Alcohol and health

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jdaw1 wrote:
The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29616418]Michael Mosley: Should people be eating more fat?[/url], wrote:Contrary to conventional advice, eating more of some fats may be good for our health, says Michael Mosley.

It really is the sort of news that made me want to weep into my skinny cappuccino and then pour it down the sink. After years of being told, and telling others, that saturated fat clogs your arteries and makes you fat, there is now mounting evidence that eating some saturated fats may actually help you lose weight and be good for the heart.

Earlier this year, for example, a systematic review, funded by the British Heart Foundation and with the rather dry title "Association of dietary, circulating and supplement fatty acids with coronary risk" caused a stir.

Scientists from Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard, amongst others, examined the links between eating saturated fat and heart disease. Despite looking at the results of nearly 80 studies involving more than a half million people they were unable to find convincing evidence that eating saturated fats leads to greater risk of heart disease.

In fact, when they looked at blood results, they found that higher levels of some saturated fats, in particular a type of saturated fat you get in milk and dairy products called margaric acid, were associated with a lower risk of heart disease.

Although there were critics, NHS Choices described this as "an impressively detailed and extensive piece of research, which is likely to prompt further study".

Some academics queried the paper, others worried that this sort of research would confuse people and the message they would get would not be "it's OK to eat more of some forms of fat" but that "it's OK to eat lots more saturated fat, even if it is in pies". We know that current levels of obesity have been fuelled, at least in part, by snacks like muffins, crisps and cakes, all high in fat, sugar and calories.
Lots more saturated fat as found in pies: yum yum yum. Thunderbirds Are Go!
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"blah blah blah it's OK to eat lots ... pies blah blah blah"
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I don't think that any of us are on very firm ground on this one.
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djewesbury wrote:I don't think that any of us are on very firm ground on this one.
I am. I can't remember the last time I ate a doughnut.
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Doughnuts are overrated.
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About once every 5 years I make some doughnuts. Home-made doughnuts are absolutely delicious. I fry them in coconut oil and inject them with raspberry jam.

Given the number of doughnuts I make in a session and the number of people who magically appear when I cook doughnuts, I average eating 1 doughnut every 5 years or so. Slightly fewer than the number of glasses of red wine I drink in a five year period.

However, given the recent health advice I clearly need to cook the next batch of doughnuts in butter and inject them with red wine.
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"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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A new study on middle-class drinking, looking at alcohol use as status symbol. If anyone would like to read it please PM me.
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jdaw1 wrote:
+1
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the BBC’s [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30500372]Booze calculator: What's your drinking nationality?[/url] wrote:But your closest match on overall consumption alone is Belarus, the heaviest-drinking country in the world.
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djewesbury wrote:
the BBC’s [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30500372]Booze calculator: What's your drinking nationality?[/url] wrote:But your closest match on overall consumption alone is Belarus, the heaviest-drinking country in the world.
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djewesbury wrote:
the BBC’s [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30500372]Booze calculator: What's your drinking nationality?[/url] wrote:But your closest match on overall consumption alone is Belarus, the heaviest-drinking country in the world.
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No. I got the same first line as you. Did you read beyond that?
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I thought it rather unsporting of Auntie to make us calculate our drinking from last week. Most people drink more than usual the week before Christmas.

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djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
the BBC’s [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30500372]Booze calculator: What's your drinking nationality?[/url] wrote:But your closest match on overall consumption alone is Belarus, the heaviest-drinking country in the world.
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No. I got the same first line as you. Did you read beyond that?
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The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30599341]Vodka prices: Putin calls for cap amid economic crisis[/url], wrote:Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his government to curb rising vodka prices.

Mr Putin, who has been hit by increasing economic woes, said that high prices encouraged the consumption of illegal and possibly unsafe alcohol.
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From the Independant "A bottle of wine a day is not bad for you and abstaining is worse than drinking, scientist claims "
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 71010.html
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I suddenly developed tinnitus today. It's quite disorientating. A noise at the other end of the house sounds deafeningly loud, there's a constant auditory illusion of a radio being on, and in my right ear (down to about 5% hearing) a high pitched constant whine. All sound has lost spatial perspective and become jarring.
What I want to know is, which port is most likely to cure this condition?
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djewesbury wrote:I suddenly developed tinnitus today. It's quite disorientating. A noise at the other end of the house sounds deafeningly loud, there's a constant auditory illusion of a radio being on, and in my right ear (down to about 5% hearing) a high pitched constant whine. All sound has lost spatial perspective and become jarring.
What I want to know is, which port is most likely to cure this condition?
I'm sorry to hear that.
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:lol: That was pretty quick André! I must seek out a bottle of this!
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djewesbury wrote::lol: That was pretty quick André! I must seek out a bottle of this!
I hope it works. :)
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If it tastes horrible I can just warm it up and pour it in my ear. :shock:
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You know, medicine is not supposed to taste nice, young man!
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Should we lock this thread now that we have the correct answer?
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