AHB wrote:!we simply decided that the tasting was already so large and expensive!we would prefer to call upon Jay's generosity at another time - perhaps in a Taylor & Vargellas complete 20th Century Vertical.
Excluding unofficial bottlings, I make that 60 bottles!
Why would we want to exclude unofficial bottlings? Do you have something against the Taylor 1948 or Taylor 1950 Special Quinta bottlings or the Vargellas 1970 bottling?
Alex
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Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
AHB wrote:!we simply decided that the tasting was already so large and expensive!we would prefer to call upon Jay's generosity at another time - perhaps in a Taylor & Vargellas complete 20th Century Vertical.
Excluding unofficial bottlings, I make that 60 bottles!
Why would we want to exclude unofficial bottlings? Do you have something against the Taylor 1948 or Taylor 1950 Special Quinta bottlings or the Vargellas 1970 bottling?
Alex
But how would we know when we had sourced every unofficial bottle--a necessity to make it ‟complete”? And why stop at 1900? Shouldn’t a vertical of this nature start with the Waterloo vintage?
JacobH wrote:And we really ought to compare British v. Oporto bottlings.
This is really a separate tasting. There are many UK bottlers, varying from excellent to not so. They can’t be lumped together. I’d much rather work on a couple of vintages, say ’63 and ’70, and two or three wines from each (not necessarily the same), with multiple bottlers.
JacobH wrote:A legitimate add-on to this tasting would be magnums v. 75cl v. 37.5cl as many Taylor vintages were bottled in both of those.
The non-serious part was that it should be a one-day tasting. AHB needless to say was entirely serious about the idea of a complete Taylor vertical. But not in one session.
jdaw1 wrote:The non-serious part was that it should be a one-day tasting. AHB needless to say was entirely serious about the idea of a complete Taylor vertical. But not in one session.
A complete 20th C. Taylor vertical would be a mere 27 bottles; it’s adding the Vargellas that causes it to be a lunch+dinner prospect...
JacobH wrote:A complete 20th C. Taylor vertical would be a mere 27 bottles; it’s adding the Vargellas that causes it to be a lunch+dinner prospect...
By British standards I might be a light-weight, but I’d rather split twenty-seven bottles into two sessions. For my modest capacity the Vargellas suggested a multi-day tasting.
jdaw1 wrote:The non-serious part was that it should be a one-day tasting. AHB needless to say was entirely serious about the idea of a complete Taylor vertical. But not in one session.
A complete 20th C. Taylor vertical would be a mere 27 bottles; it’s adding the Vargellas that causes it to be a lunch+dinner prospect...
I'm still slightly confused as to why it could not be an 1815-2006(7?) vertical. If we included a Friday afternoon and evening as well as Morning, afternoon and evening on Saturday and Sunday that would give us 8 sessions of 18 bottles = 144. That would allow us to amend the title to a snappier "A Gross of Taylor Vintages"
"The first duty of Port is to be red" Ernest H. Cockburn
DRT wrote:I'm still slightly confused as to why it could not be an 1815-2006(7?) vertical. If we included a Friday afternoon and evening as well as Morning, afternoon and evening on Saturday and Sunday that would give us 8 sessions of 18 bottles = 144. That would allow us to amend the title to a snappier "A Gross of Taylor Vintages"
I was simply following the rule of AHB who pronounced it thus. If I were to have a say, I add would released and unreleased Terra Feita vintages, which I think are somewhat undervalued.
Excluding unofficial bottlings, I make that 60 bottles!
standard vertical of 35 per day.
