Glenn E. wrote:I still feel that we should be as consistent as possible, but will bend to the will of the team. This is our one real chance to update and standardize... once it is in print we're pretty much stuck with it.
That is fair, and why this thread was re-awakened.
Glenn E. wrote:I prefer Kr (or, less so, Kn) to WK or Kh. I have many bottles of Krohn in which Wiese is only listed in the fine print. No one other than a Port geek would know that the firm's full name is Wiese & Krohn from those bottles.
Krohn is rarely seen in this sceptred isle. Precedent not so important. People please vote from:
Kh,
Kr,
Kn,
WK? Second preferences allowed. (And don’t dismiss
WK on grounds of geekiness — port tastings are for geeks.
C.f.,
BI = Borges & Irmão.)
Glenn E. wrote:Cr/CR doesn't look like a pair to me. It looks like Ports from two different producers - the first Croft, and the second being some unknown shipper with two words or possibly some new "C" shipper with an "R" quinta. But I will go with the group if Cr/CR is ultimately the decision.
Side-by-side, it’s a splendid pair.
Glenn E. wrote:I believe that I tend toward clarity over brevity, so am happy with TTF, TSQ, TVVV, OBV, and BBR as they are. To them I would add DSR …. (DSR done, I now note.) To me, Senhora is at least as oomphy as Boa. … VZ for me, too.
All these already agreed and done. No further discussion necessary.
Glenn E. wrote:and KSL. … And Sao means Saint, which seems pretty oomphy to me.
We disagree. If there’s a strongly-held consensus against me, I’ll fold, but it needs to be strong as KL plenty clear, and supported by brevity and precedent.
Glenn E. wrote:No, really, NNSC? I have a bottle of their 2009 LBV if you'd like a picture. (At least I think it's the 2009 LBV... but I have a bottle of something from them.)
This omission to be fixed, but ideally more concisely. Would
Nv be acceptable? (Is there risk of confusion with Quinta da Fonte Nova (
FN?) or with any of the Quinta do Noval possibilities — Noval Silval, Quinta do Noval Quinta do Marco, Quinta do Noval Silval (
NS?), Quinta do Noval Quinta do Silval?) But
NNSC11 is just too long for where it needs to go.
Glenn E. wrote:As previously noted, there are numerous other small things I would change that I have not bothered to bring up because they are not significant enough to warrant discussion. Kr over Kh was the most significant of those.
Now is the chance. Or hold thy peace.
Also changing one name.
GB = Gonzalez Byass rather than
González Byass, as the Port was never labelled with the accent even though the modern Sherry company does use it.