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Post by KillerB » 19:29 Tue 15 Jan 2008

Derek T. wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
KillerB wrote:'Someone' could always create all the others and wait for certainty.
‘Someone’ has told me that the cross-linking is more easily done in one go.
'Someone' has told me that 'Someone' is best left alone to decide the best time for 'Someone' to do what 'Someone' does very well.
I was just wondering so that we had them on-line before I create the downloads.
Port is basically a red drink

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OK. Will do in a few hours.

Post by jdaw1 » 19:43 Tue 15 Jan 2008

OK. Will do in a few hours.

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‘Somebody’ has coped.

Post by jdaw1 » 04:13 Wed 16 Jan 2008

‘Somebody’ has coped.

jdaw1 wrote:
(Combining links from multiple places) jdaw1 wrote:The 1966 Horizontal, held at the Crusting Pipe, Covent Garden, London WC2E 8RD, on Monday 28 January 2008.

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Perhaps suppliers of bottles could post information about provenance in the appropriate TN threads?

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Post by AHB » 07:27 Wed 16 Jan 2008

I note that the title of the tasting note for the Nacional is "1966 Nacional". Should we follow that lead for future tasting notes of the Nacional wines (ie. omit any reference to Noval)?

Alex
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Post by DRT » 09:43 Wed 16 Jan 2008

AHB wrote:I note that the title of the tasting note for the Nacional is "1966 Nacional". Should we follow that lead for future tasting notes of the Nacional wines (ie. omit any reference to Noval)?

Alex
I vote no. I prefer the use of the full description Quinta do Noval Nacional, preferably with the funny little curly thing at the bottom of the c in Nacional 88)

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cedilla

Post by jdaw1 » 17:58 Wed 16 Jan 2008

“Naçional†?! Please help me believe by uploading a picture of a bottle with a label in which the c of Nacional has a cedilla.

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TN updated

Post by jdaw1 » 18:03 Wed 16 Jan 2008

Parts 1 and 2 updated.

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In order of number of TNs:

Post by jdaw1 » 18:25 Wed 16 Jan 2008

This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:

44 Quinta do Vesuvio
29 Fonseca
26 Graham’s
24 Warre
21 Taylor
20 Nacional
19 Dow
15 Cockburn
14 Croft
13 Noval
13 Sandeman
12 Niepoort
10 Noval colheita
10 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas
9 Graham’s Malvedos
9 Smith Woodhouse
8 Harvey’s (Martinez)
8 Morgan
7 Fonseca Guimaraens
7 Kopke
7 Ramos Pinto
6 Quinta do Crasto
6 Quinta de Roriz
6 Warre LBV
5 Berry Bros Selection
5 Burmester LBV
5 Croft Quinta da Roeda
5 Dow Quinta do Bomfim
5 Gould Campbell
5 Noval Silval
5 Offley Boa Vista
4 Churchill’s
4 Graham’s Crusted
4 Graham’s LBV
4 Kopke colheita
4 Niepoort colheita
4 Quarles Harris
4 Smith Woodhouse LBV
4 Quinta de Vale Meão
3 Burmester
3 Cálem
3 Dalva (Presidential)
3 Dow LBV
3 Ferreira
3 Krohn’s
3 Warre colheita
3 Warre Otima tawny
2 Andresen
2 Andresen colheita
2 Quinta do Crasto LBV
2 Croft LBV
2 Delaforce
2 Delaforce Quinta da Corte
2 Fonseca Quinta do Cruzeiro
2 Fonseca Quinta do Panascal
2 Messias
2 Niepoort Quinta do Passadouro
2 Offley
2 Osborne
2 Pintas
2 Poças
2 Quinta do Portal
2 Rebello Valente
2 Robertson’s Rebello Valente
2 Roriz LBV
2 Smith Woodhouse Madalena
2 Taylor LBV
2 Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita
2 Tesco’s Symington
2 Warre Quinta da Cavadinha
1 Adam
1 Andresen LBV
1 Avery
1 Quinta de Baldias
1 Quinta de Baldias LBV
1 Barros
1 Berry Brothers & Rudd
1 Berry’s Vintage Character
1 Borges
1 Quinta do Bragào colheita
1 Quinta da Brunheda colheita
1 Quinta das Carvalhas
1 Quinta da Cavadinha
1 Churchill crusted
1 Churchill’s Quinta da Agua Alta
1 Churchill’s LBV
1 Croft Platinum Reserve
1 Dalva Golden White colheita
1 Davy’s
1 Delaforce 20Y tawny
1 Delaforce colheita
1 Dow Crusted
1 Dow tawny
1 Duff Gordon
1 Feist colheita
1 Feist LBV
1 Ferreira LBV
1 Quinta do Fojo
1 Fonseca 20Y tawny
1 Fonseca Bin 27
1 Fonseca Terra Prima Reserve
1 Gonzalez Byass
1 Graham’s Reserve
1 Gran Cruz
1 Guedes LBV
1 Hutcheson
1 Quinta do Infantado
1 Kopke Quinta S. Luiz
1 Kopke tawny
1 Krohn colheita
1 Krohn’s Quinta do Retiro Novo
1 Marks & Spencer LBV
1 Mitcheltombs
1 Moreira colheita
1 Niepoort 20Y tawny
1 Niepoort Dry White Port
1 Niepoort Garrafeira
1 Niepoort Secundum
1 Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo LBV
1 Noval Crusted
1 Noval LBV
1 Noval LBV
1 Offley colheita
1 Porto Cruz 20Y tawny
1 Presidential Reserve Golden White Port
1 Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira
1 Ramos Pinto LBV
1 Robertson tawny
1 Quinta da Romaneira
1 Quinta da Romaneira LBV
1 Romariz
1 Royal Oporto
1 Rozès
1 Rozès LBV
1 Sandeman Vau
1 São Pedro das Aguias
1 Smith Woodhouse colheita
1 Taylor Fladgate 10Y tawny
1 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha
1 Quinta do Vale Dona Maria Reserve
1 Quinta de Ventozelo
1 Quinta da Vista Allegre

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Re: In order of number of TNs:

Post by DRT » 19:33 Wed 16 Jan 2008

jdaw1 wrote:This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:

44 Quinta do Vesuvio
29 Fonseca
26 Graham’s
24 Warre
21 Taylor
20 Nacional
19 Dow
15 Cockburn
14 Croft
13 Noval
13 Sandeman
12 Niepoort
We seem to have good taste 88)
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I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.

Post by jdaw1 » 19:58 Wed 16 Jan 2008

I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.

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Re: I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.

Post by DRT » 20:05 Wed 16 Jan 2008

jdaw1 wrote:I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
I'm not too surprised as a large proportion, posted by Axel, LadyR and I, come from Vesuvio vertical tastings at the Quinta. Many others come from Alex 'Vesuvio' Bridgeman - He has a username with a H in the middle instead of a V just to throw us off :wink:

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“Robertson’s Rebello Valente† and “Rebello Valente†

Post by jdaw1 » 05:06 Thu 17 Jan 2008

Just noticed that we had both “Robertson’s Rebello Valente† and “Rebello Valente†. Now merged into the longer name.

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Re: I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.

Post by AHB » 12:57 Thu 17 Jan 2008

jdaw1 wrote:I was mildly surprised by the dominance of Vesuvio.
88)
Top Ports in 2018 (so far): Niepoort VV (1960's Bottling), Quinta do Noval Nacional 1994 and San Leonardo Very Old White (Bottled 2018)
2017 Ports of the year: Fonseca 1927 and Quinta do Noval 1927

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TN index updated—apologies for tardiness.

Post by jdaw1 » 20:39 Wed 02 Jul 2008

TN index updated—apologies for tardiness. Now so long that it needs three posts (there is an upper limit to the size of a single post, that I think is 32k characters). Front-page link also updated. Comments welcomed.

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Post by DRT » 21:07 Wed 02 Jul 2008

I like the new features very much.

Thank you.
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“new features†: For the newly-arrived or unobservant…

Post by jdaw1 » 21:14 Wed 02 Jul 2008

DRT wrote:new features
For the newly-arrived or unobservant:
  • House names now link to the website for that brand, where one exists and is known to me.
  • Each VP brand has been assigned a unique abbreviation, and to encourage their consistent use, they are shown appended by the year (e.g., “BI63† = Borges & Irmão 1963).
  • Standardisation of representation of “LBV†, “colheita†, and the like.
But there’s a price. The auto-correcting software will doubtless introduce new errors: start at this post to find them and shame me (before I find them without the shaming).

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Post by AHB » 22:47 Fri 04 Jul 2008

We appear to have been extremely busy since the last update. This is becoming a very impressive tasting notes database.

Thank you for all the hard work.
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Re: In order of number of TNs:

Post by jdaw1 » 23:12 Fri 04 Jul 2008

This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:
  1. 55 Ã Graham vintage port
  2. 49 Ã Quinta do Vesuvio vintage port
  3. 35 Ã Fonseca vintage port
  4. 32 Ã Taylor vintage port
  5. 30 Ã Warre vintage port
  6. 26 Ã Dow vintage port
  7. 23 Ã Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port
  8. 20 Ã Croft vintage port
  9. 20 Ã Quinta do Noval vintage port
  10. 19 Ã Cockburn vintage port
  11. 19 Ã Taylor Quinta de Vargellas vintage port
  12. 18 Ã Martinez (Harvey) vintage port
  13. 17 Ã Niepoort vintage port
  14. 15 Ã Graham Malvedos vintage port
  15. 13 Ã Ferreira vintage port
  16. 13 Ã Sandeman vintage port
  17. 13 Ã Fonseca Guimaraens vintage port
  18. 12 Ã Warre LBV
  19. 12 Ã Morgan vintage port
  20. 11 Ã Quinta do Noval colheita
  21. 11 Ã Smith Woodhouse vintage port
  22. 10 Ã Offley Boa Vista vintage port
  23. 10 Ã Ramos-Pinto vintage port
  24. 9 Ã Delaforce vintage port
  25. 9 Ã Kopke vintage port
  26. 8 Ã Kopke colheita
  27. 8 Ã Gould Campbell vintage port
  28. 8 Ã Dow Quinta do Bomfim vintage port
  29. 7 Ã Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection vintage port
  30. 7 Ã Quinta de Roriz vintage port
  31. 7 Ã Noval Silval vintage port
  32. 6 Ã Burmester LBV
  33. 6 Ã Quinta do Crasto vintage port
  34. 6 Ã Croft Quinta da Roeda vintage port
  35. 5 Ã Robertson Rebello Valente vintage port
  36. 5 Ã Burmester vintage port
  37. 5 Ã Churchill vintage port
  38. 5 Ã Dow LBV
  39. 5 Ã Graham LBV
  40. 5 Ã Smith Woodhouse Madalena vintage port
  41. 5 Ã Quinta do Noval LBV
  42. 5 Ã Quarles Harris vintage port
  43. 4 à Cálem vintage port
  44. 4 Ã Dalva (Presidential) vintage port
  45. 4 Ã Dow crusted
  46. 4 Ã Graham crusted
  47. 4 Ã Niepoort colheita
  48. 4 à Poças vintage port
  49. 4 à Rozès LBV
  50. 4 Ã Smith Woodhouse LBV
  51. 4 Ã Taylor LBV
  52. 4 Ã Tesco BOB vintage port
  53. 4 Ã Warre Quinta da Cavadinha vintage port
  54. 4 à Quinta de Vale Meão vintage port
  55. 3 Ã Burmester colheita
  56. 3 Ã Andresen colheita
  57. 3 Ã Delaforce Quinta da Corte vintage port
  58. 3 Ã Niepoort Quinta do Passadouro vintage port
  59. 3 Ã Royal Oporto vintage port
  60. 3 Ã Warre colheita
  61. 3 Ã Warre Otima tawny
  62. 3 Ã Gonzalez Byass vintage port
  63. 3 Ã Hutcheson vintage port
  64. 3 Ã Pintas vintage port
  65. 3 Ã Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita vintage port
  66. 2 Ã Offley LBV
  67. 2 Ã Offley vintage port
  68. 2 à Borges & Irmão vintage port
  69. 2 à Cálem colheita
  70. 2 à Messias Quinta do Cachão vintage port
  71. 2 Ã Messias vintage port
  72. 2 Ã Churchill LBV
  73. 2 Ã Churchill Quinta da Agua Alta vintage port
  74. 2 Ã Cockburn LBV
  75. 2 Ã Croft LBV
  76. 2 Ã Dow tawny
  77. 2 Ã Fonseca LBV
  78. 2 Ã Andresen LBV
  79. 2 Ã Andresen vintage port
  80. 2 Ã Krohn vintage port
  81. 2 Ã Niepoort LBV
  82. 2 Ã Niepoort tawny
  83. 2 Ã Osborne vintage port
  84. 2 Ã Quinta da Romaneira vintage port
  85. 2 Ã Quinta de la Rosa colheita
  86. 2 Ã Quinta de Roriz LBV
  87. 2 Ã Quinta de Ventozelo vintage port
  88. 2 Ã Quinta do Crasto LBV
  89. 2 Ã Fonseca Quinta do Cruzeiro vintage port
  90. 2 Ã Quinta do Portal vintage port
  91. 2 Ã Ramos-Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira vintage port
  92. 2 Ã Taylor tawny
  93. 2 Ã Fonseca Quinta do Panascal vintage port
  94. 2 Ã Quinta do Infantado vintage port
  95. 1 Ã Robertson Rebello Valente tawny
  96. 1 Ã Ferreira garrafeira
  97. 1 Ã Ferreira LBV
  98. 1 Ã Offley colheita
  99. 1 Ã Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection vintage character
  100. 1 Ã Dalva (Presidential) Golden White colheita
  101. 1 Ã Dalva (Presidential) Golden White Reserve
  102. 1 Ã Churchill crusted
  103. 1 Ã Cockburn Reserve
  104. 1 Ã Cockburn ruby
  105. 1 Ã Croft Distinction Reserve
  106. 1 Ã Croft Platinum Reserve
  107. 1 Ã Croft pink
  108. 1 Ã Delaforce colheita
  109. 1 Ã Delaforce tawny
  110. 1 Ã Dow colheita
  111. 1 Ã Fonseca Bin 27 Reserve
  112. 1 Ã Fonseca Terra Prima Reserve
  113. 1 Ã Fonseca crusted
  114. 1 Ã Fonseca tawny
  115. 1 Ã Graham Reserve
  116. 1 Ã Kopke LBV
  117. 1 Ã Kopke tawny
  118. 1 Ã Krohn colheita
  119. 1 Ã Krohn tawny
  120. 1 Ã Marks & Spencer BOB LBV
  121. 1 Ã Marks & Spencer BOB pink
  122. 1 Ã Niepoort Secundum vintage port
  123. 1 Ã Niepoort dry white
  124. 1 Ã Niepoort garrafeira
  125. 1 Ã Barros colheita
  126. 1 Ã Barros vintage port
  127. 1 Ã Cruz tawny
  128. 1 Ã Cruz vintage port
  129. 1 Ã Quinta da Romaneira LBV
  130. 1 Ã Quinta de la Rosa LBV
  131. 1 Ã Quinta do Noval crusted
  132. 1 Ã Quinta do Noval Reserve
  133. 1 Ã Quinta do Noval tawny
  134. 1 Ã Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo LBV
  135. 1 Ã Ramos-Pinto Collector Reserve
  136. 1 Ã Ramos-Pinto LBV
  137. 1 Ã Ramos-Pinto white port
  138. 1 Ã Royal Oporto Quinta das Carvalhas vintage port
  139. 1 à Rozès tawny
  140. 1 à Rozès vintage port
  141. 1 Ã Sandeman Imperial Reserve
  142. 1 Ã Sandeman Vau vintage port
  143. 1 Ã Smith Woodhouse colheita
  144. 1 Ã Sogevinus Honorable tawny
  145. 1 Ã Unknown vintage port
  146. 1 Ã Quinta do Vale Dona Maria Reserve
  147. 1 Ã Quinta da Vista Allegre LBV
  148. 1 Ã Quinta da Vista Allegre vintage port
  149. 1 Ã Adam vintage port
  150. 1 Ã Avery vintage port
  151. 1 Ã Davy vintage port
  152. 1 Ã Duff Gordon vintage port
  153. 1 Ã Feist colheita
  154. 1 Ã Feist LBV
  155. 1 Ã Guedes LBV
  156. 1 à Kopke Quinta São Luiz vintage port
  157. 1 Ã Krohn Quinta do Retiro Novo vintage port
  158. 1 Ã Mitcheltombs vintage port
  159. 1 Ã Moreira colheita
  160. 1 Ã Quarles Harris LBV
  161. 1 Ã Quinta da Brunheda colheita
  162. 1 Ã Quinta de Baldias LBV
  163. 1 Ã Quinta de Baldias vintage port
  164. 1 à Quinta do Bragào colheita
  165. 1 à Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Aguias vintage port
  166. 1 Ã Quinta do Fojo vintage port
  167. 1 Ã Quinta do Infantado LBV
  168. 1 Ã Quinta do Javali LBV
  169. 1 Ã Rainha Santa vintage port
  170. 1 Ã Romariz vintage port
  171. 1 Ã Santos Junior vintage port
  172. 1 Ã Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha vintage port

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Re: In order of number of TNs:

Post by DRT » 23:29 Fri 04 Jul 2008

jdaw1 wrote:This is what we drink, in descending order of number of TNs:
  1. 55 Ã Graham vintage port
  2. 49 Ã Quinta do Vesuvio vintage port
  3. 35 Ã Fonseca vintage port
  4. 32 Ã Taylor vintage port
  5. 30 Ã Warre vintage port
  6. 26 Ã Dow vintage port
  7. 23 Ã Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port
  8. 20 Ã Croft vintage port
  9. 20 Ã Quinta do Noval vintage port
  10. 19 Ã Cockburn vintage port
We continue to have excellent taste 88)

Can I suggest that "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port" should appear as "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port"?
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Re: In order of number of TNs:

Post by jdaw1 » 23:50 Fri 04 Jul 2008

DRT wrote:Can I suggest that "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port" should appear as "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port"?
You may suggest it. The software can do “Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port†, which isn’t quite what you ask.

Or find a better link, which may be a deep-link.

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Re: In order of number of TNs:

Post by DRT » 00:15 Sat 05 Jul 2008

jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Can I suggest that "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port" should appear as "Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port"?
You may suggest it. The software can do “Quinta do Noval Nacional vintage port†, which isn’t quite what you ask.

Or find a better link, which may be a deep-link.
Their site uses Flashiness that prevents me from isolating a url to a Nacional-only page. Your compromise is better than nothing.
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the database has been updated so it’ll appear next time

Post by jdaw1 » 00:30 Sat 05 Jul 2008

Can’t be bothered with the complicated copy-pasting right now, but the database has been updated so it’ll appear next time I can.

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Admin: please send me the data

Post by jdaw1 » 09:28 Sun 13 Jul 2008

Admin: please send me the data and the recent tastings can be included.

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Post by DRT » 00:09 Thu 17 Jul 2008

A suggestion: Quinta do Noval Nacional should come immediately after Qunita do Noval in the TN Index. Mainly just because it should.
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Works for me.

Post by jdaw1 » 00:19 Thu 17 Jul 2008

Works for me.

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