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Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 23:46 Tue 10 Mar 2015
by Alex Bridgeman
What's he gone and done now?
The BBC appear to have a worse choice to make than the ECB. Sack Clarkson and watch Top Gear ratings fall through the floor and BBC Worldwide profits halve while at the same time watch a bidding war spark off between Sky, BT Sport, Virgin and ITV for the successor to Top Gear or back down and not sack the man who had his final warning last year.
As a Top Gear fan I am mighty pissed off that the last three episodes of this eight episode series have been pulled. Guess I'll just have to resort to Dave.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 00:42 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:a worse choice to make than the ECB.
The choices of the ECB are constrained by the Maastricht Treaty, which was a combination of the French desiring to constrain the Germans, and the Bundesbank desiring to constrain everybody. Not pretty. And an even less pretty outcome, especially for the Greeks. But at least we escaped, mostly thanks to a cricket-loving Prime Minister.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 01:04 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by LGTrotter
You don't see so much of Jim Davidson on telly these days either...
*falls to the floor laughing*
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 05:23 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by Glenn E.
I, too, am a Top Gear fan and this saddens me. Is there any further information about what happened?
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 09:36 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by djewesbury
Apparently the knuckle-dragging self-publicist threw a punch at a producer. That's a sacking offence even for such a delicate starlet as him.
I don't believe that TG is the only thing that makes money in the BBC Worldwide basket. And if it is, then it's probably time for the darkness to descend on us all.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 11:19 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by DRT
I think the ECB should sack Moores and give the job to Clarkson.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 14:15 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by jdaw1
The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31832698]Top Gear: 300,000 sign petition supporting Jeremy Clarkson[/url], wrote:An online petition calling for the BBC to "reinstate" Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson has been signed by more than 300,000 people.
Clarkson, 54, was suspended after a "fracas" with a BBC producer thought to work on the show.
Sunday's episode of Top Gear will not be shown, and it is understood the two final episodes in the series will also be dropped.
The petition was started on Tuesday by political blogger Guido Fawkes.
It reached the 250,000 mark by mid-morning on Wednesday.
Asked about the Clarkson incident, co-presenter James May told BBC News: "I think he's been involved in a bit of a dust-up and I don't think it's that serious." He said he had not been present.
Earlier on Wednesday, Clarkson's retweeted a message to his 4.5m Twitter followers from a Top Gear viewer which read: "How can BBC not show the remaining episodes of Top Gear, can't this be resolved without making the fans suffer?"
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 15:13 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by Alex Bridgeman
djewesbury wrote:Apparently the knuckle-dragging self-publicist
And that is why I watch Top Gear. It is so much more entertaining than when it was a car show being presented by Quentin
Blake Willson and Vicki B-H.
djewesbury wrote:threw a punch at a producer. That's a sacking offence even for such a delicate starlet as him.
Nonsense. There's always wriggle room. If the Beeb wants to keep him they will find a way to do so. If they don't want to keep him then there will be a lot of money thrown at him to change allegiance.
djewesbury wrote:I don't believe that TG is the only thing that makes money in the BBC Worldwide basket. And if it is, then it's probably time for the darkness to descend on us all.
Of course it isn't. Doctor Who and Sherlock Holmes also make money. Just not as much combined as does Top Gear.
LGTrotter wrote:You don't see so much of Jim Davidson on telly these days either...
Neither was he as entertaining as Clarkson; nor did he make as much money for his TV company.
DRT wrote:I think the ECB should sack Moores and give the job to Clarkson.
I think this is the best suggestion yet. Whether it be the England & Wales Cricket Board or the European Central Bank. In either case, appoint Clarkson to run it.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 15:14 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by djewesbury
A petition to reinstate him strikes me as being as irrelevant as a petition against fog.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 15:15 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by Alex Bridgeman
djewesbury wrote:A petition to reinstate him strikes me as being as irrelevant as a petition against fog.
You are quite correct. How can you reinstate someone when they have not been removed?
Being deliberately obtuse? Moi? I don't know what you mean.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 15:16 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by DRT
AHB wrote:DRT wrote:I think the ECB should sack Moores and give the job to Clarkson.
I think this is the best suggestion yet. Whether it be the England & Wales Cricket Board or the European Central Bank. In either case, appoint Clarkson to run it.
Should we start a petition on Twitter?
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 15:18 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by djewesbury
I don't think you're being obtuse Alex. Or at least, not obtuse enough!
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 15:22 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by flash_uk
It's all just a big PR campaign.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 20:02 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by jdaw1
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 20:21 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by djewesbury
David Cameron thinks he's a 'talent'. How are you spelling that, Dave?
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 21:39 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by AW77
djewesbury wrote:David Cameron thinks he's a 'talent'. How are you spelling that, Dave?
I think Clarkson has "A Talent to Annoy", though I fear that this joke is an insult to Nancy Mitford.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 21:57 Wed 11 Mar 2015
by djewesbury
Thank you André. Good to hear from you!
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 00:47 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by Glenn E.
BBC News wrote:What is a 'fracas'?
"Fracas" has French roots but it is originally from the Italian "fracassare", to cause uproar.
Its first noted use in English was in 1727, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. The writer Lady Mary Worley Montagu wrote in a letter: "A… violent fracas took place between the infantry-colonel and his lady."
If you speak British English, you pronounce it "frah-car", but Americans tend to pronounce it "fray-cuss".
Odd, I pronounce it with a short 'a' sound. More "frack-us".
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 02:03 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by djewesbury
Oh, the linguistic confusion around Jeremy Clarkson.
As Charlie Brooker says, he's funny because he's racist!
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 20:51 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by LGTrotter
i thought I would take advantage of the hiatus in this cultural thread to introduce a cultural concern of my own which I was originally going to address to Andre only. But on consideration I think I should throw it open to all comers.
How should I approach the poet Rilke?
I have an anthology, with translation by the rather pleasingly titled Michael Hamburger. However I find the poems rather soaring, almost with the nausea of motion and I distrust the translation.
Any advice?
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 21:40 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by jdaw1
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 21:57 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by LGTrotter
jdaw1 wrote:
Of course I agree that the muscular symbolism of Brecht is an easier starting point. Thank you Julian.
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 22:24 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by LGTrotter
But don't you think that Brecht's use of the modern and ordinary is a poor introduction to the individual and inward symbolism of Rilke?
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 23:14 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:But don't you think that Brecht's use of the modern and ordinary is a poor introduction to the individual and inward symbolism of Rilke?
Perhaps you could seek solace in a few YouTube videos of Pam Ayers?
Re: Jeremy Clarkson
Posted: 23:25 Fri 13 Mar 2015
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:LGTrotter wrote:But don't you think that Brecht's use of the modern and ordinary is a poor introduction to the individual and inward symbolism of Rilke?
Perhaps you could seek solace in a few YouTube videos of Pam Ayers?
I bloody love Pam Ayres. She's lovely.