1993 - A hunt

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1993 - A hunt

Post by ThomasBarleycorn » 12:32 Mon 20 Aug 2018

Hello,

I'm afraid I seem to be unfortunately cursed by having been born in 1993. It's coming up to my 25th in December and while I have a few very good 1994 Ports and plenty of drinking well 1993 table wines, I'd really like a Port from 1993. Suggestions of blending some of my stocks of 1992 and 1994 same producers have already been received. :lol:

So It's a total wild stab, but does anyone on here have a bottle of anything Port from 1993, for one and be willing to part with it for another? Or at the least suggestions of where to get it, or advice to give it up as a non-starter.

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Re: 1993 - A hunt

Post by uncle tom » 20:57 Mon 20 Aug 2018

There is only one known declared vintage port from 1993, Q. Licieras, but it's really hard to find, and the only known stockist (in Portugal) is holding out for an absurd amount.

There are a small number of LBVs also, and the Q. Crasto LBV is actually a decent wine, but again, hard to find.

I am under stocked on the vintage, so have nothing to spare.

If you look at it from the bottling date perspective however, you could celebrate with a 1991 vintage port bottled in 1993 - of the ones that are easy to locate, the Graham is probably the best.

I could supply a bottle with good label for £45.00. There are also other good, but less well known vintage ports from 1991 which are cheaper, such as Morgan and Q. de la Rosa.
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Re: 1993 - A hunt

Post by PhilW » 11:51 Tue 21 Aug 2018

Vintage port from 1993 is essentially a non-starter, as Tom describes. I would suggest either looking at VP from 1991 bottled in 1993, or alternatively you could look for Colheita (essentially vintage tawny port) from that year, such as the Kopke 1993 Colheita.

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Re: 1993 - A hunt

Post by ThomasBarleycorn » 19:52 Thu 04 Oct 2018

Any more ideas or joy please gentlemen?
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Re: 1993 - A hunt

Post by AHB » 17:41 Mon 08 Oct 2018

Barros also made a late bottled vintage port from grapes grown in 1993. Wine Searcher shows a couple of retailers, but they want significant amounts of money for a bottle.
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Re: 1993 - A hunt

Post by akzy » 13:42 Thu 29 Nov 2018

Join the '93 club! I've been very fortunate to be able to get a bottle from '93 (quinta das liceiras) - to give you a heads up, I paid £200 for it a few months back.

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Post by ThomasBarleycorn » 16:21 Tue 04 Dec 2018

Ah, very interesting! Did they have anymore?

Is the '93 club a thing, because I would buy all of their things. Working for a Wine Merchant all the '93 stuff lands on my desk first :lol:
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Post by akzy » 17:36 Tue 04 Dec 2018

ThomasBarleycorn wrote:
16:21 Tue 04 Dec 2018
Ah, very interesting! Did they have anymore?

Is the '93 club a thing, because I would buy all of their things. Working for a Wine Merchant all the '93 stuff lands on my desk first :lol:
Maybe we should start the '93 club :)

I'm afraid the place didn't have anymore. I imported it from a Portuguese vendor.

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Post by Andy Velebil » 18:26 Tue 04 Dec 2018

Just don’t buy it from this place in Porto. The price tag washed out with the flash but it reads 999 Euros!

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Post by akzy » 23:20 Tue 04 Dec 2018

Andy Velebil wrote:
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Just don’t buy it from this place in Porto. The price tag washed out with the flash but it reads 999 Euros!
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Funny you should say that Andy. I believe that is the first place I saw it!!

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Re: 1993 - A hunt

Post by ThomasBarleycorn » 22:59 Wed 05 Dec 2018

akzy wrote:
17:36 Tue 04 Dec 2018
ThomasBarleycorn wrote:
16:21 Tue 04 Dec 2018
Ah, very interesting! Did they have anymore?

Is the '93 club a thing, because I would buy all of their things. Working for a Wine Merchant all the '93 stuff lands on my desk first :lol:
Maybe we should start the '93 club :)

I'm afraid the place didn't have anymore. I imported it from a Portuguese vendor.
We should indeed, invite all those who happen to have the misfortune to be born in a non vintage, even wash out year. "Misfortune Club"? 😅

Plenty of Bordeaux and Rhone wine still around, and I've got a Italian Barolo lying up. Just need to get drinking it all.
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Post by akzy » 10:52 Thu 06 Dec 2018

I hereby declare the opening of the Misfortune Club!

I actually don't have much else in terms of '93 (or any space left to store things). I've been looking at trying to get some sweet wines - I've heard Royal Tojaki is very good for our vintage, if not quite expensive.

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Post by AHB » 18:30 Thu 06 Dec 2018

I have a godson who was born in 1993. I couldn’t get him a case of port from his birth year but I did get him a case of Tokaji - it is a superb year for Tokaji. There are also some pretty good Australian wines, if my memory serves me well.
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Post by DRT » 19:02 Tue 14 Jan 2020

I placed 24 of these in my wine fridge this afternoon and it reminded me of this thread 88)
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Post by winesecretary » 19:19 Tue 14 Jan 2020

Gosh, that really is uncommon. There's no tasting note for it on the tasting notes database; possibly a candidate for the in-the-works 'ports for which there isn't a tasting note on the tasting notes database' tasting...

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Post by DRT » 19:35 Tue 14 Jan 2020

winesecretary wrote:
19:19 Tue 14 Jan 2020
Gosh, that really is uncommon. There's no tasting note for it on the tasting notes database; possibly a candidate for the in-the-works 'ports for which there isn't a tasting note on the tasting notes database' tasting...
I bought a case of halves from the quinta when I was there in 2006. They are for my son as it is his birth year. To date he has shown absolutely no interest in Port but am holding onto them for him for now as the case is becoming quite valuable because of the rarity.

I know of one single bottle of this that is owned by someone here who might be willing to open it for the tasting you refer to :wink:
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Post by DRT » 19:38 Tue 14 Jan 2020

I also have six of these, bought for the same purpose.
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Post by Andy Velebil » 02:25 Wed 15 Jan 2020

DRT wrote:
19:38 Tue 14 Jan 2020
I also have six of these, bought for the same purpose.

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I've recently had the 1994 several times and it's mature but still quite nice. I hope those are doing as well, but the year wasn't so good...

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Post by DRT » 02:50 Wed 15 Jan 2020

Andy Velebil wrote:
02:25 Wed 15 Jan 2020
the year wasn't so good...
Certainly true, but from a different region to Port and with no big mountains in the way to cause the clouds to drop their worst on the vineyards like they did in the Douro.
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I have a feeling we might both know the answer to whether or not these are any good in September :wink:
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Post by akzy » 12:23 Wed 15 Jan 2020

DRT wrote:
19:35 Tue 14 Jan 2020
I know of one single bottle of this that is owned by someone here who might be willing to open it for the tasting you refer to :wink:
If you are referring to me, unfortunately I'm saving this for my viva voce... next Friday. I will be having it sometime around then with my dad. I'll try and remember to make some notes and post them.

In further 1993 Port search news, I managed to get a Cockburns Anno 1993 (filtered LBV) for a steal. Although rare I'm not really expecting much - still nice to try from my vintage.

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Post by DRT » 15:41 Wed 15 Jan 2020

akzy wrote:
12:23 Wed 15 Jan 2020
DRT wrote:
19:35 Tue 14 Jan 2020
I know of one single bottle of this that is owned by someone here who might be willing to open it for the tasting you refer to :wink:
If you are referring to me, unfortunately I'm saving this for my viva voce... next Friday. I will be having it sometime around then with my dad. I'll try and remember to make some notes and post them.

In further 1993 Port search news, I managed to get a Cockburns Anno 1993 (filtered LBV) for a steal. Although rare I'm not really expecting much - still nice to try from my vintage.
Nope, wasn't you I was hinting at :wink:

Good work on finding the Cockburn LBV - rare indeed!

Enjoy the bottle with your Dad and please post a tasting note.
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Post by uncle tom » 12:58 Thu 16 Jan 2020

I know of one single bottle of this that is owned by someone here who might be willing to open it
Certainly, but not just yet.

One of my house rules is that the last bottle from each vintage must be preserved until it's 200th year. That can also be the only bottle.

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