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The [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20354669]BBC[/url] wrote:Meat-eaters "easily cheat, lie, forget promises and commit sex crimes"
But is this true relative to vegetarians?
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jdaw1 wrote:
The [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20354669]BBC[/url] wrote:Meat-eaters "easily cheat, lie, forget promises and commit sex crimes"
But is this true relative to vegetarians?
Here is the equally convincing counter argument.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20583113]'Binge-drinking gene' discovered[/url], wrote:Scientists believe some people have a gene that hard-wires them for binge drinking by boosting levels of a happy brain chemical triggered by alcohol.
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The FT, in an article entitled [url=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bfd470ee-406a-11e2-8f90-00144feabdc0.html]Smoothing won’t solve our pension problems[/url], wrote:Sir Winston Churchill’s doctor told him that a man of his height should not weigh as much as 15 stone, and his wife tried to put him on a tomato diet, which he resisted. He solved the problem by testing different weighing machines until he found one that registered half a stone less. We will not solve the pension problems of corporate UK by looking for a new weighing machine.
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The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20498044]Alcohol dependency: When social drinking becomes a problem[/url], wrote:Alcohol-related health issues among baby boomers are on the rise. Daily drinking can start off as a social event but turn into dependency, addiction experts say. So when does social drinking become alcoholism?

In the festive season, with office parties, Christmas, and new year, there is opportunity aplenty for yet another tipple.

Since the 1950s, alcohol consumption in the UK has gradually increased. The NHS now spends more on alcohol-related illness among baby boomers than any other age group, with £825m spent on 55 to 74-year-olds in 2010-11 compared to £64m on under-24s.

Estimates also suggest about nine per cent of men and three per cent of women in the UK show signs of alcohol dependence.

But it is the functioning alcoholic that can slip under the radar - before their health issues are severe enough to need treatment.

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Dr John Marsden, an alcohol and drug dependency expert from King's College London, says a typical functioning alcoholic can manage to hold down a job despite having a "very severe drinking problem that they have been incubating over a very long period".

"Alcohol problems are difficult to understand because they do not occur overnight. They are hidden from view which makes functioning alcoholics a group we cannot easily help."

Rob C, who is 61, was one of them. At his worst he was drinking 1.5 litres of straight vodka per day.
That is the equivalent of a double-magnum of port.
The BBC further wrote:The charity hopes that their campaign, Dry January, will help get people thinking about how much they drink, especially at home when units are harder to measure, and crucially, before they reach a stage where drinking is affecting their health.
So let’s look.
Alcohol Concern wrote:Can you stay off the booze for 31 days?
Feel better. Save money. Make a difference. Your chance to ditch the hangover, reduce the waistline, and save the pennies.
I’ve got a different plan: let’s confuse the questions ‟Can you !?” and ‟Would you want to !?”.
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The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20805966]Brussels sprouts 'overdose' hospitalised man at Christmas, report reveals[/url], wrote:A man from Ayrshire had to be hospitalised after eating too many Brussels sprouts last Christmas, it has emerged.

The traditional Christmas vegetable contain lots of vitamin K which promotes blood clotting.
You can’t be too careful don’t risk it. Children, just say ‟no”.
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jdaw1 wrote:
The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20805966]Brussels sprouts 'overdose' hospitalised man at Christmas, report reveals[/url], wrote:A man from Ayrshire had to be hospitalised after eating too many Brussels sprouts last Christmas, it has emerged.

The traditional Christmas vegetable contain lots of vitamin K which promotes blood clotting.
You can’t be too careful don’t risk it. Children, just say ‟no”.
Alcohol thins the blood. Therefore, one should drink a glass of Port for every Brussels sprout consumed. Or better yet, drink the Port and feed the Brussels sprout to the family dog.
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jdaw1 wrote:
The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20805966]Brussels sprouts 'overdose' hospitalised man at Christmas, report reveals[/url], wrote:A man from Ayrshire had to be hospitalised after eating too many Brussels sprouts last Christmas, it has emerged.

The traditional Christmas vegetable contain lots of vitamin K which promotes blood clotting.
You can’t be too careful don’t risk it. Children, just say ‟no”.
These vile things are known as The Devil's Testicles for good reason. Stay safe.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20836084]Doctors 'save man's life by using alcohol'[/url], wrote:UK doctors have saved a man's life using an unconventional treatment - a shot of neat alcohol into the arteries supplying his heart.
The article does not say that one shouldn’t try this at home.
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The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20880957]Alcohol Concern and British Liver Trust launch January campaigns[/url], wrote:Two national charities have launched different campaigns urging people to cut down on their alcohol consumption.

Alcohol Concern is urging drinkers to shun alcohol for January, with benefits which it says include saving money, losing weight and feeling healthier.

But the British Liver Trust said people should follow its recommendations throughout the year, including taking 2-3 days off alcohol every week.

Liver disease is now the fifth biggest cause of death in the UK.

The British Liver Trust said it was on the rise because British culture continues to embrace daily consumption of alcohol, fatty food choices and a lack of exercise.

'Three-step plan'

It has launched its second Love Your Liver awareness campaign, to be led by a nationwide roadshow of "pop-up" liver health clinics.

The trust's chief executive, Andrew Langford, said: "It's not about a quick fix in January, to repair the liver and keep it healthy, people need to follow our three-step plan all-year round: 1) Take two to three days off alcohol every week; 2) get regular exercise; 3) cut down on sugar and fat."
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The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20874204]Alcohol calories 'too often ignored'[/url], wrote:People watching their weight should pay closer attention to how much alcohol they drink since it is second only to fat in terms of calorie content, say experts.

According to the World Cancer Research Fund, alcohol makes up nearly 10% of total calorie intake among drinkers.

Having a large glass of wine will cost you the same 178 calories as eating two chocolate digestive biscuits.

And it will take you more than a half hour's brisk walk to burn off.
Empty calories

Eating or drinking too many calories on a regular basis can lead to weight gain.

But unlike food, alcoholic drinks have very little or no nutritional value.

The 'empty calories' in drinks are often forgotten or ignored by dieters, says the WCRF.

Kate Mendoza, head of health information at WCRF, said: "Recent reports have shown that people are unaware of calories in drinks and don't include them when calculating their daily consumption."

Containing 7kcal/g, alcohol is only slightly less calorific than fat, which contains 9kcal/g.

Protein and carbohydrates contain 4kcal/g and fibre 2kcal/g.

Men need around 2,500 calories a day, and women around 2,000.
2500kcal / 7kcal/g ≈ 357g. At 20°C the density of pure ethanol is 789 g/l, so 357/789 ≈ 0.452 l of pure ethanol contains 2500 kcal.
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No alcohol mentioned, but dying from oysters and steak tartare at the age of seventy seven isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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From the front page of the BBC website:
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Cheap alcohol? Doubtless many Britons would be happy to deal with that.
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Probably too much to hope that legislation will be past to make 1970 VP cheap. Don't you just hate politicians!
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The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22001256]Samoa Air boss defends charging passengers by weight[/url], wrote:The head of Samoa Air has defended the airline's decision to start charging passengers according to their weight.

Chris Langton told Australia's ABC Radio that it was "the fairest way of travelling".

Rather than pay for a seat, passengers pay a fixed price per kilogram, which varies depending on the route length.

Samoa Air flies domestically and to American Samoa. It is thought the move could encourage other airlines to introduce similar policies.

"Airlines don't run on seats, they run on weight, and particularly the smaller the aircraft you are in the less variance you can accept in terms of the difference in weight between passengers," Mr Langton told ABC radio.

"Anyone who travels at times has felt they have been paying for half of the passenger next to them."

Under the new model, Mr Langton described how some families with children were now paying cheaper fares.

"There are no extra fees in terms of excess baggage or anything - it is just a kilo is a kilo is a kilo," he said.

Air Samoa's rates range from $1 (65p) to around $4.16 per kilogram. Passengers pay for the combined weight of themselves and their baggage.
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And on what date was this story first posted?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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BBC says ‟2 April 2013 Last updated at 13:28”. Though your point is well made.
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Some US airlines have been charging obese people double for some time, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ckets.html
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On eating to excess. Do watch the videos. Do not repeat the stupidity.

Edit: maybe the previous story was less silly. A bit less.
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Time, in an article entitled [url=http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/06/13/beer-bellies-are-a-myth/]Beer Bellies Are a Myth[/url], wrote:According to University of California Davis food science professor Charles Bamforth, the colloquial notion of the beer belly that beer somehow uniquely targets the gut ”“ doesn’t jibe with medical science.

‟The beer belly is a complete myth. The main source of calories in any alcoholic beverage is alcohol,” Bamforth told Popular Science. ‟There’s nothing magical about the alcohol in beer, it’s just alcohol.”

Alcohol doesn’t have V.I.P. dibs on abdominal fat in other words (any more than spot exercises like sit-ups burn stomach chub), it’s just another ingredient in your caloric regimen,
The article meant, of course, ‘masculine and prosperous physique’.
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Eat right, don't drink, don't smoke, get plenty of sleep and you will be assured health when you die.
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I was in a pharmacy, and saw, peeking out from some other leaflets, this:
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Well, I wasn’t, but I might later. What are you suggesting?
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Hmm, lager. And then the logo noticed, Enthusiasm diminishing. Let’s look on the other side.

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Oh dear.
• Enough nanny state. (For the benefit of our non-NY American cousins, less accustomed to a nanny state, low scores are probably intended to be better. And 13+ would definitely be unlucky.)
• Did they think this through? If a man drinks four times a week (Fri, Sat, Mon and Wed), and each time has 1½ pints of session ale, most doctors would call that functionally teetotal. But this pamphlet thinks that is 4 + 1 = 5 points, and so he is ‟likely to be at risk of alcohol-related harm”. Likely? Likely! Utter rubbish. End result: diminishment of credibility of message. Sigh.
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But I believe that you have missed the obvious good news. According to our Nanny state, drinking beer, cider, sprits, wine, aperitifs or sherry is potentially harmful. Note that Port is therefore not harmful (with the possible exception of White Port when drunk as an aperitif). Clearly this means that Port is good for you otherwise our caring Nanny would have warned us against the perils of Port.

So we should give up all other potentially harmful drinks and consume more Port. Happiness all round.

Do I sense a new marketing opportunity for the Port producers - "Drink more Port - the UK government doesn't say it's potentially harmful!" Well, maybe the strap line needs a bit more work, but you get the idea...
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2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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I heard, this evening, for the very first time, the formula for calculating units of alcohol in a particular measure of drink: millilitres x ABV / 1000. I had never heard this before. As I sipped my Armagh cider, I contemplated the arbitrariness of this and wondered how the system takes into account the different compounds present in different alcoholic drinks. It sounds utterly threadbare, conceptually, and I hereby disavow it.
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