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Re: Alcohol and health

Post by DRT » 23:31 Sat 30 May 2015

jdaw1 wrote:BBC: First Minister Peter Robinson blames lifestyle for heart attack.

Except that the video doesn’t mention VP, nor even alcohol. It does mention working late.
Should we move the start time of our off-lines to 16:30?
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Post by PhilW » 14:01 Mon 22 Jun 2015

The Independent, in an article titled [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-discover-how-red-wine-miracle-ingredient-resveratrol-helps-us-stay-young-9940742.html]Scientists discover how red wine 'miracle ingredient' resveratrol helps us stay young[/url] wrote:Resveratrol: The "elixir" of youth
Various studies have indicated that resveratrol may be beneficial to health by possessing anti-oxidative, anti-carcinogenic or anti-tumour properties. The full scientific name is trans-3,5,4-trihydroxystilbene and it is found in the vines, roots, seeds and stalks of vine plants, but it becomes particularly concentrated in the skins of grapes, possibly as a defence against fungal attack. Red wine typically contains more resveratrol than white wine because of the habit of leaving grape skins for longer during fermentation. Other foods that contain resveratrol include peanuts and soy.

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Re: Alcohol and health

Post by PhilW » 14:24 Mon 22 Jun 2015

Good old 'brown' fat, eh!

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Post by DRT » 08:43 Sat 11 Jul 2015

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Post by PhilW » 09:09 Sat 11 Jul 2015

DRT wrote:Posted by a friend on Facebook today...
Like :lol:

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Post by AHB » 17:36 Mon 13 Jul 2015

Will Port count as a "sugary drink"? :shock:
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Post by jdaw1 » 07:35 Fri 17 Jul 2015

The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33551501]Scientific experts: Sugar intake 'should be halved'[/url], wrote:A committee of scientific experts is expected to urge the government to halve the recommended daily intake of sugar, in final guidance on Friday.

Government advisers in England are set to recommend that no more than 5% of daily calories should come from added sugar - about seven level teaspoons.

The guidelines are in line with new World Health Organization proposals.
Presumably health-aware Port drinkers will switch from Graham to Dow.

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Post by LGTrotter » 08:37 Fri 17 Jul 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33551501]Scientific experts: Sugar intake 'should be halved'[/url], wrote:A committee of scientific experts is expected to urge the government to halve the recommended daily intake of sugar, in final guidance on Friday.

Government advisers in England are set to recommend that no more than 5% of daily calories should come from added sugar - about seven level teaspoons.

The guidelines are in line with new World Health Organization proposals.
Presumably health-aware Port drinkers will switch from Graham to Dow.
Is much refined sugar added to port?

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Post by jdaw1 » 09:05 Fri 17 Jul 2015

LGTrotter wrote:Is much refined sugar added to port?
My understanding is that the killjoys have their knickers in a twist about all sugars, not just refined.

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Post by DRT » 09:37 Fri 17 Jul 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Is much refined sugar added to port?
My understanding is that the killjoys have their knickers in a twist about all sugars, not just refined.
So presumably we should cut all fruit from our "Five-a-Day"?
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Post by jdaw1 » 10:47 Wed 19 Aug 2015

The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33975946]Cancer risk 'even from light drinking'[/url], wrote:Even light and moderate drinking - up to one drink a day for women and two drinks a day for men - could increase the risk of cancer, say researchers.

The work in the British Medical Journal looked at two large US studies involving more than 100,000 adults.

The clearest link was for breast cancer.

Experts say the findings reinforce the health message that people should limit how much they drink and have some alcohol-free days.

There is no guaranteed safe level of drinking, but if you drink within the recommended daily limits, the risks of harming your health are low, they say.

The risks
  • Alcohol is linked to an increased risk of mouth, throat, gullet, bowel, liver and breast cancer
  • Smoking and drinking together further increases cancer risk
  • All types of alcohol increase cancer risk
  • The more you drink, the higher the risk
  • Cutting down on alcohol can reduce cancer risk
The NHS recommends that men should not regularly drink more than three to four units (two cans of 4.5% lager) a day and women two to three units (two small glasses of 12% wine) a day - although these drinking guidelines are currently under review and so could change.

In the American studies, light to moderate drinking was defined as up to 15g alcohol (a small glass of wine) per day for women and up to 30g alcohol (two 355ml bottles of beer) per day for men.

For women, the researchers observed, the risk of alcohol-related cancers - mainly breast cancer - increased even after one alcoholic drink a day.

No significant link was found in men who had never smoked, but among men who were current or ex-smokers, light or moderate drinking appeared to increase the risk of certain cancers.
NB: “No significant link was found in men who had never smoked”.

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Post by djewesbury » 14:12 Wed 19 Aug 2015

That is a large loophole. But I think double coronas probably count as smoking.
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Post by jdaw1 » 21:00 Wed 19 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:That is a large loophole. But I think double coronas probably count as smoking.
One or two a month is definitely not ‘smoking’.

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Post by djewesbury » 22:31 Wed 19 Aug 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:That is a large loophole. But I think double coronas probably count as smoking.
One or two a month is definitely not ‘smoking’.
One or two two-hour smokes a month is smoking.
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Post by jdaw1 » 22:49 Wed 19 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:One or two two-hour smokes a month is smoking.
A terrible and manifestly unwise precedent. Next you’ll be claiming — foolish boy — that a double-magnum, even though only one cork, counts for more than one unit of alcohol. Foolish boy

There is helpful medical precedent. The ‘five a day’ only count if different. Five apples is only one of the five. Therefore one double-magnum is only one drink. Therefore one smoke, whether great or small, is only one smoke.

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Post by jdaw1 » 12:02 Sat 29 Aug 2015

The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34072712]Drinking water doesn't prevent a hangover, study says[/url], wrote:Raiding the fridge or downing glasses of water after a night of heavy drinking won't improve your sore head the next day, Dutch research suggests.

Instead, a study concluded, the only way to prevent a hangover is to drink less alcohol.

More than 800 students were asked how they tried to relieve hangover symptoms, but neither food nor water was found to have any positive effect.
After is too late. Drink water before and during.

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Re: Alcohol and health

Post by DRT » 18:38 Sun 30 Aug 2015

jdaw1 wrote:a study concluded, the only way to prevent a hangover is to drink less alcohol.
That is quite the most stunning revelation I have ever read. Money well spent on the education of those Dutch students if you ask me :roll:
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Post by jdaw1 » 10:30 Sun 20 Sep 2015

The Sunday Times reports, in effect, that doctors say that vegetables aren’t healthy and that we shouldn’t bother.

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Re: Alcohol and health

Post by DRT » 19:47 Tue 05 Jan 2016

In [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34575975]this article[/url] the BBC wrote:The World Health Organization advises that between 30% and 35% of our calories should come from fat arguing there is "no probable or convincing evidence" that the total amount of fat in our diet is altering the risk of cancer or cardiovascular disease.
I might have an extra sausage with breakfast tomorrow :D
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Re: Alcohol and health

Post by LGTrotter » 00:26 Wed 06 Jan 2016

I was hoping for a comment on the much trailed new alcohol limits for men, supposedly being reduced in line with the limit for women, ie 21 units a week with 2 days off a week to boot. I am sure that we can all respect that.

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