The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 00:38 Tue 08 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 00:39 Tue 08 Jul 2014

DRT wrote:Future readers will not know what went where.

Golden rule broken.

Do you want me to write it in green?
No, golden rules are there for Julian to trifle with.

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by djewesbury » 00:41 Tue 08 Jul 2014

DRT wrote:Future readers will not know what went where.

Golden rule broken.

Do you want me to write it in green?
Go on then.
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by jdaw1 » 00:42 Tue 08 Jul 2014

Posts were made elsewhere, appropriate to those topics, but carefully worded. Then Daniel replied, in those threads, on the subject of this duel. So I moved the duel-subject posts to this thread.

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by djewesbury » 00:43 Tue 08 Jul 2014

jdaw1 wrote:Posts were made elsewhere, appropriate to those topics, but carefully worded. Then Daniel replied, in those threads, on the subject of this duel. So I moved the duel-subject posts to this thread.
And I for one am perfectly happy about that.
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by jdaw1 » 00:44 Tue 08 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
I agree that the usage went slightly beyond the strict classical meaning. But in the sense of a song to the god of wine, I hoped that it was close enough.

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by jdaw1 » 00:46 Tue 08 Jul 2014

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jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Golden rule broken. If you are going to Admin tell people what has moved from where to where.
Daniel's permission was sought before acting, and if wanted I can add links. (Though now on Tapatalk.)

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Post by DRT » 00:50 Tue 08 Jul 2014

I misread, apologies.

I thought posts had been moved from here to elsewhere without the destination being revealed.

Pink? Interesting.
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by djewesbury » 00:51 Tue 08 Jul 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
I agree that the usage went slightly beyond the strict classical meaning. But in the sense of a song to the god of wine, I hoped that it was close enough.
+++ FINAL ADJUDICATION FOLLOWS +++
These days a dithyramb is more or less synonymous with a paean, or even (though without the possible solemnity) a eulogy.
João Nicolau de Almeida presenting the wonderful story of Ramos Pinto would clearly fall into this category, particularly when he is faced with an appreciative audience such as ourselves.
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 00:51 Tue 08 Jul 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
I agree that the usage went slightly beyond the strict classical meaning. But in the sense of a song to the god of wine, I hoped that it was close enough.
I am a simple soul and I know I will pay dearly for this in the long run but the simple pleasure of picking you up on something slightly off key has been a joy. I think it says more for your fastidiousness than it does for my schadenfreude. I should also say that I know this because I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.

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Post by LGTrotter » 00:55 Tue 08 Jul 2014

So I think we cleared all that up. Night.

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by djewesbury » 01:03 Tue 08 Jul 2014

Words remaining:
djewesbury wrote: Trepanning
Reheboth
Filibuster
Reredos
Sphinges
Paschal
Bocage

The rule of the game is that anyone who can introduce one of these words in another thread - one of the serious ones - in such a way that it's clearly in context, and not remotely gratuitous, wins points, as determined by me. Once all the words are exhausted we see who's got most points.
These scores are just in on the ticker tape from James Alexander Gordon:
jdaw1: 6 points
LGTrotter: –10 points
Everyone else: 0 points
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by PopulusTremula » 06:43 Tue 08 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:Words remaining:
djewesbury wrote: Trepanning
Reheboth
Filibuster
Reredos
Sphinges
Paschal
Bocage

The rule of the game is that anyone who can introduce one of these words in another thread - one of the serious ones - in such a way that it's clearly in context, and not remotely gratuitous, wins points, as determined by me. Once all the words are exhausted we see who's got most points.
These scores are just in on the ticker tape from James Alexander Gordon:
jdaw1: 6 points
LGTrotter: –10 points
Everyone else: 0 points
Is trepanning not what Derek would rather have instead of drinking Real Vinicola '83?

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by DRT » 10:40 Tue 08 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
A very nice lady. Are you a subscriber?
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Post by djewesbury » 12:17 Tue 08 Jul 2014

DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
A very nice lady. Are you a subscriber?
A vine is a short endlessly looping video posted on the intermezzo (as I believe it's called). I would like to watch some wayward tendrils of the vine. Where can I find them?
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 02:31 Wed 09 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:jdaw1: 6 points
LGTrotter: –10 points
Everyone else: 0 points
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 02:34 Wed 09 Jul 2014

DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
A very nice lady. Are you a subscriber?
Used to, lovely thing though. I found it (understandably) very centred on America. I would certainly recommend it to anybody keen on wine writing.

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The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by djewesbury » 15:31 Thu 10 Jul 2014

PopulusTremula wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:I thought this was the other place ;) lol. (Just joking if course)


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I think he should have said 'I spy strangers' as he sits on the green benches. (As always with my tongue in my cheek.)
Translate to "this side of pond English" please lol


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Saying 'I spy strangers' in the House of Commons (British parliament) is a ruse to disrupt proceedings. It dates back to times when spys or even actual attack was a possibility. It was used on occasion to devastating effect by Dennis Skinner among others to most theatrical effect. Sergeants at arms running around and Black Rod in a lather.
I hang my head in shame to say that by implying you sit on the green benches of the commons I was using a bit of one-upmanship to say that this was the 'Upper House' as the Lords is referred to. God it sounds complicated. And not in the least amusing.
By forcing a vote as to whether the strangers should be removed from the Commons, uttering this phrase then has a similar effect to filibustering, no?
By making a gerund from the given word, JWEW PopulusTremula scores an additional 5 points!
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by PopulusTremula » 16:08 Thu 10 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:By making a gerund from the given word, JWEW scores an additional 5 points!
If JWEW is me, through some Times cryptic crossword type of logic, then yay.

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Post by djewesbury » 16:27 Thu 10 Jul 2014

PopulusTremula wrote:
djewesbury wrote:By making a gerund from the given word, JWEW scores an additional 5 points!
If JWEW is me, through some Times cryptic crossword type of logic, then yay.
Whoops. Corrected. 5 more points for spotting the deliferate mistale.
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 18:53 Thu 10 Jul 2014

Daniel being unfair and inaccurate with his points allocation? Never noticed, myself. :roll:

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Post by djewesbury » 21:05 Thu 10 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:Daniel being unfair and inaccurate with his points allocation? Never noticed, myself. :roll:
Fined half your match fee for dissent.
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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by jdaw1 » 21:34 Thu 10 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:Fined half your match fee for dissent.
Match fee? My agent has sorely let me down. I want a match fee.

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Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel

Post by LGTrotter » 21:55 Thu 10 Jul 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Fined half your match fee for dissent.
Match fee? My agent has sorely let me down. I want a match fee.
Exactly, where is it? Lost, along with the Ray Whelan of :tpf: , D. Jewesbury esq.

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