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Everyone and anyone is invited to use this thread to nominate a bottle or few which they would really, really like to try at some point in the future. You never know, perhaps someone here has the chance to make your wish come true. Don't be shy about nominating anything, but don't go overboard with a long laundry list - you can always make a second post (or third, or fourth...) once your bucket list has been achieved.

And to start things off, here's mine:
- a good bottle of Smith Woodhouse 1963 vintage port
- any other 1963 vintage port I've not tried yet (anyone want the list?)
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A starter for you... The first because I want to try all the shippers that produced my birth year vintage of 1972 and this one the most. So far the ones I have tasted include just TV, FG and a truely marvellous bottle of OBV that Derek was kind enough to share. The second because I have read some marvellous tasting notes, and heard some lyrical reviews of what is a port that is realistically possible to taste at some point, rather than opt for a perfect magnum of Noval Nacional 1963 from the Quinta cellars I may not be fortunate enough to come across. The third because I love my Tawnies and have been lucky enough to have a glass of Taylor's Scion, try a Sandemans Cask33 and have a number of other premium release aged Tawnies...but I would very much like to try the Graham's Ne Oublie.

SCD's Bucket List

1. Dow 1972 VP
2. Niepoort 1945 VP
3. Graham's Ne Oublie 1882 Wood aged Tawny
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AHB wrote:(anyone want the list?)
Post it anyway, for the reasons you gave.

Dow 1878.
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jdaw1 wrote:Dow 1878.
+1

Which was the 19th century Croft that was declared but "suspected" to be wine from the previous generally declared vintage? 1869?

I want to taste that one.

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If only.

From memory, reported that the grapes were 1868, but for reasons of stubbornness marketed as 1869 (perhaps also Martinez '69). But both years of Croft were seen at auction.

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jdaw1 wrote:Dow 1878.
Care to say why?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Doggett wrote:A starter for you... The first because I want to try all the shippers that produced my birth year vintage of 1972 and this one the most. So far the ones I have tasted include just TV, FG and a truely marvellous bottle of OBV that Derek was kind enough to share. The second because I have read some marvellous tasting notes, and heard some lyrical reviews of what is a port that is realistically possible to taste at some point, rather than opt for a perfect magnum of Noval Nacional 1963 from the Quinta cellars I may not be fortunate enough to come across. The third because I love my Tawnies and have been lucky enough to have a glass of Taylor's Scion, try a Sandemans Cask33 and have a number of other premium release aged Tawnies...but I would very much like to try the Graham's Ne Oublie.

SCD's Bucket List

1. Dow 1972 VP
2. Niepoort 1945 VP
3. Graham's Ne Oublie 1882 Wood aged Tawny
Nice explanations, which made for interesting reading.

I have no Ne Oublie in my cellar, but I believe that you can buy it by the glass at the Lodge / Vinum restaurant...
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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jdaw1 wrote:From memory, reported that the grapes were 1868, but for reasons of stubbornness marketed as 1869 (perhaps also Martinez '69). But both years of Croft were seen at auction.
I might reference one J Wiseman;
jdaw1 wrote:
Doggett wrote:HENRY. Cockburn '69.
Sixty-nine?! Faked by Croft; produced by none other (I scorn your sole reference to Martinez.)
Found when just about to add to the "Port and literature" thread.

Anyway, I hope the following counts as bucket list material; I would love a case of Fonseca 77 to sip gradually through the years. Just because it is a masterpiece. The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
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1963 Smith Woodhouse as well. Simply as it's probably the only major classically declared VP I've not had from the past 53 years (those regarded as top notch producers that is). And it's one I've never seen come up for sale and I've never seen a bottle of it. Unicorn, it is.
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I just had a quick search for SW63 in all of the usual places. The only hit I found was that one member of the CellarTracker community has one listed in their stock. As I am not registered with CT I cannot hunt him down. Do we have any members here with advanced training on forensic investigation and detection?
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DRT wrote:I just had a quick search for SW63 in all of the usual places. The only hit I found was that one member of the CellarTracker community has one listed in their stock. As I am not registered with CT I cannot hunt him down. Do we have any members here with advanced training on forensic investigation and detection?
I'll work on it. Thanks for the heads up. :)


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I could list Ports from the 19th century but hopefully more realistically, the following (two from the same house and two from the same year):

Ni70 (slightly surprising that I don't believe I have tasted this)
Ni55
F27
Ck27
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PW's Port Bucket List
Av63 - ideally alongside the component wines
Ni55 - perhaps this might happen at the 55s tasting in 2017
NN63 - one day I would love to try this
F27 & W27 - my two favourite houses
Niepooort VV - the original version

[edited to remove port I have been lucky enough to drink since posting the list]
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Would love to do a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912

As for Dow '72, I can easily spare a bottle..
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A fairly simple one without wanting to go 'overboard'.

T1970 vs TQdV1970
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uncle tom wrote:Would love to do a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912
I am available that day.
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jdaw1 wrote:
uncle tom wrote:Would love to do a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912
I am available that day.
Even if the day is 1st April?
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AHB wrote:Even if the day is 1st April?
I could get permission for a Saturday tasting. Could you?
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jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:Even if the day is 1st April?
I could get permission for a Saturday tasting. Could you?
Whether it's a Saturday or not depends on which year the tasting is held. And if it was on a Saturday perhaps I could host it - that's what I had to do last time I got permission for a Saturday tasting in October 2013.
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Thank you.

Julian Wiseman accepts the kind invitation of Alex Bridgeman to a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912, on Saturday 1st April 2016.

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jdaw1 wrote:Thank you.

Julian Wiseman accepts the kind invitation of Alex Bridgeman to a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912, on Saturday 1st April 2016.

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That'll teach me to use Tapatalk. Damn!

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LGTrotter wrote: 01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
They seem to have done so. CMAG and I shared a bottle from the bicentenary released last night and it was delicious - elegant and mature, just the way I like my port.
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2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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AHB wrote: 13:41 Thu 04 May 2017
LGTrotter wrote: 01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
They seem to have done so. CMAG and I shared a bottle from the bicentenary released last night and it was delicious - elegant and mature, just the way I like my port.
I am was available and in London that evening :(
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DRT wrote: 13:49 Thu 04 May 2017
AHB wrote: 13:41 Thu 04 May 2017
LGTrotter wrote: 01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
They seem to have done so. CMAG and I shared a bottle from the bicentenary released last night and it was delicious - elegant and mature, just the way I like my port.
I am was available and in London that evening :(
If only we had known! We were even talking about how rarely you were in London overnight these days...
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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