It's just not cricket

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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by LGTrotter » 11:26 Mon 24 Aug 2015

Lyth and Anderson. I sometimes think that Bell will die of old age before someone remembers to sack him, so not him although he should go.

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Post by djewesbury » 11:29 Mon 24 Aug 2015

Sorry - my autocorrect suggested that they would 'test' Bell rather than 'rest' him. Corrected now (manually). I think he may not be going. But they'll recall him for South Africa and he may be useful there against the world's most terrifying quicks, who knows?
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT » 17:28 Mon 24 Aug 2015

LGTrotter wrote:Lyth and Anderson. I sometimes think that Bell will die of old age before someone remembers to sack him, so not him although he should go.
Owen, are you saying that Jimbo won't be going because he will be dropped or because he needs more time to recover after breaking his toenail in the third test?

Just to clarify (mostly for Daniel) - I was really asking "who is going to be sacked for being rubbish?" - so players who don't go just because they are Prima Donna types who want a rest because they think they are above playing in the UAE don't count.
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury » 17:30 Mon 24 Aug 2015

If they rest Bell it isn't because he's too good.
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by LGTrotter » 12:43 Sun 30 Aug 2015

Glad tidings! Ian Bell has decided to stop playing in T20s and one-dayers to focus on being pointless and flaky in tests. I wonder if someone should point out to Ian that if you've already been dropped from the T20 and one day side then you haven't decided to stop playing, you've been sacked.

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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury » 00:30 Fri 04 Sep 2015

Nobody but nobody is watching these pointless pyjama games. Should someone tell them?
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Post by DRT » 05:49 Fri 04 Sep 2015

djewesbury wrote:Nobody but nobody is watching these pointless pyjama games. Should someone tell them?
I watched the last hour, having listened to the previous hour on TMS in the car. A quite astounding collapse, again.

I am going to Headingley next Friday with a dozen colleagues.
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT » 17:45 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Some very unsporting behaviour being demonstrated by the crowd, the England team and some of the beefier commentators. Stokes intentionally handled the ball and was given out fallowing a perfectly valid review. Get over it and carry on with throwing away wickets. End of!
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Post by djewesbury » 17:52 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Derek, the law is wilful obstruction. This was self preservation. Never mind slow motion. You need to put yourself into the mind of a player on the field; which may be more difficult if you've never played the game :wink:
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Post by djewesbury » 18:03 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Maybe this will help. And yes, I know the umpire's decision is final.
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Post by DRT » 18:18 Sat 05 Sep 2015

djewesbury wrote:Derek, the law is wilful obstruction. This was self preservation. Never mind slow motion. You need to put yourself into the mind of a player on the field; which may be more difficult if you've never played the game :wink:
Yes indeed - "never mind the slow motion" that shows Stokes eyes following the ball and stretching his arm out to fend off a ball that was going to miss his body by two or three feet but just happened to be heading directly for his unprotected wicket. That's the one, Daniel.

The Upmire's decision is not only final, it happens to be correct.

It is interesting to note that Stokes walked without fuss or complaint whilst his captain had a whinge at the Umpire. Well done, Ben.
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Post by DRT » 18:20 Sat 05 Sep 2015

...and if we are going to ignore slow motion for this why have it for anything else?

This is a game of fast balls and lightning reactions. Slow motion helps mere mortals see what actually happened.

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Post by djewesbury » 18:21 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Rubbish. Sorry, this is a gentlemanly forum and all that, but I'm afraid that simply doesn't stand up to the first question you must ask yourself: would a professional cricketer wilfully do that, knowing they would obviously and immediately be out? This is not like trying to get a sneaky handball past the ref. No: not a single professional observer or former player of the game I've heard agrees with you. This was not intentional obstruction.
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Post by djewesbury » 18:22 Sat 05 Sep 2015

His captain was not the one shouting and waving his finger.
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Post by djewesbury » 18:24 Sat 05 Sep 2015

You're at full stretch, almost flat on the ground, diving for the crease; of course you look at the ball, that's what you're meant to be doing! Sorry Derek, you're just wrong in this instance.
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Post by DRT » 18:25 Sat 05 Sep 2015

What nonsense.

Are you seriously suggesting that no professional cricketer has ever intentionally broken a law of the game? Really?

No doubt you are "watching" this on the radio?
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT » 18:26 Sat 05 Sep 2015

djewesbury wrote:You're at full stretch, almost flat on the ground, diving for the crease; of course you look at the ball, that's what you're meant to be doing! Sorry Derek, you're just wrong in this instance.
He was never at full stretch and his bat never reached the crease, mainly because he didn't thrust it towards the line because he was too busy trying to catch the ball.
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Post by djewesbury » 18:26 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Derek, you have to admit that you just don't know about this. You have an opinion. But not an informed one.

Internet and radio. Thank you for asking.
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Post by djewesbury » 18:27 Sat 05 Sep 2015

What player is going to wilfully try and deflect the ball..? Why can't you just enjoy that 19-ball 50 before the last wicket?
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury » 18:29 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Really Derek, this is most unbecoming. I'll have to ask you to leave the pavilion now please, you're waking the members.
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT » 18:32 Sat 05 Sep 2015

I know what I have watched (dozens of times) and I know the interpretation of the law read out and explained by two or three of the more balanced, thoughtful and non-reactionary commentators. Those who are spouting the same nonsense that you are coming out with are being quietly ignored by their colleagues, probably to allow the entertainment to continue.

Your claim that no professional cricketer would do this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
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Post by djewesbury » 18:34 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Your claim that that is the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I've seen you hear much more ridiculous things in the past.
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Post by DRT » 18:36 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Justice is served.
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Post by djewesbury » 18:36 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Lovely innings from Morgan.
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Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury » 18:38 Sat 05 Sep 2015

Wouldn't be surprised if Smith gets fined for that ungentlemanly behaviour.
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