liceiras; Quinta das Liceiras
✠—; magalhaes; Magalhães
✠—; manuela; Quinta do Mañuela
✠—; martinez; Martinez (Harvey)
✠—; chousa; Martinez Quinta da Chousa
✠“; eiravelha; Quinta da Eira Velha
✠“; meao; Quinta de Vale Meão
✠—; mendiz; Vale de Mendiz
✠—; messias; Messias
✠“; cachao; Messias Quinta do Cachão
✠—; mina; Quinta Vale da Mina
✠—; moreira; Moreira
✠—; morgadiocalcada; Morgadio da Calçada
✠—; morgan; Morgan
✠—; mourao; Quinta do Mourão
✠—; niepoort; Niepoort
✠—; pisca; Niepoort Pisca
✠“; novanossasenhoracarmo; Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo
✠“; noval; Quinta do Noval
✠“; novalnacional; Quinta do Noval Nacional
✠—; offley; Offley
✠“; boavista; Offley Boa Vista
✠—; osborne; Osborne
✠“; pacheca; Quinta da Pacheca
✠“; passadouro; Quinta do Passadouro
✠—; petre; Petre’s
✠“; pintas; Pintas
✠—; pocas; Poças
✠—; portal; Quinta do Portal
✠—; quarlesharris; Quarles Harris
✠—; quevedo; Quevedo
✠—; rainhasanta; Rainha Santa
✠—; ramos-pinto; Ramos-Pinto
✠“; ervamoira; Ramos-Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira
✠—; urtiga; Ramos-Pinto Quinta da Urtiga
✠—; rebellovalente; Robertson Rebello Valente
✠—; roncao; Robertson Quinta do Roncão
✠—; rocha; Rocha
✠“; romaneira; Quinta da Romaneira
✠—; romariz; Romariz
✠“; roriz; Quinta de Roriz
✠“; rosa; Quinta de la Rosa
✠—; inferno; Quinta de la Rosa Vale do Inferno
✠—; royaloporto; Royal Oporto
✠“; carvalhas; Royal Oporto Quinta das Carvalhas
✠—; rozes; Rozès
✠—; sandeman; Sandeman
✠“; conventopedro; Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias
✠“; senhoradaribeira; Quinta Senhora da Ribeira
✠—; sibio; Quinta do Sibio
✠—; skeffington; Skeffington
✠—; smithwoodhouse; Smith Woodhouse
✠“; madalena; Smith Woodhouse Madalena
✠—; souza; Souza
✠—; taylor; Taylor
✠“; junco; Taylor Quinta do Junco
✠“; terrafeita; Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita
✠“; vargellas; Taylor Quinta de Vargellas
✠“; tedo; Quinta do Tedo
✠“; tua; Quinta do Tua
✠—; tukeholdsworth; Tuke Holdsworth
✠“; vallado; Quinta do Vallado
✠“; ventozelo; Quinta de Ventozelo
✠“; vesuvio; Quinta do Vesuvio
✠“; vistaallegre; Quinta da Vista Allegre
✠—; warre; Warre
✠“; cavadinha; Warre Quinta da Cavadinha
✠—; zimbro; Quinta do Zimbro

Your tag for Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias contains spaces; please could it become conventopedro?
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jdaw1 wrote:Your tag for Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias contains spaces; please could it become conventopedro?
Ah, that's because it had a dot in it. Changed now.

Am I right in thinking that the following are the Quintas that are missing from the map?
jdaw1 wrote: LinkToMap; tag; Display Name
✠—; baldias; Quinta de Baldias
✠—; andresen; Quinta do Bragào
✠—; brunheda; Quinta da Brunheda
✠—; castelinho; Quinta do Castelinho
✠—; roeda; Croft Quinta da Roeda
✠—; donamatilde; Dona Matilde
✠—; liceiras; Quinta das Liceiras
✠—; manuela; Quinta do Mañuela
✠—; chousa; Martinez Quinta da Chousa
✠—; mendiz; Vale de Mendiz
✠—; mina; Quinta Vale da Mina
✠—; morgadiocalcada; Morgadio da Calçada
✠—; mourao; Quinta do Mourão
✠—; portal; Quinta do Portal
✠—; urtiga; Ramos-Pinto Quinta da Urtiga
✠—; roncao; Robertson Quinta do Roncão
✠—; inferno; Quinta de la Rosa Vale do Inferno
✠—; sibio; Quinta do Sibio
✠—; zimbro; Quinta do Zimbro
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Hence the ✠—s, indicating absence of ‟(map)” links for these. But if and when added to the map, please use my tags (and tell me that they’ve been added).
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Aside: I have guessed which Nova is this. If you know, please answer question in that thread.
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jdaw1 wrote:Hence the ✠—s, indicating absence of ‟(map)” links for these.
Indeed; I was trying to extract the Quintas from the list (most of those without a reference are shippers) and attempting to confirm if I had missed any.
jdaw1 wrote:But if and when added to the map, please use my tags.
Certainly, though shouldn't Morgadio da Calçada be calcada rather morgadiocalcada since the name of the estate is Casa da Calçada? And should Quinta do Bragào be bragao rather than andresen?
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JacobH wrote:shouldn't Morgadio da Calçada be calcada rather morgadiocalcada since the name of the estate is Casa da Calçada? And should Quinta do Bragào be bragao rather than andresen?
I am less fussy about the tags than about us agreeing. My tables updated as suggested.
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As of 21 October 2010, indexes updated: alphabetical, date.
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A bottle of Dow 1985 is, unexpectedly, listed as a Duorum 1985.
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Ooops. If chief admin could please send me fresh data, I’ll update and repair.
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The link to the shipper's website in the TN index for this TN is broken.
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In the Date index Quinta do Bomfim is prefixed "Dow" but Quinta Senhora da Ribeira is not.
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Something has gone badly wrong in the index.

This is indexed as Warre 2008 in the date index and there are lots of the 2008 TN's that I posted that are not in that index. TV and TTF being two examples.
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jdaw1 wrote:Ooops. If chief admin could please send me fresh data, I’ll update and repair.
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This one incorrectly indexed. Should be with the other Tesco 94s, not as QH94.
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jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Ooops. If chief admin could please send me fresh data, I’ll update and repair.
Please?
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I’m not sure if this will be caught by the planed bug-fix but in the alphabetical list, this Fonseca 1977 is indexed as a Roeda ’77.
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Indexes updated: alphabetical, date. I have tried to check or rebuild everything. In doing so (most of) the errors above have been fixed. Quite possibly new errors have been introduced.

Thanks to ARK for sending the data.
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jdaw1 wrote:Indexes updated: alphabetical, date. I have tried to check or rebuild everything. In doing so (most of) the errors above have been fixed.
Thank you! (But indexes not indices?).
jdaw1 wrote:Quite possibly new errors have been introduced.
I am not sure if this is a new error, but the alphabetic index now classifies a lot of bottles as Unknown which appear to otherwise be well-described. It appears that the only ones where the shipper is, in fact, unknown from the thread title are those reviews by RMW on the 21 Jun 2007; the NV bottle and those <1924. Perhaps, also, as a new feature, an unclassified category should be added for the first two of those categories?

Additionally, in the date-index, the majority of the unknowns appear to be aged tawnies. It would be nice, if possible, if they could be classified together in their proper sections but I am not sure if the technology allows this.
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