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Press releases: separate sub-forum?

Post by jdaw1 » 20:28 Thu 21 May 2015

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9957#p91865]Here[/url] AHB wrote:From time to time we receive press releases and news bulletins from producers and their representatives and these tend to get scattered throughout the forums. I thought it would be easier for future reference if these were given their own thread especially if, as I hope, we will start to receive more of these directly in the future.
In reply to which PhilW wrote:If so, perhaps this would be worthy of a separate sub-forum, rather than just a thread?
It would also provide more visibility per press item, which might be appreciated by the producers.
I second PhilW’s suggestion.

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Post by flash_uk » 21:02 Thu 21 May 2015

Yes a good idea I think. Perhaps with some loose guidance on thread naming convention, possibly Year then Shipper? For example "2013 Noval".

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Post by DRT » 01:31 Fri 22 May 2015

Good idea. Done.
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Post by PhilW » 06:38 Fri 22 May 2015

flash_uk wrote:Yes a good idea I think. Perhaps with some loose guidance on thread naming convention, possibly Year then Shipper? For example "2013 Noval".
Reverse date of original announcement would perhaps allow simple sorting, such as "2015-05-21 Noval".

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Post by jdaw1 » 08:39 Fri 22 May 2015

DRT wrote:Good idea. Done.
I don’t like the “Announcements” name of the sub-forum. Our announcements, or somebody else’s. “Press Releases” would better capture the sense?

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Post by DRT » 08:42 Fri 22 May 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Good idea. Done.
I don’t like the “Announcements” name of the sub-forum. Our announcements, or somebody else’s. “Press Releases” would better capture the sense.
Press releases feels very limiting to me. Perhaps "Port News"?
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Post by flash_uk » 09:38 Fri 22 May 2015

How about: Port news, declarations and releases

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Post by PhilW » 10:30 Fri 22 May 2015

or a combination: Press releases, announcements and news

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Post by PhilW » 10:32 Fri 22 May 2015

Having just seen the sub-line on the forum I think it's ok as is, though perhaps the simple title "Press" instead of "Announcements" would serve, with the sub-line as currently to provide the detail.

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Post by DRT » 12:01 Fri 22 May 2015

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Post by jdaw1 » 13:43 Fri 22 May 2015

Discussion first. We might be able to agree.

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Post by flash_uk » 14:21 Fri 22 May 2015

Why not mirror the sub-line: Press, declarations and announcements

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Post by jdaw1 » 14:26 Fri 22 May 2015

WFM.

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Post by DRT » 21:43 Fri 22 May 2015

So what is the secondary description to be.

Please, someone put forward a complete suggestion of the forum title and description.
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Post by DRT » 21:47 Fri 22 May 2015

...and please comment on whether or not we should trawl the site for past announcements and move them to this part of the forum.
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Post by jdaw1 » 22:28 Fri 22 May 2015

Press releases, announcements, and declarations
Announcements from the industry source, or from the official agent of the source

Trawl: yes. A team effort could perhaps be organised.

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Post by flash_uk » 23:51 Fri 22 May 2015

jdaw1 wrote:Press releases, announcements, and declarations
Announcements from the industry source, or from the official agent of the source

Trawl: yes. A team effort could perhaps be organised.
Make it so

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Post by DRT » 07:01 Sat 23 May 2015

flash_uk wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Press releases, announcements, and declarations
Announcements from the industry source, or from the official agent of the source
Make it so
Done.

What is allowed?

1. Wine journo in Decanter says "Joseph Forrester found in a cave in the upper Douro".

2. Axel posts "Quinta das Flip-flop has declared 2017

3. 2011 Declarations (as compiled by members here)

4. BFT 2016 registration open

Any of those?
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Post by jdaw1 » 08:56 Sat 23 May 2015

DRT wrote:1. Wine journo in Decanter says "Joseph Forrester found in a cave in the upper Douro".
Not industry source.
DRT wrote:2. Axel posts "Quinta das Flip-flop has declared 2017
If quoting an announcement that seems formal, yes.
DRT wrote:3. 2011 Declarations (as compiled by members here)
If quoting an announcement that seems formal, yes.
DRT wrote:4. BFT 2016 registration open
Unsure.

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Post by DRT » 09:03 Sat 23 May 2015

I foresee difficulties here.

Take the third example above. Such threads are amongst the most popular on the forum and are a conglomeration of formal declarations, member observation at tasting events, hearsay and speculation. Do we now need two threads in two different parts of the forum? (I say no)

I am starting to think we are giving ourselves a complexity that is unnecessary.
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Post by flash_uk » 09:39 Sat 23 May 2015

flash_uk wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Press releases, announcements, and declarations
Announcements from the industry source, or from the official agent of the source

Trawl: yes. A team effort could perhaps be organised.
Make it so
I've just realised that the sub-line suggested is different from the initial one offered. This one seems a bit too fussy and precise, giving rise to some of the confusion about what could be posted. The word news has disappeared for example. If the sub line could be something like "News and announcements from the port trade, press and shippers", then all of the examples cited above would be fine. And aren't those the kinds of thing we want to hear about?

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Post by DRT » 10:38 Sat 23 May 2015

How about...

The Grapevine
Press Releases, Announcements, News and Speculation about Port and the Port Trade.
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Post by jdaw1 » 12:53 Sat 23 May 2015

No.

Harrods is a fine store, but must we name our sub-fora after its circa 1990 wine catalogue?

And the long wording seems to capture everything, so says nothing. News! Journal of Whatever prefers Quinta do X 1955 to Quinta do Y 1975!

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Post by DRT » 13:08 Sat 23 May 2015

If we were to have a poll I would be voting to leave such posts in the main conversation forum.

The fact that no one seems to be able to put a simple, meaningful and generally accepted description together is a fair indication of the confusion that would ensue if we continue down this path.

If no one comes up with a sensible idea by this evening I will revert the forum to where we were. If a sensible suggestion follows we can create whatever that sensible thing is.
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Re: Press releases: separate sub-forum?

Post by PhilW » 14:39 Sat 23 May 2015

Original suggestion was a thread/area for Press releases and new bulletins; I think we have strayed in scope while trying to clarify, and in doing so have confused things. Attempt at clear suggestion:
  • Section name "Press releases and news bulletins"
  • sub-wording could be similar, e.g. "Press and announcements from the port industry" or some-such
  • Intended use only for copies of press announcements seen/copied from other websites or emails and any discussion thereof
While individual declarations could be put there if wanted, since we wish to keep a list of all declarers per year, it seems better to maintain that list as currently in conversation (or reference?) section. Regarding trawling and moving old posts on the same basis, I wouldn't worry about it; I would leave it to people's discretion and move if you feel the need from hereon as per any other thread felt to be in the wrong area.

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