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Just as the Apostrophe Crimes thread pardons those whose first language is not English, this thread pardons those who choose to intentionally hang their Union Flags* upside-down.djewesbury wrote:Please, come to Belfast, where we can do a tour of upside-down Union Flegs.
The term has been sanctioned by Parliament, and the Admiralty. See the discussion starting with the fourth post in this thread.DRT wrote:* I have only just noticed the error in the thread title.
My reading of that debate is that you lost the argument, even though the others in the debate neglected to drive their arguments to a conclusion.jdaw1 wrote:The term has been sanctioned by Parliament, and the Admiralty. See the discussion starting with the fourth post in this thread.DRT wrote:* I have only just noticed the error in the thread title.
And once again, I say, come to Belfast, where we can discuss this in full and with people who really care!DRT wrote:My reading of that debate is that you lost the argument, even though the others in the debate neglected to drive their arguments to a conclusion.jdaw1 wrote:The term has been sanctioned by Parliament, and the Admiralty. See the discussion starting with the fourth post in this thread.DRT wrote:* I have only just noticed the error in the thread title.
In order to really appreciate the experience, do we have to have a power shower for half an hour?djewesbury wrote:And once again, I say, come to Belfast, where we can discuss this in full and with people who really care!
It's not just advisable, it's compulsory!DRT wrote:In order to really appreciate the experience, do we have to have a power shower for half an hour?djewesbury wrote:And once again, I say, come to Belfast, where we can discuss this in full and with people who really care!
With a mirror?DRT wrote:In order to really appreciate the experience, do we have to have a power shower for half an hour?djewesbury wrote:And once again, I say, come to Belfast, where we can discuss this in full and with people who really care!
Would likely result in a substantial increase in port consumption immediately thereafter.AHB wrote:With a mirror?DRT wrote:In order to really appreciate the experience, do we have to have a power shower for half an hour?djewesbury wrote:And once again, I say, come to Belfast, where we can discuss this in full and with people who really care!
I think it is fair to say that it is impossible to tell. I find that old chaps like these tend to be the last to be fooled. Also these look like rather official ensigns, not stitched by Eileen in accounts the night before.jdaw1 wrote:In the BBC’s In pictures: Liverpool commemorates Battle of the Atlantic, go forward to the sixth slide, which has the caption ‟Standard bearers for the procession to the Merchant Navy memorial gathered outside the Cunard Building in Liverpool.”
Please could somebody else comment on the left-most flag. Does it match the proper arrangement of the Red Ensign?
On my phone it appears not. The gold fringe visible down the center appears to be the staff side of the flag. If so, then the orientation visible just to its left appears to be reversed as that should be the "back" side of the flag, but appears to be the front side orientation.jdaw1 wrote:In the BBC’s In pictures: Liverpool commemorates Battle of the Atlantic, go forward to the sixth slide, which has the caption ‟Standard bearers for the procession to the Merchant Navy memorial gathered outside the Cunard Building in Liverpool.”
Please could somebody else comment on the left-most flag. Does it match the proper arrangement of the Red Ensign?
Last night was a VERY good nightdjewesbury wrote:I think it is fair to say that it is impossible to tell. I find that old chaps like these tend to be the last to be fooled. Also these look like rather official ensigns, not stitched by Eileen in accounts the night before.jdaw1 wrote:In the BBC’s In pictures: Liverpool commemorates Battle of the Atlantic, go forward to the sixth slide, which has the caption ‟Standard bearers for the procession to the Merchant Navy memorial gathered outside the Cunard Building in Liverpool.”
Please could somebody else comment on the left-most flag. Does it match the proper arrangement of the Red Ensign?
I think we should ask Phil what he thinks.
EDIT: I think we should ask Phil to ask the D66 what it thinks.
How many glasses of water did you drink?PhilW wrote: Last night was a VERY good night
I'd have said finial but the Interweb seems to think it is called 'the top'. Standards are falling (geddit??)PhilW wrote: [small metal figure on top of the pole; what are these called?]
I presume it would be very difficult to get a red ensign wrong. This is based on a presumption regarding the type of people likely to be making them, or needing to, and also the availability of 'already-assembled' ensigns, obviating the need to construct one's own.jdaw1 wrote:People seem to understand why it might appear dodgy, but as Daniel says, ‟old chaps like these tend to be the last to be fooled”. And Phil’s reasoning convinces. So it must be an illusion of the folds.
Which is why my observation was so tentative. It looked wrong, but just couldn’t be.djewesbury wrote:I presume it would be very difficult to get a red ensign wrong. This is based on a presumption regarding the type of people likely to be making them, or needing to, and also the availability of 'already-assembled' ensigns, obviating the need to construct one's own.
Now that I'm on a computer and not my phone, I concur.PhilW wrote:I think the flag is correct; The most visible vertical length of gold braid on the left hand flag in the image appears to be connected to the [small metal figure on top of the pole; what are these called?] and then go along the length of the union jack part of the flag, which would make this the braid along the top edge of the flag when flown with flagpole vertical. With the flag pole at left and this braid across the top, the top right corner of the union jack can be seen to have the thinner white band above the thicker in this corner, making this the correct orientation. Yes, this matches the supplied link to Red Ensign.
[url=http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/union-jack/upside-down_union_jacks.html]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Monday 22nd July 2013, from the BBC story entitled ‟Royal baby: Pregnant Kate taken to hospital in labour”.
Journalists were not the only ones waiting outside the Lindo Wing. Royal supporter Terry Hutt has been camped outside for nearly two weeks
Clearly the flag is intended to be viewed from the bench, as the one (partially) draped over the back of the bench is also displayed correctly as viewed from the bench.jdaw1 wrote:[url=http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/union-jack/upside-down_union_jacks.html]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Monday 22nd July 2013, from the BBC story entitled ‟Royal baby: Pregnant Kate taken to hospital in labour”.
Journalists were not the only ones waiting outside the Lindo Wing. Royal supporter Terry Hutt has been camped outside for nearly two weeks
But that presupposes that the corner nearest the gentleman's elbow is the top of the lanyard. If it is the bottom, the flag is upside down in more than one sense.AHB wrote:I think you can quite clearly see the sleeve for the lanyard on the right hand side of the nearest flag, this taking precedence over the general assumption of the flagpole on the left. I would therefore argue that this flag is correctly displayed.
