The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by AHB » 14:47 Wed 19 Dec 2018

Should we start a thread on TPF to help the author with his second edition? We could create a list of Ports we encounter which are not mentioned in the book, along with photographic evidence to back up our findings.
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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by gerwin.degraaf » 15:53 Wed 19 Dec 2018

AHB wrote:
14:47 Wed 19 Dec 2018
Should we start a thread on TPF to help the author with his second edition? We could create a list of Ports we encounter which are not mentioned in the book, along with photographic evidence to back up our findings.
Sounds like a plan! I would be more than happy to help :D

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by jdaw1 » 21:32 Wed 19 Dec 2018

AHB wrote:
14:47 Wed 19 Dec 2018
Should we start a thread on TPF to help the author with his second edition? We could create a list of Ports we encounter which are not mentioned in the book, along with photographic evidence to back up our findings.
The Book wrote:Errors surely remain. Those outside quotations are mine; those inside quotations might also be mine, but at least sometimes are of whoever is quoted.

It is intended to list errata and additions at www.PortVintages.com.
Such a document is already being drafted. Please do send contributions, with details: auction house, date, lot number, photographs; when and where drunk, for what occasion, where and how documented, tasting notes, and photographs again. Yes please.

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by differentdave » 20:34 Thu 20 Dec 2018

Received the book on Tuesday evening. Box was opened on one side and book had been removed from package, placed back into box and box repaired with packing tape. Aside from bent covers and little spine damagd book looks super awesome (love the size of the pages, the font and font size, pictures and graphics look great, etc). I am very excited to start reading the book. Dow 63 and 77 are the first 2 bottles I plan on drinking while reading.
Congrats again Julian mazel tov!

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by jdaw1 » 22:39 Thu 20 Dec 2018

differentdave wrote:
20:34 Thu 20 Dec 2018
Received the book on Tuesday evening. Box was opened on one side and book had been removed from package, placed back into box and box repaired with packing tape. Aside from bent covers and little spine damagd book looks super awesome (love the size of the pages, the font and font size, pictures and graphics look great, etc). I am very excited to start reading the book. Dow 63 and 77 are the first 2 bottles I plan on drinking while reading.
Congrats again Julian mazel tov!
I’m sorry the fulfilment company has been incompetent.

And thank you to all, including you, who have accepted a ‘working copy’ in the slightly imperfect condition that it might have reached anyway. Even though only ‘might’.

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by Old Bridge » 17:35 Fri 21 Dec 2018

The Book arrived in Telemark, Norway today.
Slightly damp cardboard, torn hole in one corner.
Book however, in perfect condition.
Thank You!

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Post by g-man » 23:58 Wed 26 Dec 2018

Book arrived here in NY, slight ding on the corners but otherwise vrey good condition
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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by djewesbury » 18:25 Fri 28 Dec 2018

Book arrived in Gothenburg today. It’s in perfect condition, no shipping problems.

Marvellous to browse through. I already have one amendment for second edition...

Listed as “Maren” on p. 541, the photographed entry in fact reads “Waren” - that’s an 18th-century upper case roundhand W at the start (see, for instance, this handwriting primer for the two versions of W in use at this point.

I look forward to reading and finding further errors. Well done, JDAW.
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Post by jdaw1 » 19:07 Fri 28 Dec 2018

djewesbury wrote:
18:25 Fri 28 Dec 2018
Marvellous to browse through. I already have one amendment for second edition...
Even at a distance of 650 miles the smugness is palpable. Well done.

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Post by SushiNorth » 15:22 Sun 30 Dec 2018

differentdave wrote:
20:34 Thu 20 Dec 2018
Received the book on Tuesday [dec 18]evening.
g-man wrote:
23:58 Wed 26 Dec 2018
Book arrived here in NY
Fingers crossed that mine's not far behind, but it hasn't arrived yet...
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Post by TLW » 06:56 Mon 31 Dec 2018

The book arrived in Illinois on Christmas Eve, and looks excellent.

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by Will W. » 16:13 Tue 01 Jan 2019

AHB wrote:
14:47 Wed 19 Dec 2018
Should we start a thread on TPF to help the author with his second edition? We could create a list of Ports we encounter which are not mentioned in the book, along with photographic evidence to back up our findings.
A possible contribution:

The author expressed uncertainty whether Burmester produced a VP in 1934; it may well have done so, though if that is the case Burmester would appear to have used the term 'vintage' rather loosely. One refers to the inclusion of 'bottled November 1936' and 'decanted July 1945' on the label(s), the reference to decanting taking the form of a distinct sticker affixed below the main label. There is also a selo, which (if I understand correctly that selos appeared only well after the War) may point to Burmester releasing the bottles in, say, the 1960s. A late release as well as questions regarding whether the 1934 is a vintage port as opposed to a garrafeira (in the Nieport sense), may explain why the '34 does not appear on the vintage lists cited by the author which reference other Burmester VPs produced during the pre-War period.

I purchased two bottles privately in Portugal in 2016; one of them was consumed that year with the second remaining in my cellar. I have seen the occasional bottle on offer in Portugal since that time, not least being moved by handlers whom I have no reason to distrust. Of course, there is always the possibility of forgery, though I think that unlikely in this instance as the wine in the bottle which was consumed in 2016 was clearly older port. At that time - and indeed now - I did not have sufficient tasting experience to distinguish betwixt an older VP and a garrafeira. What was clear to me at the time was that the port had been aged in glass, rather than in wood.

Finally, I should like to join the cacophony of praise for this fine volume; it will be of great use, not least to those of us in the habit of purchasing older, single bottles in a market (i.e., Portugal) where establishing the provenance of such finds is generally very difficult.

With my apologies for being unable to figure out how to get the photo of the bottle upright on this forum:


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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by jdaw1 » 18:28 Tue 01 Jan 2019

Will W. wrote:
16:13 Tue 01 Jan 2019
AHB wrote:
14:47 Wed 19 Dec 2018
Should we start a thread on TPF to help the author with his second edition? We could create a list of Ports we encounter which are not mentioned in the book, along with photographic evidence to back up our findings.
A possible contribution
The Introduction says “It is intended to list errata and additions at www.PortVintages.com.” It still is.

And I’ve started gathering data. Please would you email me (contact information) a really good picture of the bottle, for inclusion in the Errata, with credit to you? I’m hoping for face on (not at an angle), in good light, with good focus, at high resolution. That is, I’m hoping for the picture you would want in your reference book. Please sir?

Thank you.

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by Will W. » 13:47 Wed 02 Jan 2019

jdaw1 wrote:
18:28 Tue 01 Jan 2019
Please would you email me (contact information) a really good picture of the bottle, for inclusion in the Errata, with credit to you? I’m hoping for face on (not at an angle), in good light, with good focus, at high resolution. That is, I’m hoping for the picture you would want in your reference book. Please sir?
It shall be done, with pleasure.

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by SushiNorth » 05:08 Mon 04 Feb 2019

Book arrived; after some assistance from homebase. I saved "unboxing" until it could be done with some accompaniment, and selected a slightly older and less frequently seen wine for the occasion. There was a flaw in the plan, which i trust JDAW will spot immediately :)

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by PopulusTremula » 22:00 Fri 08 Feb 2019

Lux-ed received today. Execeptionally well wrapped, almost obsessively so (a good thing surely), in multiple layers of bubble wrap, zip loc bag, paper and what not. Book looks fab, sumptuous leather, gilt-edged paper - wonderful workmanship!

Now sitting down to enjoy the cloth bound copy received before Christmas - T85 as a companion. The leather bound copy shall not be pawed by my grubby mitts.

In all, very pleased i am indeed.

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Re: The Book, ‘Port Vintages’, is for sale

Post by AHB » 23:49 Fri 08 Feb 2019

I love my leather bound edition; so much so that it is still wrapped!
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2017 Ports of the year: Fonseca 1927 and Quinta do Noval 1927

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Post by jdaw1 » 10:59 Sat 09 Feb 2019

PopulusTremula wrote:
22:00 Fri 08 Feb 2019
Lux-ed received today. Execeptionally well wrapped, almost obsessively so (a good thing surely), in multiple layers of bubble wrap, zip loc bag, paper and what not. Book looks fab, sumptuous leather, gilt-edged paper - wonderful workmanship!
Four more being wrapped today.

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Post by Glenn E. » 03:10 Mon 11 Feb 2019


SushiNorth wrote:There was a flaw in the plan, which i trust JDAW will spot immediately :)
It appears to me that the Port in the glass is not from the decanter, and if my suspicion is correct then I approve.
Glenn Elliott

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