Something AHB Tasted

Conky · Post by **Conky** » 00:15 Fri 19 Oct 2007

Admin Note: Here, Derek T. asked people to try to guess what this wine was from his initial TN. This thread was moved here once the answer was revealed.

70's or early 80's? Gould Cambpell or Smith Woodhouse?

I'm sure I'm miles off, but worth a punt!

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 10:19 Fri 19 Oct 2007

Early guess: Graham 1970.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 13:03 Fri 19 Oct 2007

Duck soup with sage and paprika?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 13:47 Fri 19 Oct 2007

Reminds me of the F55 at the last Xmas offline..

Tom

Post by **DRT** » 18:47 Fri 19 Oct 2007

All miles away

I will leave AHB to add his TN to this thread and then we will reveal the name of the wine.

Derek

Conky · Post by **Conky** » 22:16 Fri 19 Oct 2007

Wat can I say? When we blind tasted 89 Cruz, I suggested a 'Lesser Port from the 80's' That was when the Glitterati was suggesting allsorts! And well, you know my guess on this one...

Looking forward to the answer?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 07:57 Sat 20 Oct 2007

Err, Derek. Conky was pretty close. Anyway, here's my note:

Mid-red colour, slightly darker than the Dow 1983 tasted at the same time; colour showing a little development in the bottle. Nose dominated at first by mint and alcohol, some tones of reductibe aging - some toffee and strawberry ice cream. Lovely thick texture in the mouth; subdued impact, quite dry with cherry stones and ripe vistoria plums. The tannins are still present although masked behind layers of fruit. The aftertaste is enormous, it starts immediately and grows massively with lots of coffee, cherry balck chocolate and complexity. This is a huge wine that is not yet ready for drinking and needs at least another 5 years in the bottle. Very good today but will be much, much better in 10 years. 7/8 or 92/100.

Simon Lisle · Post by **Simon Lisle** » 09:28 Sat 20 Oct 2007

I'll guess 77 Smith Woodhouse.

Post by **DRT** » 11:05 Sat 20 Oct 2007

Anyone want to revise their guess following AHB's note?

Frederick Blais · Post by **Frederick Blais** » 14:17 Sat 20 Oct 2007

Graham's 83

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:26 Sat 20 Oct 2007

Fonseca 1960? Or Dow 1960?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 18:49 Sat 20 Oct 2007

Simon's guess fits the description pretty well, as does F85..

..but has Derek broken into his stash of Nacionals?? - an NN64 or 67 might fit the bill..

Tom

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 17:57 Sun 21 Oct 2007

I guessed a '91 Vargellas, but was wrong. After that guess, Derek did give me some help in that it was from the '80s and was not a major name nor a major declaration year.

As an aside, while the Nacional '67 is still young enough to appear similar to this description, the two '64s that I have drunk have both been beautifully mature and showing lots of tertiary flavours. From my observations of old Nacional in "lesser" years (1947, 1960, 1964, 1967), these lose colour quite substantially but hold together in flavour extremely well.

Alex

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:21 Sun 21 Oct 2007

1982 or 1987?

Post by **DRT** » 00:12 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Clues:

It is a British house, but not one of the top flight
It is from the second half of the 80's
It is not from a generally declared year
There is a TN of it on this Forum

When we get 2 votes saying "I'm bored now, just tell me" I'll tell you

Post by **jdaw1** » 02:10 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Roeda 1987?
Malvedos 1987?
Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988?
Warre Quinta da Cavadinha 1989?

I’m bored now, just tell me. (Is it a valid vote if one uses a curly single quotation mark, rather than non-curly?)

Post by **DRT** » 02:25 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Please tell me how to create curly quotation marks on an MS Windows PC.

Your vote has been counted. It was not a spoiled ballot paper.

Derek

Frederick Blais · Post by **Frederick Blais** » 04:20 Mon 22 Oct 2007

I'm bored too

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 04:27 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Frederick Blais wrote:I'm bored too

me too...Derek, do tell

Post by **DRT** » 07:47 Mon 22 Oct 2007

It was Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988

Very nice indeed

Derek

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 14:30 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Very cool and not a Port one sees very often.

KillerB · Post by **KillerB** » 14:55 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Nice on Conky - hell of a good punt.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 15:28 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Conky is the clear winner on this one, bravo!
I was miles off.

Post by **DRT** » 15:41 Mon 22 Oct 2007

Conky,

Do you have something to tell the class?

Derek

Conky · Post by **Conky** » 15:53 Mon 22 Oct 2007

I do!

I'm the winner!!!

It must be that well known Brain food...Black Pudding!

I presume what Derek is refering to, is that when I spoke to Derek on the day he went to meet Alex, he told me what he was taking. So I knew my guess had been pretty close. Thats why, when Derek went onto say we were all miles out, I started ribbing him that some of us are good at this sort of thing, and I knew I was coming in close to the mark again! Hence the wink. Needless to say, he wasn't having it.

Is that what you meant?

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